Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

R. Mika art by Bengus

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This is dope. I wish we could get this image without the "SAMPLE" text.
 
We wouldn't be making separate IDs for CFN if it weren't for making playing with other platforms with different account systems simple, not a chance Capcom will drop the ball on that.
 

not disappointed at all - sounds like they're focusing on the stuff i like instead of anime

We wouldn't be making separate IDs for CFN if it weren't for making playing with other platforms with different account systems simple, not a chance Capcom will drop the ball on that.

you know im gonna be up at 3 am on launch getting my ID registered lol
 

Sounds like it will be piecemeal over the life of the game. I'm fine with that, especially if it's bits of story as characters are released to give the characters some more background. That's all I need personally.

It's not like I ever played MK's story mode more than once.

I don't know how well it would sit with the casual market if it's not front-loaded.
 
Yoshinori Ono: "With Street Fighter V, we’ll be focusing more on the fighting game side of things and we have a different art style this time around, so we hope you like what we have for players with this new iteration of Street Fighter."



There is no excuse for not knowing what players want. We live in the internet age. Test the waters and see what social media is saying about your product. I respect Bengus and his art. But we didn't want animation and we didn't want hand drawn stills.

I really don't care at this point just hurry up and help fund Street Fighter World Warriors by Joey Ansah and company.
 
Looking back at the negativity from the past few pages, I can't help but scoff at the notion that F.A.N.G is one of the absolute worst characters the Street Fighter series as a whole has known. Yet somehow:


  • Charlie, R. Mika and Birdie (now even more repulsive thanks to their V redesigns!)
  • schoolgirls (one being a bum-worshipping underaged groupie and the other having macaroni hair)
  • an American japanophile in tacky samurai armor
  • the IV newcomers
  • SFEX designs like Skullomania, Area or Blair Dame
  • Oro / Twelve / Necro
  • Bison's female split personality with a magical scarf
  • the holy trinity of Capcom USA's awesome creative input for SF II (DeeJay, T. Hawk and Cammy)
and so forth don't come to mind? That's a load of malarkey right there.
 
Looking back at the negativity from the past few pages, I can't help but scoff at the notion that F.A.N.G is one of the absolute worst characters the Street Fighter series as a whole has known. Yet somehow:

[*]the IV newcomers

and so forth don't come to mind? That's a load of malarkey right there.

SF V has the best newcomers since ST, imo. SFIV the worst:

Hakan, Seth, Rufus are real bad
Decapre & Abel are dull
El Fuerte & C. Viper are pretty well-designed and thematically appropriate for SF

Juri is fine, but her concept art was legit great:
 
Looking back at the negativity from the past few pages, I can't help but scoff at the notion that F.A.N.G is one of the absolute worst characters the Street Fighter series as a whole has known. Yet somehow:


  • Charlie, R. Mika and Birdie (now even more repulsive thanks to their V redesigns!)
  • schoolgirls (one being a bum-worshipping underaged groupie and the other having macaroni hair)
  • an American japanophile in tacky samurai armor
  • the IV newcomers
  • SFEX designs like Skullomania, Area or Blair Dame
  • Oro / Twelve / Necro
  • Bison's female split personality with a magical scarf
  • the holy trinity of Capcom USA's awesome creative input for SF II (DeeJay, T. Hawk and Cammy)
and so forth don't come to mind? That's a load of malarkey right there.

everything apart from deejay preach
 
Looking back at the negativity from the past few pages, I can't help but scoff at the notion that F.A.N.G is one of the absolute worst characters the Street Fighter series as a whole has known. Yet somehow:


  • Charlie, R. Mika and Birdie (now even more repulsive thanks to their V redesigns!)
  • schoolgirls (one being a bum-worshipping underaged groupie and the other having macaroni hair)
  • an American japanophile in tacky samurai armor
  • the IV newcomers
  • SFEX designs like Skullomania, Area or Blair Dame
  • Oro / Twelve / Necro
  • Bison's female split personality with a magical scarf
  • the holy trinity of Capcom USA's awesome creative input for SF II (DeeJay, T. Hawk and Cammy)
and so forth don't come to mind? That's a load of malarkey right there.

All of which are infinitely superior designs than Fang, you can add all the negative subtexts to every character you don't like, but that doesn't stop a large group of people thinking he's a turd of a design. Except for Deejay, that one is just incredibly racist.
 
[*]Bison's female split personality with a magical scarf
[*]the holy trinity of Capcom USA's awesome creative input for SF II (DeeJay, T. Hawk and Cammy)[/list]
and so forth don't come to mind? That's a load of malarkey right there.
Rose, Cammy, and Dee-Jay are awesome.
 
Looking back at the negativity from the past few pages, I can't help but scoff at the notion that F.A.N.G is one of the absolute worst characters the Street Fighter series as a whole has known. Yet somehow:


  • Charlie, R. Mika and Birdie (now even more repulsive thanks to their V redesigns!)
  • schoolgirls (one being a bum-worshipping underaged groupie and the other having macaroni hair)
  • an American japanophile in tacky samurai armor
  • the IV newcomers
  • SFEX designs like Skullomania, Area or Blair Dame
  • Oro / Twelve / Necro
  • Bison's female split personality with a magical scarf
  • the holy trinity of Capcom USA's awesome creative input for SF II (DeeJay, T. Hawk and Cammy)
and so forth don't come to mind? That's a load of malarkey right there.

To even suggest that someone like Charlie is a worse design than F.A.N.G is utterly fucking laughable.
 
Y'all got to get off of my boy Nash, just because y'all can't emulate his hairstyle in real life.

I always liked his design, and its damn good seeing him back.

I'm just not feeling Fraken-Nash though. An original alt skin won't change that because he still fights like a zombiefied version.

His fighting stance looking like he's ready to pass out at any moment, coughing when he wins the fight...an original alt skin won't change that!

Sigh, if Cody makes it in my real main will be back!

V-trigger Knife is all I can think about.
 
There is no excuse for not knowing what players want. We live in the internet age. Test the waters and see what social media is saying about your product. I respect Bengus and his art. But we didn't want animation and we didn't want hand drawn stills.

Who is this "we" you're talking about? You're mistaking "we" with "you".

I wouldn't be opposed to animation or drawn stills at all.

I just want it to be good and interesting.

Not everyone wants EVERY fighting game from now on to copy MKX B-movie style of story telling.


All of which are infinitely superior designs than Fang, you can add all the negative subtexts to every character you don't like, but that doesn't stop a large group of people thinking he's a turd of a design. Except for Deejay, that one is just incredibly racist.

You can find a "large group of people" who think anything on this planet.

Doesn't make them right. Doesn't make them the majority. Doesn't mean they should be listened to in any way shape or form.
 
There is no excuse for not knowing what players want. We live in the internet age. Test the waters and see what social media is saying about your product. I respect Bengus and his art. But we didn't want animation and we didn't want hand drawn stills.

I really don't care at this point just hurry up and help fund Street Fighter World Warriors by Joey Ansah and company.

But that's exactly what I wanted. It's a series associated with amazing illustrations, why would I want mediocre cg?
 
SF is mostly a mishmash of character designs stolen from kung fu flicks, western pop culture and shounen manga. FANG is just One Piece entering Capcom's plagiarism repertoire.
 
There is no excuse for not knowing what players want. We live in the internet age. Test the waters and see what social media is saying about your product. I respect Bengus and his art. But we didn't want animation and we didn't want hand drawn stills.

1) Don't say "we" as if you know what I want. That's highly presumptuous. Maybe it's something not to your taste, but don't lump me into it.

2) As long as they don't do a halfassed job, I'm cool with it.
 

Everyone should have seen this coming just due to their development schedule, there was no time to even do intro anime intros or a full fledged cutscene story mode. The best you'll get is some stills if that. I would say you get an intro still and an ending still. People will go nuts when the game comes out, but im just glad they focused on making the gameplay good.
 
SF V has the best newcomers since ST, imo. SFIV the worst:

Hakan, Seth, Rufus are real bad
Decapre & Abel are dull
El Fuerte & C. Viper are pretty well-designed and thematically appropriate for SF

Juri is fine, but her concept art was legit great:
C. Viper's design was the least offensive, but El Fuerte's was just visually drab (with a goofy name) when comparing him to other new luchadore characters like VF5's. Agreed on Juri having better concept art (multiple even) than her finalized look. Hakan would've been good if they removed the teal barnacle hair and made his red skin less vibrant.

everything apart from deejay preach
DeeJay is irredeemable.

To even suggest that someone like Charlie is a worse design than F.A.N.G is utterly fucking laughable.
Sleeveless bomber jacket (plus no shirt) with built-in shoulder pads in Alpha, that dorky haircut and no socks to go with his shoes. Never mind those clashing colors. Made all the more gaudy with those stitched-on Frankenstein limbs. Seems pret-ty bad to me.

All of which are infinitely superior designs than Fang, you can add all the negative subtexts to every character you don't like, but that doesn't stop a large group of people thinking he's a turd of a design. Except for Deejay, that one is just incredibly racist.
If we're honestly approving these aesthetics instead of a simplistic kung-fu trope:


then I'm at a loss of words. Never mind the likes of Sakura or Cammy (with her ridiculous legpaint camouflage) lacking even an inkling of inspiration beyond fanservice pandering, ignoring their by-the-numbers mechanics.
 
SF is mostly a mishmash of character designs stolen from kung fu flicks, western pop culture and shounen manga. FANG is just One Piece entering Capcom's plagiarism repertoire.

Now that you say that, FANG reminds me of Jango.

Though he look more lix a mix of Jango and Mercenary Tao.
 
There is no excuse for not knowing what players want. We live in the internet age. Test the waters and see what social media is saying about your product. I respect Bengus and his art. But we didn't want animation and we didn't want hand drawn stills.

I'm fine with the Bengus art and I would rather have it over MK style cutscenes. Don't make assumptions for other people.
 
So, is there any indication of whether a casual/not-that-great player will be able to "afford" the DLC characters using the in-game means, within a reasonable amount of time and effort? Or would I be better off just paying for the season pass? :/
 
Looking back at the negativity from the past few pages, I can't help but scoff at the notion that F.A.N.G is one of the absolute worst characters the Street Fighter series as a whole has known. Yet somehow:


  • Charlie, R. Mika and Birdie (now even more repulsive thanks to their V redesigns!)
  • schoolgirls (one being a bum-worshipping underaged groupie and the other having macaroni hair)
  • an American japanophile in tacky samurai armor
  • the IV newcomers
  • SFEX designs like Skullomania, Area or Blair Dame
  • Oro / Twelve / Necro
    [*]Bison's female split personality with a magical scarf
  • the holy trinity of Capcom USA's awesome creative input for SF II (DeeJay, T. Hawk and Cammy)
and so forth don't come to mind? That's a load of malarkey right there.

Really, your going to compare that hack Fang with a fighting goddess? Shiiiiiiiitttttt
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So, is there any indication of whether a casual/not-that-great player will be able to "afford" the DLC characters using the in-game means, within a reasonable amount of time and effort? Or would I be better off just paying for the season pass? :/

They have said that they're looking at the players who only play every now and then as one of the main considerations for balancing Fight Money.

We won't really know for sure till the game releases but they've said that simply playing more with different characters will grant you fight money and they'll probably have small goals every week or so which can be done to get fight money.
 
So, is there any indication of whether a casual/not-that-great player will be able to "afford" the DLC characters using the in-game means, within a reasonable amount of time and effort? Or would I be better off just paying for the season pass? :/

Capcom is not a charity, they are in this to make money. I guarantee you, regardless of how much you play, it won't be feasible to buy multiple characters with fight money. You might get 1 per year maybe.
 
Capcom is not a charity, they are in this to make money. I guarantee you, regardless of how much you play, it won't be feasible to buy multiple characters with fight money. You might get 1 per year maybe.

Lol.

Then they don't fucking sell at full price a fighting game that has 4 times less content than MKX ...

You can't ignore the competition.

They can make money off costumes dlc. Or maybe make costumes fight money too and make it a grind.
 
Street Fighter-GAF,

are there any good fightpads out for PS4? I saw a generic Hori gamepad at GS this weekend. Any good?

I really enjoyed my Mad Catz Akuma gamepad for PS3.
 
For the Costumes, I think that something similar to the current Dota 2 scheme would be good.

Make them only available by purchase for like the first 4-5 months, then also make them earnable through fight money. The people who only buy with fight money can still get and you can still get a lot of money by people purchasing it.

When costumes get older you can just make them parts of bundles or something.
 
So, is there any indication of whether a casual/not-that-great player will be able to "afford" the DLC characters using the in-game means, within a reasonable amount of time and effort? Or would I be better off just paying for the season pass? :/

You will probably have to grind it out, but only if you intend to get every character. Personally, I'm only using my fight money on characters I intend to use a lot so It will probably be less time consuming for someone like me.
 
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