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[LukasTaves]

The Xbox as a piece of hardware isn't going to be as important in the future. Are you buying those games on your Windows 10 PC from the Xbox/Windows store (or whatever they call it)? Good, you're the customer Microsoft wants. They will want you as much as they want consumers buying stuff from the XBO.

It's not going to happen overnight, but with (potential) announcements like this and Recore every so often, it's eventually going to be the future of the Xbox brand. Xbox hardware is not valuable to Microsoft anymore.

I think it is, and I also think expanding the platform will help them drive console sales.

Because a strong digital store will mean stronger sales, which means more games, which means more sales, specially in regions where xbone isn't selling so well.

Imagine if all those Japanese Pc games coming to steam would also be released on the windows store and xbox? Of course, it would still not set the world on fire, but then Ms could get sales from either the Pc folk, or people who still want to get a console to play those games (And coming with a deal buy one get two might offset the advantages of getting the Ps4 version instead).

Of course, all that is assuming:

- Ms will try very hard to make all windows store game cross buy and cross play with xbone
- They will see the unified platform as a mean to invest even more in games, they have to become an huge publishing force getting tons of games that you can only play on their platform
- They will allow games and apps to use keyboard and mouse on xbone, so it immediately becomes 100% compatible with any game or app in the windows store, so both windows and console benefits from the union.

 

[LukasTaves]

Of course there are cases where people can´t play them on PC, but some other people will opt out of a XOne for a PC. There are two scenarios:
1-XOne exclusives only in XOne = 100% of people who want to play those games have to buy a XOne.
2-XOne "exclusives" also in Win10 = X% people will decide to upgrade their PC, Y% will buy a XOne and Z% will just get the games for their already capable PC.

As long as X+Z > 0% XOne will have less sales in scenario 2 than in scenario 1.

There are more scenarios:

3 - XOne exclusives only in XOne: People want to play said exclusives, but don't feel like buying a xbone to play them is worth, because they alredy have a ps4, a gaming Pc, or both.

4 - XOne exclusives also in Win10, but in return games coming to Win10 games not on Xbone also release on Xbone - People who would have no interest in buying a Pc but would get another console could by a Xbone because it now has platform exlcusives and more multiplat games coming.

All these could be more xbone sales, or even more win store sales, but the bottom line is, unifying the platform and strengthening it makes each device that has access to that platform stronger.

 

[RPGamer92]

Remember this?:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1094934

 

[DasTiffy]

The Witness was also rated for Xbox One and the developer said, there will be no XOne Version.

 

[Synth]

An attempt to position the WinStore as "The place to get Microsoft games" won't work if people aren't using it.

And it certainly won't work if you actively give people reasons to continue not using it.

 

[RPGamer92]

The Witness was also rated for Xbox One and the developer said, there will be no XOne Version.

There were also listings for Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon 2 at one point and those never happened.

 

[Primethius]

If it comes, it'll be finally a very compelling reason for me to visit the MS store.

 

[Granjinha]

Yes pls. I love Remedy so much.

There were also listings for Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon 2 at one point and those never happened.

There weren't. The listings were from Amazon that constantly makes mistakes.

 

[etta]

I don't get it, why do people act like this is true? Wasn't Halo 5 rated for PC as well? And others?
Was it confirmed somewhere?

yeah, it's not going to launch on the xb1. But this is Remedy, and Remedy has always shown love to the PC gamers. QB is coming, they're just not coming and saying it because they can't

No, Blow said it was done for convenience in case they do wish to release it on that platform on a later date.

these things aren't bulletproof, that's true. but there's already been enough smoke regarding QB to PC that it appears to be more of a matter of when than if

But Quantum Break IP is owned by Microsoft. Remedy can only hope it will release on PC, but they can't do it themselves.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

Remember this?:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1094934

yeah, it's not going to launch on the xb1. But this is Remedy, and Remedy has always shown love to the PC gamers. QB is coming, they're just not coming and saying it because they can't

The Witness was also rated for Xbox One and the developer said, there will be no XOne Version.

No, Blow said it was done for convenience in case they do wish to release it on that platform on a later date.

There were also listings for Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon 2 at one point and those never happened.

these things aren't bulletproof, that's true. but there's already been enough smoke regarding QB to PC that it appears to be more of a matter of when than if

But Quantum Break IP is owned by Microsoft. Remedy can only hope it will release on PC, but they can't do it themselves.

and you think MS will not let Remedy release it on PC? Because history shows that they've been perfectly okay with it

 

[Zedox]

Remember this?:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1094934

Yep...that's why this game not coming to PC right away makes sense but being announced (aka after they are done) that it's coming to PC may be a thing. This year will be very interesting with Xbox and Windows.

 

[RPGamer92]

yeah, it's not going to launch on the xb1. But this is Remedy, and Remedy has always shown love to the PC gamers. QB is coming, they're just not coming and saying it because they can't



No, Blow said it was done for convenience in case they do wish to release it on that platform on a later date.



these things aren't bulletproof, that's true. but there's already been enough smoke regarding QB to PC that it appears to be more of a matter of when than if



and you think MS will not let Remedy release it on PC? Because history shows that they've been perfectly okay with it

I would probably say not until 2017 at the earliest since MS didn't have a PC listing next to the game in their 2016 schedule like Recore did.

 

[Chris1]

I will be highly impressed by Microsoft if they greenlight QB on PC, I'm not expecting such a AAA release on any other platform than the Xbox console.

Why would they not put it on PC? I'm just curious as to why you think that.

Single player games like Recore, QB, etc are THE games that should be on PC for the simple reason they don't require xbox live gold to play, so putting it on PC will lose nothing and won't cause as much of an issue with xbox gamers.

If I was a betting man, I'd put money on every single single player focused game going on PC at some point. The ones I'd say that won't go PC are ones with a multiplayer focus like Halo etc.

 

[MrCunningham]

I was expecting this one to come to PC, but months after the Xbox One game.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

I would probably say not until 2017 at the earliest since MS didn't have a PC listing next to the game in their 2016 schedule like Recore did.

that would assume they would be publishing the PC version. If Remedy was doing the publishing, though, would it show up on that list? Though now that i think about it, i think MS did publish AW on the PC.

But yeah, it wouldn't shock me if it was a 12 month difference. It took almost 2 years for Alan Wake to come over but, then again, PC gaming wasn't as sure a then then than it is now so the delay could be shorter

I'm not saying it won't, but QB is 100% depends on MS because it's MS IP, not Remedy's.
And i hardly believe they will let Remedy self-publish QB if it's going to PC.

naw, i take back the remedy publishing thing, it would be MS. But like i said, Alan Wake came out at a time that this type of thing was less likely than it is today. These days it doesn't even seem crazy, and in the case of a Remedy game it just seems expected

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

yeah, it's not going to launch on the xb1. But this is Remedy, and Remedy has always shown love to the PC gamers. QB is coming, they're just not coming and saying it because they can't

I'm not saying it won't, but QB is 100% depends on MS because it's MS IP, not Remedy's.
And i hardly believe they will let Remedy self-publish QB if it's going to PC.

 

[Mudcrab]

Yeah, I'm sure all those PC gamers pirating the game will help it be commercially successful.

 

[Abilidebob]

Wait, where in OPs link does it say PC? The advisory board one. I can only read Xbox one there.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Wait, where in OPs link does it say PC? The advisory board one. I can only read Xbox one there.

Site updated(removed PC part) maybe? mistake?
http://portal.mj.gov.br/Classificac...JogoForm.do?select_action=&tbjogo_codigo=7100

 

[Abilidebob]

Site updated(removed PC part) maybe? mistake?
http://portal.mj.gov.br/Classificac...JogoForm.do?select_action=&tbjogo_codigo=7100

Now the problem is to know if the mistake was by Microsoft or the board.

 

[etta]

Site updated(removed PC part) maybe? mistake?
http://portal.mj.gov.br/Classificac...JogoForm.do?select_action=&tbjogo_codigo=7100

lol

 

[prag16]

Now the problem is to know if the mistake was by Microsoft or the board.

And whether it was removed because it doesn't exist (yet), or because it wasn't intended to be public knowledge (yet)

 

[Steverulez]

At least it will cut down on the port begging if it does happen. More MS games on Windows 10 will be nice as they can hopefully generate a good return and ensure more of the new IPs MS are making become franchises so hopefully it happens in a timely manner

 

[secretanchitman]

Wouldn't surprise me. Most of the Xbone games that I want to play are already on or coming soon to PC.

 

[MrGlugi]

I bought One for exclusives. I already own WiiU, PS4 and PC. So far my interest list looks like this: Halo MCC (finished all games), Sunset Overdrive (few hours in), Halo 5, Rare Collection, Forza Horizon 2, Quantum Break, Crackdown, GoW 4, Scalebound.
That makes 9 games in total (counting collections as 1 game, mostly because it's kind of replay in my case, not the fresh experience). Recore, Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Rise of the Tomb Raider are, or will be, available on PC. I really hope that Microsoft will release more true exclusives on X1 and I'm curious to see what will happen with QB.

 

[Ol No Bones]

Cool. The more the merrier. I wouldn't doubt an Xbox/Win10 release at launch maybe steam later.. I hope for Xbox/win10 cross buy on all MS titles. It just makes too much sense.

 

[Ol No Bones]

I bought One for exclusives. I already own WiiU, PS4 and PC. So far my interest list looks like this: Halo MCC (finished all games), Sunset Overdrive (few hours in), Halo 5, Rare Collection, Forza Horizon 2, Quantum Break, Crackdown, GoW 4, Scalebound.
That makes 9 games in total (counting collections as 1 game, mostly because it's kind of replay in my case, not the fresh experience). Recore, Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Rise of the Tomb Raider are, or will be, available on PC. I really hope that Microsoft will release more true exclusives on X1 and I'm curious to see what will happen with QB.

Just get them on a Windows 10 device if you want. They are only giving you more options. Somehow having a more diverse selection of devices to play is seen as a loss.. smh

 

[JaseC]

And it certainly won't work if you actively give people reasons to continue not using it.

That goes without saying, but as I said, Microsoft will have a few months of RotTR sales data to inform whether or not the decision to make Gears UE PC exclusive to the WinStore is one that could be deemed wise.

 

[GnawtyDog]

Halo is still Xbox One only. So they can still ensnare me with a slim bundle at the right price but my gig can run all these games great.

The # of reasons for getting an Xbox are running slim. I would much prefer to avoid paying for Live in addition to PS Plus, not that it's expensive (deals everywhere) but still.

They keep making moves as if they're on a transition path for the Xbox brand. We'll see 2-3 years from now what moves MS makes.

 

[.hacked]

Man I would love it if all Xbox one exclusives came to Windows 10.


Already use and elite Xbox one controller on my pc would be like a super Xbox one.

 

[dugdug]

So, it's been a few hours. Has anyone from Remedy or MS said anything at all in reference to this?

 

[Trago]

If it is coming to PC, it's definitely on the Windows Store. Gotta push that service into relevancy.

 

[Synth]

That goes without saying, but as I said, Microsoft will have a few months of RotTR sales data to inform the decision of whether or not making Gears UE PC exclusive to the WinStore is one that could be deemed wise.

I doubt this sort of decision would rest on the sales of RoTR.. especially as the fact that it will be on Steam renders the data mostly useless. RoTR will sell massively more on Steam by default, but that doesn't inform them of how many of the Steam purchases could have been Windows Store purchases had the game not landed at the customers doorstep, rather than them having to pop round the corner to visit the Windows Store.

I think the decisions on what's getting released where were likely solidified within MS long before the games were even ready to be announced to us. That their existence on PC itself is part of a push to drive more traffic to their store, and their ecosystem... and that if they didn't think they could make it work, then they'd probably just have opted to keep the games legitimately exclusive to their console platform. Windows 10 with its store is the differentiate between when MS wasn't releasing it's bigger name project on Windows and when it is. They've had the ability to put games on Xbox and PC for years, but the ball logically started rolling once they had a new ecosystem ready to go... and this ecosystem is mutually exclusive from Steam.

 

[MaLDo]

I bought One for exclusives. I already own WiiU, PS4 and PC. So far my interest list looks like this: Halo MCC (finished all games), Sunset Overdrive (few hours in), Halo 5, Rare Collection, Forza Horizon 2, Quantum Break, Crackdown, GoW 4, Scalebound.
That makes 9 games in total (counting collections as 1 game, mostly because it's kind of replay in my case, not the fresh experience). Recore, Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Rise of the Tomb Raider are, or will be, available on PC. I really hope that Microsoft will release more true exclusives on X1 and I'm curious to see what will happen with QB.

If what makes you play on the One are the exclusives and not the features, what's the problem playing a better version of those games on your PC instead if they exist?

 

[JaseC]

I doubt this sort of decision would rest on the sales of RoTR.. especially as the fact that it will be on Steam renders the data mostly useless. RoTR will sell massively more on Steam by default, but that doesn't inform them of how many of the Steam purchases could have been Windows Store purchases had the game not landed at the customers doorstep, rather than them having to pop round the corner to visit the Windows Store.

I've already danced this dance with dr_rus and am not interested in going around in circles. Let's just agree to disagree.

To be clear, I'm not fussed either way; I'm just making the argument that the WinStore being positioned as an integral component of the OS doesn't necessarily mean that Microsoft's Win10 releases being WinStore exclusives is a forgone conclusion. It's a distinct possibility, arguably even likely, but not something I'd say is a certainty.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

So, it's been a few hours. Has anyone from Remedy or MS said anything at all in reference to this?

Don't think they need to say anything(goes to PC or not) and since the site itself updated so whatever for now.

 

[Synth]

I've already danced this dance with dr_rus and am not interested in going around in circles. Let's just agree to disagree.

To be clear, I'm not fussed either way; I'm just making the argument that the WinStore being positioned as an integral component of the OS doesn't necessarily mean that Microsoft's Win10 releases being WinStore exclusives is a forgone conclusion. It's a distinct possibility, arguably even likely, but not something I'd say is a certainty.

Ok cool.

 

[MrGlugi]

Just get them on a Windows 10 device if you want. They are only giving you more options. Somehow having a more diverse selection of devices to play is seen as a loss.. smh

I just feel that my purchase of One is unjustified. I blindly trusted that MS will release some X1 only titles that will be worth it, like they did in 360 era. But I can play most of them on my PC, with better framerate and graphics. So far I'm much happier with WiiU and PS4 when it comes to exclusives. I feel that this purchase was, at least partially, a loss of money . Yeah, bit egoistic.

If what makes you play on the One are the exclusives and not the features, what's the problem playing a better version of those games on your PC instead if they exist?

I'm actually playing those better versions on PC I'm just a little bit disappointed, because if more and more "X1 only" games will appear to be not-so-exclusive, why should I bother with worse version (the one on One, lol)?

 

[blakep267]

I've already danced this dance with dr_rus and am not interested in going around in circles. Let's just agree to disagree.

To be clear, I'm not fussed either way; I'm just making the argument that the WinStore being positioned as an integral component of the OS doesn't necessarily mean that Microsoft's Win10 releases being WinStore exclusives is a forgone conclusion. It's a distinct possibility, arguably even likely, but not something I'd say is a certainty.

But he's right though. If the game was coming to steam they'd say it. In the Xbox wire post a few weeks back they said there upcoming line up. Cobalt is coming to steam where as the other games are Windows 10. They've been saying Windows 10 since last E3

 

[Ol No Bones]

I just feel that my purchase of One is unjustified. I blindly trusted that MS will release some X1 only titles that will be worth it, like they did in 360 era. But I can play most of them on my PC, with better framerate and graphics. So far I'm much happier with WiiU and PS4 when it comes to exclusives. I feel that this purchase was, at least partially, a loss of money . Yeah, bit egoistic.


I'm actually playing those better versions on PC I'm just a little bit disappointed, because if more and more "X1 only" games will appear to be not-so-exclusive, why should I bother with worse version (the one on One, lol)?

Ok, since your PC is so powerful isn't it great that MS is releasing their games in a way that you can get more out of them. So sell the Xbox and buy the games you want on Win10 going forward. Sounds like they are doing you a favor. Or buy it and play on both PC and console. Win win for you since you have both a capable PC, Win 10 and an Xbox. You have only gained options you have lost nothing.

 

[cm osi]

Ok, since your PC is so powerful isn't it great that MS is releasing their games in a way that you can get more out of them. So sell the Xbox and buy the games you want on Win10 going forward. Sounds like they are doing you a favor. Or buy it and play on both PC and console. Win win for you since you have both a capable PC, Win 10 and an Xbox. You have only gained options you have lost nothing.

at this point ms can just offer crossbuy. what i wonder is if nobody will question the online paywall on xbone when you can have the free online on pc

 

[MrGlugi]

Ok, since your PC is so powerful isn't it great that MS is releasing their games in a way that you can get more out of them. So sell the Xbox and buy the games you want on Win10 going forward. Sounds like they are doing you a favor. Or buy it and play on both PC and console. Win win for you since you have both a capable PC, Win 10 and an Xbox. You have only gained options you have lost nothing.

You, I like you. Thanks for pouring some optimism into my day I'm definitely gonna rethink my buying strategy.

 

[BasilZero]

Awesome!

Love Remedy's games and have only played them on PC lol

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Excellent. Hopefully that equates to more sales, more games.

I like where Microsoft is heading with unifying xbox branded hardware and the xbox software/store on the pc side.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Cool that MS is sharing the love

 

[Zeta Oni]

Ok, since your PC is so powerful isn't it great that MS is releasing their games in a way that you can get more out of them. So sell the Xbox and buy the games you want on Win10 going forward. Sounds like they are doing you a favor. Or buy it and play on both PC and console. Win win for you since you have both a capable PC, Win 10 and an Xbox. You have only gained options you have lost nothing.

Can we just keep you around these X1/W10 game threads, your positivivity is refreshing.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

I just feel that my purchase of One is unjustified. I blindly trusted that MS will release some X1 only titles that will be worth it, like they did in 360 era. But I can play most of them on my PC, with better framerate and graphics. So far I'm much happier with WiiU and PS4 when it comes to exclusives. I feel that this purchase was, at least partially, a loss of money . Yeah, bit egoistic.


I'm actually playing those better versions on PC I'm just a little bit disappointed, because if more and more "X1 only" games will appear to be not-so-exclusive, why should I bother with worse version (the one on One, lol)?

Get use to it man, this is where Microsoft is heading. Remember, most people don't have capable gaming pcs.

As Nadela had stated, Microsoft's hardware is to showcase their software.

Millions of people will choose xbox branded hardware because of the general simplicity of a game console.

But millions of people that have capable gaming pcs can enjoy Microsoft exclusive titles also with the direction Microsoft is heading in.

It's a win win in my book. More game sales, means more games.

 

[link2021]

i don't see why people are getting upset about this. when console player are going to play it on console. PC player would play on PC. there more console player then 10% of PC player that actually have rigs to play these game. it not like little jimmy is going to get a 1000 $ rig to play these game when he can get a Xbox

 

[Ol No Bones]

at this point ms can just offer crossbuy. what i wonder is if nobody will question the online paywall on xbone when you can have the free online on pc

Yeah I think MS has a real problem in this area. You cannot put an arbitrary pay divide between console and PC and Win10 paywall is a non starter. I don't know how they fix that besides making online MP free on console but that obviously won't happen.

 

[Nutter]

Less and less reasons to keep my Xbox One are coming about. If this is true and Gears 4 comes to PC, then my Xbox One goes bye-bye.

These posts are amazing.

You are still giving MS your money. And I look forward to MS making Xbox a platform that exists outside of a specific platform, so you can really stick it to MS by continuously giving them your money.