Stranger of Sword City has been rated for PC and Vita by ESRB

MUnited83

For you.
I know - they should have offered moe versions of the enemies as well. Perhaps turning them all into monster girls would fit the aesthetic?

At least that would be consistent and it wouldn't give this weird effect of the characters not belong on this game at all lol
 

Falk

that puzzling face
I know - they should have offered moe versions of the enemies as well. Perhaps turning them all into monster girls would fit the aesthetic?

Considering the trends today it'd sell like hot cakes.

OH WELL WORST CASE IT'S ON PC SO IT'S MODDABLE ANYWAY RIGHT? HYUK HYUK.
 
Backgrounds and monsters having more serious designs than party members actually isn't something that's unique to this game, it happens in DRPGs

This is the default style of Demon Gaze for example. It blends a bit better, but it's similar to the situation here. And guess what, Demon Gaze was super successful, so they're adding it to SoSC.

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The only thing the new art will do is expand the potential audience and everyone should be happy about that.
 
Doesn't make any sense. I thought Japanese are the ones who are obsessed with all things animu and moe, while western players prefer more realistic and mature design.

You'll have to blame NISA for adding the moe artstyle. It sucks, but at least the original is in and that's what matters.
 

Falk

that puzzling face
This is the default style of Demon Gaze for example. It blends a bit better, but it's similar to the situation here. And guess what, Demon Gaze was super successful, so they're adding it to SoSC.

It's nothing new - even Final Fantasy 1 through 6 had wildly different styles for party members vs monsters
(not talkiing about FFVI iOS either)
although mainly due to technical limitations.

I think what's jarring is the fact that we went from something that worked to something that worked a little less. Would have been awesome if those two images were swapped around and unlabelled just to see if there was objectivity bias in the next few replies, all which prefer the original.
 
The Vita and Xbox one versions at least will let you switch between two styles

Original
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and anime
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The art style in the first image shits all over the other one from a great height. That revision shouldn't even exist, it's an insult to whoever the artist was that designed the original art.
 
Yeah that's certainly not hyperbolic or anything

Hey I'm sure you can mod that option out of the PC version if it offends you so much
 

Dark_castle

Junior Member
Maybe they went with a 'safe bet' on how the English speaking world assumes Japanese media looks like

(It's hilarious because kind-of the opposite happened with Star Ocean with anime -> 3D renders and the new set of portraits were horrendous. Localization can never win this one)

I think for the case of Star Ocean 4, the 3D models just don't look good, whether if it's in menu as portraits or in real-time. This game however has an unique art style that is seemingly hand painted to give it depths, mimicking the 3D rendering without actually being 3D. It looks really good. The anime art style can burn in hell.

Actually, the anime version of this game is not so bad, but it so pales in comparison to the original.

Edit: Never mind I take it back. The shiny spots on the pervy female body parts is atrocious.
 

pa22word

Member
yeah...

I really should stop coming into threads where there's a vita version of something announced. They just keep getting weirder all the time. I mean for instance I really could have gone today without knowing the specifics of what "shiny bodies" objectification means in the context of moe anime.
 
yeah...

I really should stop coming into threads where there's a vita version of something announced. They just keep getting weirder all the time. I mean for instance I really could have gone today without knowing the specifics of what "shiny bodies" objectification means in the context of moe anime.

which has nothing to do with the Vita version of the game
 

MUnited83

For you.
Backgrounds and monsters having more serious designs than party members actually isn't something that's unique to this game, it happens in DRPGs

This is the default style of Demon Gaze for example. It blends a bit better, but it's similar to the situation here. And guess what, Demon Gaze was super successful, so they're adding it to SoSC.

195960-GBAtemp_Demon_Gaze_Review_Battle_Interactions.jpg


The only thing the new art will do is expand the potential audience and everyone should be happy about that.

Eh, I don't think Demon Gaze is a good example, it is a lot more tonally consistent than this new style for Stranger is.
 

pa22word

Member
which has nothing to do with the Vita version of the game

Let's please not pretend that the vita hasn't had its lion share of releases these days end up being a possible picture reference for that particular definition in the anime fans' dictionary.
 
The original art style is awesome and grabbed my attention and made me care about this game even though the genre is stale AF. The new art style is generic yuck.

yeah...

I really should stop coming into threads where there's a vita version of something announced. They just keep getting weirder all the time. I mean for instance I really could have gone today without knowing the specifics of what "shiny bodies" objectification means in the context of moe anime.

Ironically, the original Vita version in Japan only had the original art. The new style was introduced for the Xbox version.

And let's not pretend that PC isn't where the real pervy shit is. Even the deep otaku stuff on Vita is super-tame by comparison.
 

Corpekata

Banned
Somehow it'll end up being that the western PC version will just be the animu art style, despite the fact the original PC version exists. Just because there has to be something glaringly wrong with a Japanese PC release.
 
Let's please not pretend that the vita hasn't had its lion share of releases these days end up being a possible picture reference for that particular definition in the anime fans' dictionary.

Let's please admit when one has made a mistake and should read a thread before posting.
 

Falk

that puzzling face
You know, I was going to joke that the only thing missing from the generic anime version was an ahoge, because you know it's truly crossed the threshold when there's ahoge. I was going to add one in in MSpaint.

Turns out there already is. Just really hard to see

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I can't stop laughing.
 

pa22word

Member
Let's please accept when one has made a mistake and should read a thread before posting.

Nah, I read the entire thread before posting. My post still stands as it is.

The fact that they changed the art style just to make it look like that is honestly pretty puke worthy in and of itself.
 
Eh, I don't think Demon Gaze is a good example, it is a lot more tonally consistent than this new style for Stranger is.
DG characters


DG monsters and backgrounds

It's a very similar situation
Let's please not pretend that the vita hasn't had its lion share of releases these days end up being a possible picture reference for that particular definition in the anime fans' dictionary.
Which still has nothing to do with this thread or this game

You know, I was going to joke that the only thing missing from the generic anime version was an ahoge, because you know it's truly crossed the threshold when there's ahoge. I was going to add one in in MSpaint.

Turns out there already is. Just really hard to see

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I can't stop laughing.

kawaii af
 
Nah, I read the entire thread before posting. My post still stands as it is.

The fact that they changed the art style just to make it look like that is honestly pretty puke worthy in and of itself.

*facepalm*

That only happened for the US audience because NISA told them that the moe/anime artstyle sells more in the West.

I suppose they wanted to grab their Neptunia audience or something, but your blame is misguided.
 

pa22word

Member
Which still has nothing to do with this thread

Your post and that artwork says otherwise.

Usually anytime I click on a game that has a vita version I end up seeing a bunch of gross artwork and the creepier side of the anime universe come out of the woodwork for a bit. I'm not exactly the first person to make the observation, either.


I already told you I read the thread, but thanks for giving me a summation anyways. In return, I'll tell you again: my post still stands as it was when I posted it.
 

Prelude.

Member
Read this before you drive-by shitpost:
The game came out originally on 360 and PC, then it was ported to Vita and lastly to Xbone.
The new offensive artstyle was made specifically for the Xbone version but will be a selectable option in the localized Vita version.
It's physical on Vita and digital only on anything else.

Let's please not pretend that the vita hasn't had its lion share of releases these days end up being a possible picture reference for that particular definition in the anime fans' dictionary.
For meme purposes on western forums, sure. If you actually knew more about this matter instead of basing your opinion on "eew this game is shameful and should be banned" articles you'd realize it's always been like that on most japanese consoles.
Still not relevant to this thread, though.
 

SparkTR

Member
This is what gets me about the Vita stereotyping

PC has games that are about 1000% worse, and a lot more than Vita as well

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's mainly because they rarely come to the west and there's almost zero demand for them to come over from gamers here.
 
Usually anytime I click on a game that has a vita version I end up seeing a bunch of gross artwork and the creepier side of the anime universe come out of the woodwork for a bit. I'm not exactly the first person to make the observation, either.

Ah it's one of those threads

I guess I'm out
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's mainly because they rarely come to the west and there's almost zero demand for them to come over from gamers here.

They're just not sold on consoles or on big PC storefronts. Fan-translations are a thing and sites specialized in eroge sell tons of stuff in english. You just wont see it talked about on GAF for obvious reasons.
 

pa22word

Member
Why is the vita getting blamed for the pervy Xbox One version? That's the wests fault.

I'm not placing blame on the vita, just making a casual observation that it seems like anytime I click on a vita thread I get bombarded with the stuff and I'm honestly just kinda tired of it.

Now, if most XBone or PC game announcement thread had the same issue I'd be making similar posts in threads about those machines, but they don't, so the comparison is more than a little daft.
 

yaffi

Member
I'm not placing blame on the vita, just making a casual observation that it seems like anytime I click on a vita thread I get bombarded with the stuff and I'm honestly just kinda tired of it.

Now, if most XBone or PC game announcement thread had the same issue I'd be making similar posts in threads about those machines, but they don't, so the comparison is more than a little daft.

You mean if the Vita hadn't been mentioned in the title you wouldn't've come in to make a dumb comment?
 

Falk

that puzzling face
I'm not placing blame on the vita, just making a casual observation that it seems like anytime I click on a vita thread I get bombarded with the stuff and I'm honestly just kinda tired of it.

For someone tired of Vita threads you sure like posting in this Vita thread.

!:D
 

Prelude.

Member
Now, if most XBone or PC game announcement thread had the same issue I'd be making similar posts in threads about those machines, but they don't, so the comparison is more than a little daft.
The Xbone doesn't get games from Japan and pc only gets ports so how would that be possible?
 

pa22word

Member
For someone tired of Vita threads you sure like posting in this Vita thread.

!:D

I've owned a vita since launch and have been clicking on game announcements for the thing ever since then, and this one was just the exasperation point for me after clicking on scores of them. The one where I clicked on it, read through it, and kinda thought to myself: "well, did you really expect otherwise? really?"

*shrug*
 

Prelude.

Member
I've owned a vita since launch and have been clicking on game announcements for the thing ever since then, and this one was just the exasperation point for me after clicking on scores of them. The one where I clicked on it, read through it, and kinda thought to myself: "well, did you really expect otherwise? really?"

*shrug*
So what's the problem? Use the default art style and not the Xbone one, it's pretty simple.
If you ever cared about actually playing the game, that is.
 
I've owned a vita since launch and have been clicking on game announcements for the thing ever since then, and this one was just the exasperation point for me after clicking on scores of them. The one where I clicked on it, read through it, and kinda thought to myself: "well, did you really expect otherwise? really?"

*shrug*

You should probably choose a Senran Kagura thread next time or something. At least it wouldn't be entirely off-topic, like it is here.
I'm assuming that's the same character from HP/MP numbers. If I'm mistaken, I apologize.

It's okay, no one cares about facts in this thread,
 

Falk

that puzzling face
I've owned a vita since launch and have been clicking on game announcements for the thing ever since then, and this one was just the exasperation point for me after clicking on scores of them. The one where I clicked on it, read through it, and kinda thought to myself: "well, did you really expect otherwise? really?"

*shrug*

Eighteen (nineteen incl. this one) out of 43 posts on this page are either you or someone responding to you, over a comment that you could have just left well alone after the first time you posted it, or even better yet just not posted in the first place.

It's a tired, worn argument that you could just very well have posted in any other Vita thread that actually had to do with your unrelated issue with the perception of Vita as a platform.

As pointed out multiple times, this really doesn't apply to Stranger of Sword City since 1) the art originally was different 2) it was changed for the west, as opposed to being changed specifically for a platform.

In other words, almost 45% of this page is dedicated to you pressing an unrelated non-point. As opposed to laughing at questionable localization decisions, while not exactly the pinnacle of human discourse, at least has to do with the topic. And also which is largely a non-issue as the art styles will presumably be swappable anyway.

Congrats, I guess?
 

cj_iwakura

Member
The new art style is the worst idea ever, and it saddens me they think it's necessary to sell the game. They went from Tale of the Forsaken Land to Dungeon Travelers 2.
 

pa22word

Member
Eighteen (nineteen incl. this one) out of 43 posts on this page are either you or someone responding to you, over a comment that you could have just left well alone after the first time you posted it, or even better yet just not posted in the first place.

As you point out later in your post the entire thread before my "massive derail post" was laughing about the changed art anyways. What exactly did I derail? Move the topic of conversion from laughing about the artstyle to me commenting that this type of crap seems common in vita game announcements?

Where exactly did the derail occur, again? Seems to me like this thread was off the tracks about 10 mins after it was made.

As pointed out multiple times, this really doesn't apply to Stranger of Sword City since 1) the art originally was different 2) it was changed for the west, as opposed to being changed specifically for a platform.

Well that would make a pretty good point if I was talking about the game in a vacuum, but I'm not.
 

yaffi

Member
If I'm not mistaken you can put custom character portraits in the game (at least in the pc version):

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Yeah that's certainly not hyperbolic or anything

Hey I'm sure you can mod that option out of the PC version if it offends you so much

I don't think it's hyperbolic at all. You've got this beautiful, distinctive art that really gives the game its own identity, and then it's undermined by a revision that is the worst kind of generic, otaku-pandering trash they could've settled with. Yeah you have the option, but it's the principal of it that matters.

And it won't be the PC version I'm playing anyway.
 
I don't think it's hyperbolic at all. You've got this beautiful, distinctive art that really gives the game its own identity, and then it's undermined by a revision that is the worst kind of generic, otaku-pandering trash they could've settled with. Yeah you have the option, but it's the principal of it that matters.

And it won't be the PC version I'm playing anyway.

You don't like it so it shouldn't exist. Yes that's a very reasonable opinion to have.

you people need some perspective
 
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