Maybe you should play more otaku games around other people so eventually you won't feel so awkward about it.
Fire Emblem Fates' localization doesn't have the petting minigame
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Maybe you should play more otaku games around other people so eventually you won't feel so awkward about it.
Crash Station
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I find it baffling too and I really don't want to throw any insults at people, but on a personal level, I see absolutely no way it affects anyone unless said optional content is REALLY fucked up (like there's just some eroge tucked away in there somehow). But having your sensibilities offended by Pokemon-Amie with humans? I just can't fathom it. Like, is it just hyper religious people we're talking about with a very very low tolerance for any kind of sexualization even if that's not the intent? Or is it because it has a somewhat generic anime art style? Are people just uninformed and think it's Monster Monpiece where you're touching the entire body?
I don't get it.
PixyJunket
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Killing people is not weird and off-putting to you?
What else is keeping you? This is gonna be interesting to see how this sales compared to awakening with fans in the west going loco with the 2 versions of the game and a few minority mad at the removal of the petting.
I was just gonna ignore it but I don't know the correlation between those who were still gonna buy even with the petting still in vs those who won't buy without.
I honestly know nothing about this particular case, so I shouldn't have commented. I just thought it'd be hostess existing in a game about the Japanese mafia.
Vincent Grayson
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Of course it "holds up". If someone asks "why do you like the removal of this thing?" and your answer is "I think it's bad/negative for the game", of course that's an opinion, but it's also a perfectly valid answer to the question.
Bearpowers
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So glad I didn't pre order the special edition now, I was tempted but I knew this would happen.
Hopefully this costs them a noticeable amount of lost sales.
Hopefully this costs them a noticeable amount of lost sales.
NeonZ
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The reason they added skinship was because they wanted to implement the live 2d tech somewhere in the game, and didn't like how they worked for conversations, not because they were specifically looking for a mini-game related to increasing bonds.
mullet2000
Member
Something tells me they'll be okay.
Alex Stroud
Banned
Think I'm good.
I can tell you it has actually convinced me to buy it rather than wait!
I disagree.
It's more than fine. It's an excellent example of good localization that improves a game.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Better implies a qualitative statement. You can't say removing something that you don't like will make a game better. It can make you like the game more. But it's not objectively an improvement to that game's quality.
It would be more like removing a side room where all the creepy magazine covers are. Just don't go in the room. Similarly, don't click on the Amie menu. It's an absurdly minor inconvenience to have an optional feature that you don't want to use.
Again, it's probably smart to not localize Amie because it's not worth the cost, but the game is the exact same when you ignore Amie and when Amie isn't there at all.
Crash Station
Member
Did they get a PR nightmare from Nowi?
vainglorious
Member
lol Seriously the Special Edition has been sold out for ages and pre-orders for it lasted maybe a day at best. I had to haul ass to a Gamestop to get a pre-order bc everything was sold out online.
Elaugaufein
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Quiet the opposite I'd imagine. Most of the GAF dislike is from social progressives.
let's not pretend we're not all completely desensitized to violence by now
Vincent Grayson
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That's a pointlessly pedantic answer though. Obviously people are sharing their opinion, given that there is no objective measure in play here.
TheOnePercent
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Nintendo released a game about a demon stripper witch killing angels, and there was no PR nightmare.
Do you really think anybody is going to care about face touching in an anime fantasy RPG?
If you say so. We'll see how you feel when other people start playing otaku games around you.
Coffee Dog
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Yeah, it's all subjective whether or not it improves or detracts from the experience. The only thing objective is that america is getting less game than japan.
They're really, really off-putting to me that I avoid a lot of games and movies with gratuitous violence and gore. I just cannot handle that stuff that I turned off EVO when Mortal Kombat was on because it made me feel uneasy.
This even goes for cartoon violence like some anime too. It doesn't matter the look, if there is heavy violence or gore, I can't take it and I wish people would stop putting blood in everything to show some form of impact to the character when it's not even required. A lot of the times it's not even in any form of context, it's just there to be some sign of impact.
Actually, Polygon tried to start something, but it didn't work.
I would honestly rather shop at a store without a creepy side room, and I would rather play a Fire Emblem game without petting mechanics, optional or otherwise.
To me, there is a time and a place for everything. Bayonetta is an appropriate setting for killing demons and stripper poles, so fine, include it. My problem with the face thing isn't that its lewd or anything, its that its extremely unfitting for Fire Emblem. I think both games have very different audiences, and I am sure Nintnendo considers that during the localization process.
Aaron-Lagann
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I'm one of the most socially progressive people I know and I live in Oregon. Being against toys and cartoons being vaguely sexual is not social progressiveness. It's overcompensation if I've ever seen it.
How is "I like it more" more pedantic than "It's better"?
KirbYuuYuu
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Only massive backlash for getting a game for a system that ultimately no one cares for.
entremet
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That was 3 years ago. Times have changed.
Vincent Grayson
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I'm saying that quibbling over the words used when it's a given that this is all opinion is pedantic.
TheBryanJZX90
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Nothing's in a vacuum. Time and manpower efforts spent on creating this DLC mode could also have been spent on creating DLC content that actually appeals to me. So as a self-interested consumer yes it would negatively affect me.
cm osi
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surprisingly they didn't cut them in yakuza 4 and 5 and we're still alive and the world is still spinning
NeonZ
Member
Well, there's one thing that almost certainly will be changed in #FE's localization.
Several generic enemies, rather than being based on FE classes or SMT demons, are based on random pop culture stuff, like a ghost enemy called "Casper", although his design isn't similar to the actual one; there's an enemy called Sadako who looks straight from The Ring or a "Cenobite Head" which... looks like a Cenobite's head from the Hellraiser series; Balrog as a flaming horned demon like in Lord of the Rings, and several others - although some are slightly more vague, like "Burger Clown".
Coffee Dog
Banned
Why though? What confuses me is that for you, there would be no difference between a game with this feature or without it, because it is entirely optional. Is it because you have a moral objection to the content and would feel more comfortable supporting the game as a whole without it?
YianGaruga
Banned
None of that has to do with this specific case, as the mode already exists.
Well they'll be ok, they've always censored games yet they still sale well. There's far more people who more than likely don't give a shit as long as they get more fire emblem, like me...
mullet2000
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Which in large part is because, again, Bayonetta's sexuality is a core part of the character/game and there is intelligent debate to be had on both "sides" of the argument of those who see her as empowering and those who don't. The fact that Nintendo published Bayonetta at all should show that they aren't scared of publishing something with sexual content if the game feels like it justifies it.
With FE: Fates it's an odd tacked-on feeling feature that we all know and understand is only there to appeal to a very specific Japanese audience. It doesn't feel essential, or even important, to the experience.
Since basically every video game has us killing people/things, no. Petting someone's face is not fun and it's completely lame and weird. Ripping someone's spine out may be grotesque, but it's fun at least.
Nobody aside from a handful of hardcore FE fans are going to miss the feature. It's a good move removing it for the rest of the player base.
Crash Station
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Hoping for cut content is kind of regressive. Incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things, but it does kind of go against some of the core tenants of what social progressives advocate.
Fair enough, I just think it's a petty thing to worry about.
Speaking only for myself, yes. I used to be able to say I liked the Fire Emblem series without feeling the need to qualify the statement. That's two aspects of this entry that creep me out to the extent that I'll stop claiming to be a fan.
They should say "fuck it" and replace all of them with Mara.
Boy, does this game sound more and more insane.
Trojita
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Vincent Grayson
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It exists...in Japanese. It does not exist in English, and time/money/effort spent on localizing could be used elsewhere or on other games.
QuantumZebra
Member
Thank god
TheBryanJZX90
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Huh??? I was responding to the hypothetical that YOU put forward...
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