2016+ Gaming Laptop Thread: Embracing Pascal's Wafer (Please Read OP)

What's a good gaming laptop that could run new games on high settings at 60 fps?
I think you'll be wanting something with a 965M* at the least, 970M ideally, 980M if you want the bees knees.

965M benchmarks: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-965M.134120.0.html

970M benchmarks: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-970M.126694.0.html

* Be aware that a new revision of the 965M is out, which on paper brings a 20% performance bump over the old version. (The benchmarks above are for the old version). The new version may be referred to as the "GR" version or the 965M Ti. If the seller isn't specifying the version, it's probably the old one and there's no sense buying that. So you need to be very sure of what is being advertised. Here's an example of a seller referring to the new version by both names:

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And then: http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b186/Metabox-Alpha-N150RF-Laptop

What's your budget?
 
The Clevo will have the better screen, and that's what would sway me in that direction. Dell cheaped out on their IPS, resulting in the color reproduction being pretty bland.

Cheers, I'm still swaying between the two as I've just found the dell with 16gb of ram and the i7 for only £10 more....
 
I think you'll be wanting something with a 965M* at the least, 970M ideally, 980M if you want the bees knees.

965M benchmarks: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-965M.134120.0.html

970M benchmarks: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-970M.126694.0.html

* Be aware that a new revision of the 965M is out, which on paper brings a 20% performance bump over the old version. (The benchmarks above are for the old version). The new version may be referred to as the "GR" version or the 965M Ti. If the seller isn't specifying the version, it's probably the old one and there's no sense buying that. So you need to be very sure of what is being advertised. Here's an example of a seller referring to the new version by both names:

MKIftr2.png


And then: http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b186/Metabox-Alpha-N150RF-Laptop

What's your budget?
Thanks for the info. I want to get something for my brother so that he doesn't bother me lol. Which GPU is the 980m comparable to?
 
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NEW NVIDIA GPUs COMING IN Q2!!!!!

GTX 970MX and GTX 980MX

970MX = 1408 cores, 941Mhz, 192-bit, 3 or 6GB GDRR5

980MX = 1664 cores, 1048MHz, 256-bit, 4 or 8GB GDDR5

For comparison, the 970M has 1280 cores, the 980M has 1536 cores

980MX has same core count as desktop GTX 970

Have there been any reports of a bad batch of hard drive controllers recently? Myself and my roommate both had identical issues recently with drive controllers for our main boot SSDs, despite the fact that the laptops are about as different in terms of models as they can be (a new Mac vs. an MSI). Both were bought and failed under such hilariously similar timeframes that it's hard to imagine it being a coincidence.

They're both still under warranty and I've got RMA service, of course, but if this is a case of an entire bad batch of disk controllers on SSDs I might want to have them replace the drives with a different model.

If they aren't the same SSD brand, I see no connection.

http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gamin...!/dir=asc&limit=100&no_cache=true&order=price

Which of the laptops around the $1300 range would YOU personally get?

NP8677 or NP8657
 
breaking_news.gif~original


NEW NVIDIA GPUs COMING IN Q2!!!!!

GTX 970MX and GTX 980MX

970MX = 1408 cores, 941Mhz, 192-bit, 3 or 6GB GDRR5

980MX = 1664 cores, 1048MHz, 256-bit, 4 or 8GB GDDR5

For comparison, the 970M has 1280 cores, the 980M has 1536 cores

980MX has same core count as desktop GTX 970

Worth it to wait to buy a gaming laptop if I don't have one right now? Or will the changes make much of a difference (I'm clueless)
 
NEW NVIDIA GPUs COMING IN Q2!!!!!

GTX 970MX and GTX 980MX

970MX = 1408 cores, 941Mhz, 192-bit, 3 or 6GB GDRR5

980MX = 1664 cores, 1048MHz, 256-bit, 4 or 8GB GDDR5

For comparison, the 970M has 1280 cores, the 980M has 1536 cores

980MX has same core count as desktop GTX 970

Glad I waited.

I'm not looking to break the bank this time. So I was looking at the 965m (updated) and the 970m.

Now if only I could sell my Sager P170EM
 
Worth waiting for, hmm, it's hard to say. If these MX cards are Q2, what does that mean for Pacal? I mean, if the MX launch in between May/June, and Pascal is slated for say... September/October, should you then wait for that? How much waiting is enough?

Pascal is a game changer, I say this with no doubt. But when? An x70M Pascal will likely slaughter the GTX 980M, if not more.

If I was shopping right now, without an older gaming laptop to fall back on, it'd be a really tough choice.

I guess I'd at least wait for the MX at this point, they aren't going to cost more than what's currently available. The 970MX will replace the 970M at the same price point, so it's free performance.

What we really need, is for Nvidia to officially reveal Pascal, release dates and all.
 
It's probably somewhere between a gtx 780 and a gtx 970 in desktop gpu land
So that's the best currently?
breaking_news.gif~original


NEW NVIDIA GPUs COMING IN Q2!!!!!

GTX 970MX and GTX 980MX

970MX = 1408 cores, 941Mhz, 192-bit, 3 or 6GB GDRR5

980MX = 1664 cores, 1048MHz, 256-bit, 4 or 8GB GDDR5

For comparison, the 970M has 1280 cores, the 980M has 1536 cores

980MX has same core count as desktop GTX 970
Not bad. But how much of a game changer is Pascal?
 
breaking_news.gif~original


NEW NVIDIA GPUs COMING IN Q2!!!!!

GTX 970MX and GTX 980MX

970MX = 1408 cores, 941Mhz, 192-bit, 3 or 6GB GDRR5

980MX = 1664 cores, 1048MHz, 256-bit, 4 or 8GB GDDR5

For comparison, the 970M has 1280 cores, the 980M has 1536 cores

980MX has same core count as desktop GTX 970

Source?
 
So that's the best currently?

Not bad. But how much of a game changer is Pascal?

Architectural shift + die shrink has always been big for Nvidia mobile chips.

The GTX 485M (Fermi) was twice as fast as anything before it. As were the GTX 680M (Kepler) and GTX 980M (Maxwell).

I expect the flagship mobile Pascal chip to easily crush 2x GTX 980M, or at least come within 10%, like the 980M did to SLI GTX 880Ms.
 

Chinese leaks, like always with mobile chips. This stuff always shows up on Notebook Review, and is accurate 95% of the time. Like the "GTX 990M" was leaked a looong time ago, but Nvidia released it as the GTX 980 instead.

Translated poorly.

I trust it as true.


I really hope my gt72 is upgradeable

MSI promised us they would be, so they better be.

If Pascal is still MXM, I don't see why we couldn't, asshole BIOS lock out being the only exception.
 
Huh weird. Is Pascal mobile expected in 2016?

It has been. I honestly don't know what this development means for mobile Pascal release dates.

What I think is going on, is that the GTX 980 is way too niche (and expensive), so the notebook OEM have asked Nvidia for something compelling they could sell to the mainstream, for the first half of 2016. After all, the GTX 980 can only fit in a small number of existing machines, and requires modifications. Plus the equipped machines run $3k+.

GTX 900M is going to be 2 years old soon, so it makes sense that they'd refresh it one last time. I've been expecting a mobile GTX 970 for a year.

Mobile Pascal has always been expected to be a late Summer '16 release, so this doesn't exactly put the release into doubt, at least not yet.

Nvidia has no technical reason to let it slip further than that.
 
Thanks. Hope you're right. Not that it will probably affect me, but I might be tempted by a slightly larger/beefier take on the Alienware Alpha with a Pascal x70m chip.
 
Not too familiar here since I just started getting into gaming laptops, but there's also laptops with desktop 980s in them. I would imagine those to have the best single gpu config now
I had no idea that was possible. Any laptops with a 980ti? Probably cost too much money lol. One question: Can I do Steam Big Picture Mode using a laptop. My brother would eat that up.
Architectural shift + die shrink has always been big for Nvidia mobile chips.

The GTX 485M (Fermi) was twice as fast as anything before it. As were the GTX 680M (Kepler) and GTX 980M (Maxwell).

I expect the flagship mobile Pascal chip to easily crush 2x GTX 980M, or at least come within 10%, like the 980M did to SLI GTX 880Ms.
So noticeable performance gains. I've been hearing rumblings for Pascal for a while now. How long does it take Nvidia to announce a new architecture?
 
I had no idea that was possible. Any laptops with a 980ti? Probably cost too much money lol. One question: Can I do Steam Big Picture Mode using a laptop. My brother would eat that up.

So noticeable performance gains. I've been hearing rumblings for Pascal for a while now. How long does it take Nvidia to announce a new architecture?

Yeah BPM is there on laptops, works the same way. Just hook up to the TV/monitor via HDM and you're set.

Nvidia puts out roadmaps years ahead. The next architecture, Volta, is already announced for 2018 release.
 
Yeah BPM is there on laptops, works the same way. Just hook up to the TV/monitor via HDM and you're set.

Nvidia puts out roadmaps years ahead. The next architecture, Volta, is already announced for 2018 release.
Broooooo fucking nice. So which laptop would you recommend for game setting on high and 60 fps?
 
Both Pascal and AMD's Polaris should bring relevant improvements for gaming laptops so i think i'll wait for that.
The 970MX looks nice though and shouldn't cost much more than the 970M
 
Any thoughts on an MSI GS60 2QE-668UK?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...tx970m-3gb-gddr5-gaming-laptop-lt-207-ms.html

Seems pretty nice to me since the Razer 14 dream is dead in the UK. Have read it can be a little noisy during games, but as long as it isn't under normal Windows use, I'm happy.

If you want to recommend an alternative, 15" is my sweet spot :)

Assume your budget is around £1400?

The GS60 looks amazing to me after watching a couple of video reviews, is there a version with the more recent skylake processors?

You can probably find it a bit cheaper somewhere that isn't overlockers.
 
Assume your budget is around £1400?

The GS60 looks amazing to me, is there a version with the more recent skylake processors?

Up to £2k really, but there doesn't seem to be much use in going too much higher on a 15".

Yeah, there's a Skylake version

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-...hq-16gb-ram-1tb-hddplus256gb-ssd-3gb-nvidia-g

1080p version: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-...6700hq-16gb-ram-1tb-hddplus128gb-ssd-3gb-gtx-

Don't know how I missed that before! The Overclockers one was the cheapest 4k version from somewhere reputable, but now I know why since all the other ones have Skylake...

Also tempting, a 14" model with USB-C.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/14-m...ghz-16gb-ddr4-256gb-ssdplus1tb-hdd-3gb-gtx-97
 
Up to £2k really, but there doesn't seem to be much use in going too much higher on a 15".

Yeah, there's a Skylake version

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-...hq-16gb-ram-1tb-hddplus256gb-ssd-3gb-nvidia-g

1080p version: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-...6700hq-16gb-ram-1tb-hddplus128gb-ssd-3gb-gtx-

Don't know how I missed that before! The Overclockers one was the cheapest 4k version from somewhere reputable, but now I know why since all the other ones have Skylake...

Also tempting, a 14" model with USB-C.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/14-m...ghz-16gb-ddr4-256gb-ssdplus1tb-hdd-3gb-gtx-97

Here is a version of the GS40 for cheaper: http://compadvance.co.uk/en/item/334601/MSI-GS40-6QE-Phantom-027UK

Not sure how reliable that site is but they also have an ebay store with good feedback.

I couldn't go over £1k or i'd have went for the GS40 or 60. I also don't fancy anything over 15.6", beyond that size just feels way too bulky to be properly mobile. I have seen a lot of 4k screens popping up but don't really see the point in them myself yet, especially on 15.6" and under laptops.

I've just bought an ASUS ROG GL552VW for £799, should arrive tomorrow with any luck!
 
Broooooo fucking nice. So which laptop would you recommend for game setting on high and 60 fps?

Well the GTX 970M is the best value, right now.

If he's in no hurry, wait for the GTX 970MX.

Wasn't the 980 in MSI's new laptop an MXM card but still not something you could upgrade an older laptop with?

Afaik, the MXM was slightly modified, or something like that. I don't even know if the 980 machines can be upgraded.

Any thoughts on an MSI GS60 2QE-668UK?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...tx970m-3gb-gddr5-gaming-laptop-lt-207-ms.html

Seems pretty nice to me since the Razer 14 dream is dead in the UK. Have read it can be a little noisy during games, but as long as it isn't under normal Windows use, I'm happy.

If you want to recommend an alternative, 15" is my sweet spot :)

GS60 is nice, but I personally feel that the 4K should be skipped, unless you actually have some work that requires it. You can't game at 4K with a 970M, and even an UHD screen looks like crap when you run it at 1080p.

Also , for that price, you could take one of these Clevos, and 16GB DDR4, GTX 980M, 1TB HDD, and 128GB SSD, and be at £1,372.00 shipped.

Isn't at thin/light, but dat performance gain.
 
Hey guys, quick question as I want to ask here before making a thread about it.

I'm looking for a great laptop that would be able to run all of the Adobe Products flawlessly as well as games very well. My budget would be $800-$1000.

The main games in question that I want to run are mostly Star Wars the Old Republic, and Cities Skylines with the ability to play other smaller games as I have a PS4 and XBONER to get me through AAAs and multiplats.

Thanks!

EDIT: Is the Lenovo Ideapad Y700 (15") Laptop good for what I want?
 
Also , for that price, you could take one of these Clevos, and 16GB DDR4, GTX 980M, 1TB HDD, and 128GB SSD, and be at £1,372.00 shipped.

Isn't at thin/light, but dat performance gain.

Looking at the user reviews, that does seem pretty hot (as in good, not thermal!). May have to go this route. It's about as thin and light as my current shitty £300 HP lappy and I'm fine with that when carrying it. 980M will tide me over until Pascal for my desktop as well as games on the train.
 
Hey guys, quick question as I want to ask here before making a thread about it.

I'm looking for a great laptop that would be able to run all of the Adobe Products flawlessly as well as games very well. My budget would be $800-$1000.

The main games in question that I want to run are mostly Star Wars the Old Republic, and Cities Skylines with the ability to play other smaller games as I have a PS4 and XBONER to get me through AAAs and multiplats.

Thanks!

EDIT: Is the Lenovo Ideapad Y700 (15") Laptop good for what I want?

The GTX 960M is a desktop GTX 750 Ti, with differing clocks, which makes it a good GPU for your needs. Digital Foundry always matches or exceeds console performance with one of those.

Looking at the user reviews, that does seem pretty hot (as in good, not thermal!). May have to go this route. It's about as thin and light as my current shitty £300 HP lappy and I'm fine with that when carrying it. 980M will tide me over until Pascal for my desktop as well as games on the train.

If you're building a Pascal desktop, I wouldn't even spend for the 980M. The stock GTX 965M would both tide you over, and save a ton of money.

The 980M is only for those who will use it as their main gaming rig, I'd go 970M max.
 
If you're building a Pascal desktop, I wouldn't even spend for the 980M. The stock GTX 965M would both tide you over, and save a ton of money.

The 980M is only for those who will use it as their main gaming rig, I'd go 970M max.

Nah, I play a lot of games on the train (with power outlets thankfully) so I may as well spring for something that will last me on that front for a good few years. It'll just be my main gaming rig at home too until I upgrade the desktop.
 
One thing I like about the gs60 is how thin and light it is. While the gs40 is lighter, I believe its slightly thicker than the gs60 (I may be wrong though. Haven't seen one personally yet).

Just go with the 1080p version if you are planning on getting the gs60. I honestly don't know why we even have 4k laptops with 960m/970m gpus when the hardware isn't enough to drive that resolution. Maybe for very old or much much simpler games?

Well I guess it could be helpful for other uses like design work but if that were the case, I would probably just get something with a nice display like the dell xps lineup.
 
Finally back into portable gaming after a long while, I'm very very glad to see the 6100 being up to par to play a lot of games, Macbooks now have everything I need from one

Integrated graphics no longer a downer, the new generations don't seem to be very big leaps tho
 
I try to decide what laptop to buy. I am between the msi gs60 and the xps 15 9550. But have some few question about the two.
For the msi gs60, I know that is a light weigth and thin gaming laptop but I how heavy and bulky it become when you include the charger, normally the charger for this type of laptop are big and heavy. The second one, how is the battery life for the laptop, I don't need a large battery life but I have read is some place that the time is less than two hours just doing thing like browse and typing with low brightness.
For the xps 15, I had read that is has a lot of problem, people report a lot things in different places, is a good idea to buy one and that problem are a rare cases or it is very common?

Thanks in advance :)
 
I try to decide what laptop to buy. I am between the msi gs60 and the xps 15 9550. But have some few question about the two.
For the msi gs60, I know that is a light weigth and thin gaming laptop but I how heavy and bulky it become when you include the charger, normally the charger for this type of laptop are big and heavy. The second one, how is the battery life for the laptop, I don't need a large battery life but I have read is some place that the time is less than two hours just doing thing like browse and typing with low brightness.
For the xps 15, I had read that is has a lot of problem, people report a lot things in different places, is a good idea to buy one and that problem are a rare cases or it is very common?

Thanks in advance :)
The weight is a non issue for me. Can't give exact numbers but I carry the laptop plus charger with me in a laptop backpack and I think I could bring it around all day without straining anything lol. As for the battery, you are unfortunately close to correct (maybe add a few more minutes) but I guess that's what you get with a gaming laptop.

The XPS 15 has a smaller frame and looks great but looking at specs, it can be heavier than the gs60 if you decide to get the larger battery. I remember reading about various issues too a month or 2 back but I am not sure if they are still valid. One thing I do know is that the battery life doesn't even come close to what dell advertises, which is some ridiculous double digit figure
 
Hi all.

I've recently sold my Rift DK2 as a) they discontinued support for optimus graphics and b) was waiting for CV1.

I cannot seem to find any concrete information beyond only laptops sporting a desktop 970/980 (they exist but look a little hefty) being supported.

Does anyone have fact, or even opinion, on whether there are any mobile cards which will be non-optimus and therefore suitable for Rift CV1?

The context is I can just about convince my other half we need a new laptop, no way I can convince her of a need for a new desktop!
 
My Metabox N150RF arrived yesterday. As hoped, they've refined things since I last purchased in 2011. The keyboard is better (as K.Jack said, it's not MSI or Alienware, but it's better) and the trackpad is a giant improvement. The lid is kinda flexible, which doesn't inspire confidence if you open/close it by grabbing one of the corners. Fine if you handle it from the middle. It wouldn't be a Clevo without a quirk or two! Overall I dig the udpated design, and how much sleeker and lighter it is than the P150. Oh and the IPS screen is dreamy.

I've decided to go hard mode on this, and make it a Linux laptop. Linux gaming isn't hard, but on newly released laptop hardware it can be. Getting it to boot into a graphical environment and run stably is proving difficult. I did have Ubuntu Gnome up and running last night, and even took Arma 3 for a test run (it performed well). Then I poked the wrong thing, and it wasn't starting Gnome when I booted up this morning. Heh. This'll be a journey.

Anyone else wrestling with Linux on a Clevo should be aware of the custom drivers in the System76 repo: http://docs.system76.com/articles/restore

I will probably track this adventure in more detail in this thread.
 
It depends on if they are thunderbolt 3.0

For example the new Aorus updated 17, 15, and 13 inch laptops have a usb type c 3.1 connector but they are not thunderbolt compliance.


https://youtu.be/OGCUT05AHT4


Also KJack here is a quick video on EVGAs laptop PC perspective did.

https://youtu.be/Em1qNxbchyU

17 inch 4k with gsync

But that Razer core looks fucking perfect.

razer-core-2.png


Only thing it's missing would be space for a 2.5 inch hard drive like the MSI and alienware solutions.
Hold on, the Alienware graphics amplifier has space for a hard drive?
 
Would like a new laptop ideally something that is quite lightweight, and does not make a lot of noise under stress when playing games. It does not need to play games at their highest res but I'd like something slightly better than the 765m I'm used to.

I live in the uk and my budget is £1000 but less would be better
 
I was looking at the new MSI Gt72s dragon with the 980 but I have a question would the pascal coming out render it obsolete?
I don't think anyone would really know without reviews and benchmarks. I honestly don't think it would make it obsolete though. The 970m/980m lineup seemed to be a big jump from past models but they still lag behind something like a non ti gtx 780 (980m might be close to equal I guess). The 980 was a pretty good jump too over the 780 so I imagine that mobile pascal would have to be a significant improvement over the 9XXm series to make that obsolete.

i know I posted about my diagonal tearing problem already, but I just can't seem to find a fix for it. Anyone else ever experience the same thing with mobile nvidia GPUs? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, it's a form of crazy diagonal tearing that affects some games when running windowed or borderless window. Here are some screenshots I took of the issue:

Life is Strange
http://abload.de/img/img_20160114_225035bqsy2.jpg

FF 13-3
http://abload.de/img/img_20160114_224455lqspa.jpg

Don't mind the lower framerates, I dropped the refresh rate to 24hz since that seems to make the problem appear more frequently (so I could take an offscreen shot easily). As you can see, some games have even bigger problems like 13-3, where you also get these weird looking horizontal blocks. Like a bad VHS copy of a movie.

Switching to integrated makes the artifacts go away so it's got to be something to do with the gpu (970m here). It also doesn't matter if I'm using the laptop screen or an external monitor. All drivers are updated and I've tried fiddling with vsync settings and nothing seems to help. This makes playing Lightning Returns tough because you can't even force true fullscreen with the game to get around the problem
Can anyone with a gsync capable laptop test to see if they have the same problem as what I'm describing here? I wonder if its related to optimus
 
Hi all.

I've recently sold my Rift DK2 as a) they discontinued support for optimus graphics and b) was waiting for CV1.

I cannot seem to find any concrete information beyond only laptops sporting a desktop 970/980 (they exist but look a little hefty) being supported.

Does anyone have fact, or even opinion, on whether there are any mobile cards which will be non-optimus and therefore suitable for Rift CV1?

The context is I can just about convince my other half we need a new laptop, no way I can convince her of a need for a new desktop!

Only non-Optimus gaming laptops are MSI GT72, Asus G752, and a few Clevos.

Would like a new laptop ideally something that is quite lightweight, and does not make a lot of noise under stress when playing games. It does not need to play games at their highest res but I'd like something slightly better than the 765m I'm used to.

I live in the uk and my budget is £1000 but less would be better

Lenovo Y50?

I was looking at the new MSI Gt72s dragon with the 980 but I have a question would the pascal coming out render it obsolete?
GPUs are obsolete when they can't run games anymore.
Can anyone with a gsync capable laptop test to see if they have the same problem as what I'm describing here? I wonder if its related to optimus
Haven't seen this issue reported about any non-Optimus laptopp.
 
Hi, my friend wants to get a Lenovo laptop/tablet-hybrid thing for university. I only know desktops so am not familiar with what's considered a good price.

She'll be using it for stats packages like SPSS and Stata. The usual pics and film functionality too. Has to be Windows 7. Large HDD space.

her friend is using this one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00TLMV2J6/

but that looks about £200 too expensive and waaaaaaaaaay underpowered.

edit:

Country where it will be purchased. UK
Maximum budget. £400. £600 at a push
Max size (can be in screen inches, dimensions, weight). No lo se. So long as its portable
Planned usage (what kind of games or specific games it must run, if heavily gaming at all). Ideally you'll point out what resolution and settings are your standard, based off of what I've laid out in the OP. No gaming. Stats packages and HD films.
Whatever else you find relevant, misc. things such as desired battery life, screen resolution, fan noise, etc. Windows 7 or ability to have it installed afterwards.
 
Is it a good idea to spend $35 extra for thermal cooling? Also, what's the difference between these two types of screens:

*15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen

*15.6” FHD 16:9 IPS LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finish w/ G-SYNC Technology (1920x1080)

The second is $80 more.
 
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