My God!
Oh god lol. Amazing
MLK Day Protesters Block Traffic on the Bay Bridge
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Oh god lol. Amazing
Gordon Shumway
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My God!
UncleSporky
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On the one hand, a bankrupted bus company could cause someone to lose their job that they really need.
On the other, they just lost a job working for a bunch of racists, and why would you want to hang onto a job like that?
A Link to the Past
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Seriously, it's like people are trying to find reasons to be against BLM.
I'm not just talking the people working there, I'm also talking about people who can no longer ride the bus to and from their jobs, thereby putting them at risk of losing their jobs.
Crimson_Gold
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My God!
Fatality
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Two Americas, for real.
I don't know how we're on page 20 or so and people are STILL more upset about made up stories of hypothetical lives than the actual black people murdered by our police, housing discrimination, institutional racism, etc. with no sense of how insane that sounds. One traffic jam they weren't even in is more important to them than the oppression of every single black American. And this was all discussed on MLK day, with plenty of people trying to say MLK wouldn't do this, when we even had the movie Selma just come out last year showing that he literally did.
FunkyMunkey
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uhhhh didn't mlk give explicit warning regarding the roads the protesters were going to block ahead of time? or am i misinformed? far from a permit but a bit different from this
My God!
let's use this picture instead:
A Link to the Past
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It's Gordon
andthebeatgoeson
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uhhhh didn't mlk give explicit warning regarding the roads the protesters were going to block ahead of time? or am i misinformed? far from a permit but a bit different from this
let's use this picture instead:
Go deeper.
WeAreStarStuff
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uhhhh didn't mlk give explicit warning regarding the roads the protesters were going to block ahead of time? or am i misinformed? far from a permit but a bit different from this
let's use this picture instead:
Wow.
FunkyMunkey
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i feel ignorant now if that is from a different story? i saw it on reddit but i guess it's fake information or from a different event? i will gladly edit if so, apologies spreading false information if that is the case. it wouldn't be hard to photoshop it true
Crimson_Gold
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FF Seraphim
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Well BLM kinda lost me when they started protesting at Bernie Sander's rally. Once that happened I just couldn't take them seriously. Would of been more beneficial to protest at Clinton's or anyone else's rally. Looking at Sander's voting record, you are hushing a voice that would help minorities the most.
Gordon Shumway
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Get this: for centuries, white people have controlled where black people get to live, how they live, and where they can work. Our own police kill unarmed, innocent black people and get away with it. They even murder black children. And here's the craziest part: the majority of white people are unsympathetic to this already anyway and do nothing about it! There are thousands of other ways black lives are marginalized and erased. Even knowing all of the facts of institutional racism, America still doesn't care!
You thinking this has anything to do with getting sympathy for black lives shows just how self-absorbed and sheltered you are.
A Link to the Past
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How is that hushing, exactly? They're trying to push him to be even more proactive about the problems, and he has said some things that don't jive with their viewpoints (such as "all boats rise in a storm"). I don't think you rightly understand the point of their protests - they weren't trying to defeat Sanders. Sometimes you need to protest the one who's got your best interests in mind to try and make them "your" candidate.
freeofgreed
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If anything Bernie's support for black people increased exponentially after that protests. Far from "hushing" him.
uhhhh didn't mlk give explicit warning regarding the roads the protesters were going to block ahead of time? or am i misinformed? far from a permit but a bit different from this
let's use this picture instead:
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NoblesseOblige
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But they did protest Hillary. And Jeb if I recall.
Ziltoidia 9
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Anyone else things BLM will protest the oscars this year?
LookAtMeGo
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Can we please just have a moment of silence for those hypothetical victims of this protest. Also please show your sympathy and support for those who were late to work that day. Never forget.
Jeffolation
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Yes, show up at a Trump rally. Instead of showing up at a Sanders rally and directly impacting his campaign they could instead get beat up by the cavemen that support the fascist asshat.
UncleSporky
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This isn't the case, for me. I think all the ground has already been covered in this thread. Yes, this cause is absolutely worth protest. No, minor inconveniences are no reason to lose sympathy/respect/investment in the movement, nor are they reasons not to protest. Heck, even major inconveniences aren't reason not to protest. You can't stop what you're doing just because there's a rare chance someone might have their life negatively impacted in some way, because that risk is found everywhere.
There just seemed to be a general conclusion that there's no circumstance where someone impacted by the protest should ever feel resentment for where/how the protest occurred, and I question that. Not to state that the protest shouldn't have happened, not to imply that the actual black lives being lost matter less than the lives of those inconvenienced, not to claim that the assholes have a leg to stand on.
Just that I can't say how I would feel in that situation.
Crimson_Gold
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They went left, there's no making this right.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I get what you're saying, and I can understand that frustration, but why do you think your opinion on this matters that much? Seriously, I'm not just trying to be mean, really think about it. For activists, there have been decades of millions of people trying to tell them how to do anything while the criticizers do absolutely nothing. It's just noise. You can find letters people wrote to MLK asking him about black on black crime, or why he protests in this way instead of that, etc. It's been the same shit for decades.
Anyone can step up to do something for black lives, in any way they want. That's what people want to see. Anyone can join BLM, start their own group, or even just use Twitter to spread awareness to people who might not know. If this protest is ineffective, show everyone the better way. We can all say we care, but until we do one thing at all, ever, what weight does our opinion have in the grand scheme of liberating black people?
freeofgreed
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Lol you were saying?
Like I said before and how Seraphim has graciously exemplified. Regardless of how blm protest people will find some ridiculous reason to not support them. That's why saying this is the "wrong" way to do it is ridiculous. People will pull whatever bs reason out of their ass to shoot them down. In this case it's "hypothetical" lives lost.
andthebeatgoeson
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It's gotten to the point that Christie wishes someone would protest him.
They've shown up at most of the major dem and repub candidates rallies in some form or another though.
Giant Panda
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I had already read that MLK quote, and I disagree that it is completely true in the way you are trying to use it. I still think there are better ways to do this.
And Martin O'malley was there at the first one. Too his credit he sat down with them afterwards and talked.
You would think with all that marching Bernie did back in the day he would understand where they coming from
Cause you know he marched with MLK.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I figure it's that they're that comfortable in their daily lives. They can't imagine the world being anything but the routine order they experience every day. They can't imagine what it's like to have a black child and have to have "the talk" about police with them all the time as they grow up and to worry about what the police or the world will do to them when they're outside. They don't understand what would drive people to protest, because they've never felt that anger and helplessness before.
Also, MLK was taught to them as Black Santa instead of as the radical direct action activist he was. They have never been taught about what he actually did and how he actually lived. They never questioned that our own government assassinated him and that our FBI told him to kill himself. They either have no idea about that or don't fully understand how wild that is.
Crimson_Gold
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Kid Kamikaze10
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Seriously guys, bless us with a better way that isn't going to get totally ignored because "hey that's their (police, protesters, govt officials, etc.) problem, heh heh", and doesn't amount to "yeah, sic' em black people!".
Something that'll make people magically get up from their butts and say, "you know what? Lets do this" without it amounting to, "I need to see black people and their friends get their asses whooped on live tv, and MAYBE I'll help. But I don't want to get hurt though."
Something that'll make people magically get up from their butts and say, "you know what? Lets do this" without it amounting to, "I need to see black people and their friends get their asses whooped on live tv, and MAYBE I'll help. But I don't want to get hurt though."
Gordon Shumway
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Did he? I hadn't heard..
Kid Kamikaze10
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Martin even went on that all lives matter tip, got shat on for it, wised up, and apologized in the same discussion.
The fact that Bernie extended the issue by going on a talking point and dipping turned it into national news.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Okay, then show us. But until you do, people will continue with their imperfect protests, because this is that important to them. People aren't going to wait for their own freedom, as fucking America as a country itself will show you.
Well technically they tried to protest Hillary, they were caught by security and didn't get to the actual protest part, but that's just as a detail.
I think we can all agree that BLM had on long term a positive effect for Bernie and his campaign.
EdibleKnife
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You'll forgive me if I defer to the fact that MLK and those of his time lived and died practicing multiple ways of attempting to make sure that we wouldn't have to look for even more ways to ask for the exact same thing in 2016. Hell, people of this time are still looking and practicing different varieties of protest but people on the ground don't have the luxury of continuing his research until they find the perfect method to reach everyone in the least confrontational way. They need eyes and ears right now and if they have to turn people off to turn some others on, so be it.
Yaphett Kotto
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Lmao, 22 pages of tone policing. Not even surprised.
Oh, so you just don't know what the word peaceful means. Got it.
For a good while he was stuck on "Jobs and a fair wage" tip when asked about race issues
And before Bernie supporters clap back, ain't no cop ever asked for your resume and w2 form when they emptying a clip in folks.
Such as?
Ziltoidia 9
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Modern day politics, unfortunately.
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