Serkan Toto Rumor: Bandai Namco making several NX games, including a Smash for launch
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dreamlongdead
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If this is true, then that is excellent news for people who didn't buy a Wii U.
They don't need backwards compatibility because the only people who bought Wii U will buy anything Nintendo.
Going to get a full house this time though
Everywhere you look
DrROBschiz
Member
Smash as a Platform or just Complete Edition then walk away?
Thats the big question huh
ArchedThunder
Banned
Squirtle was the best in Brawl...Might as well dust this off:
Jawmuncher
Member
I see quite a few ports just like we saw with the WiiU launch
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Ice Climbers as exclusive character 
Why should we assume that? Of course, we don't know either way, but I think it makes far more sense to just build off of what they've already got this time around then scrap everything and make an entirely new Smash Bros. Just port the Wii U version over, add some more content, and that's that. That's all they really need to do.
Hero of Legend
Member
Should Smash 5 be this at launch, where it's a ground-up new game tailor-made for NX, but it's like this:
- Classic mode like Smash 4 at launch.
- Online obviously.
- 20-odd characters to start, 12 being from all of 64's, plus a few favs from the later games (Mewtwo, Sonic, Bayonetta, Cloud, Ice Climbers, Wolf, etc) plus new ones (K. Rool, Bomberman, Banjo, etc).
- Entire gen is just gradually updating the game. Gradually adding in every character from previous games (likely sans Snake), new modes, trophies, the works.
- At least one all-new mode at the start.
- Huge list of content announcement that basically outlines the first year (or at least the first 6 months) of new additions to not make it feel so light on content.
- First year of content is free ala Splatoon.
You get the idea. Would this be feasible as long as we get a pretty decent-sized game (like 64-size) at launch day but with the promise and initial list of the rest of the content? I mean it's that or wait 4 years for it and it'll still have more DLC anyway.
Edit: You may ask, why not just port Smash 4 and go from there?
I'm not a fan of how Smash 4 looks and the way it is, I think with the hardware available, it'd be perfect to start fresh. Like many models feel like they need serious overhauls anyway (Fox, DK, etc). An updated art style would be great also. Tales of Vesperia-style would be gorgeous, or at least try to make every character the way they should look in their respective series.
- Classic mode like Smash 4 at launch.
- Online obviously.
- 20-odd characters to start, 12 being from all of 64's, plus a few favs from the later games (Mewtwo, Sonic, Bayonetta, Cloud, Ice Climbers, Wolf, etc) plus new ones (K. Rool, Bomberman, Banjo, etc).
- Entire gen is just gradually updating the game. Gradually adding in every character from previous games (likely sans Snake), new modes, trophies, the works.
- At least one all-new mode at the start.
- Huge list of content announcement that basically outlines the first year (or at least the first 6 months) of new additions to not make it feel so light on content.
- First year of content is free ala Splatoon.
You get the idea. Would this be feasible as long as we get a pretty decent-sized game (like 64-size) at launch day but with the promise and initial list of the rest of the content? I mean it's that or wait 4 years for it and it'll still have more DLC anyway.
Edit: You may ask, why not just port Smash 4 and go from there?
I'm not a fan of how Smash 4 looks and the way it is, I think with the hardware available, it'd be perfect to start fresh. Like many models feel like they need serious overhauls anyway (Fox, DK, etc). An updated art style would be great also. Tales of Vesperia-style would be gorgeous, or at least try to make every character the way they should look in their respective series.
Von Krukru
Banned
Soulcalibur series reboot named SoulEdge. NX timed exclusive, lauch title.
Maybe.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Then support it for a billion years with DLC. This is honestly what I think is the most likely.
I hope we get more kinds of DLC too, like alternate costumes.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Talking seriously, I expect a port of Lost Reavers, some pacman game, anime games like one piece and dragon ball and maybe tekken.
DecoReturns
Member
Where did the idea of a New smash game come from? It probably gonna be a quick and easy port.
Your setting yourself for disappointment with this new characters talk.
Your setting yourself for disappointment with this new characters talk.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Playable Ridley perhaps? Let the cycle begin anew.
DrROBschiz
Member
WAY too tight
Just sounds ridiculous to have ANOTHER ground up game made this close to Smash 4 content
balladofwindfishes
Member
A quick port wouldn't do anything.
You add Ice Climbers and some random new comer and now it's a system seller.
I don't think it'll be a new game, but I don't think it'll just be Smash 4 GOTY edition either.
kuroneko0509
Member
it's not like you can rub lucina anyway if it still exist in localized version :v
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
I just hope I'll be able to transfer my savefile from Wii U to NX. I don't want to unlock everything again and lose all my stats.
Because the keyword here is that they want it in time for the launch of the NX and the only way that will happen is if it is a straight port/Complete Edition of Smash 4's Wii U version. Adding additional characters takes time, especially new ones and they would be forced to once again go through a process of balancing the new characters with the old all the while porting the game to the NX.. That doesn't seem like a project that would be finished in time by the end of the year or, if we want to stretch things a little longer than that, next year.
You saw how long it took them to release DLC characters for Smash 4. Now just try to add characters while they actually need to work on porting the game to the NX and characters aren't just their focus/priority.
Of course, it was a smaller team but still the bulk of the work would assumed to be on the porting itself and any new content wouldn't be budgeted into it because it's a port job -- it's supposed to be inexpensive for easy profit.
Not enough PS4s duct taped together in the world to have playable Ridley work in a game.
DrROBschiz
Member
Heavily predicted but nice to see them doubling down on what they built
I just hope the announcement comes with a promise that Smash moves forward on NX as a platform to be continuously added to and updated
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
I'm thinking Smash Wii U port is most likely.
I see them throwing in goodies like Ice Climbers, potentially (hopefully) Wolf, and the 3DS exclusive stages and Smash Run.
Just do the above and you will convince us all to triple dip.
It will get me to do so anyway.
I see them throwing in goodies like Ice Climbers, potentially (hopefully) Wolf, and the 3DS exclusive stages and Smash Run.
Just do the above and you will convince us all to triple dip.
It will get me to do so anyway.
DecoReturns
Member
Its Smash, add the DLC and a new cover and people would still buy it. If this is their big launch title game then, yes a quick port won't be good, but I feel they have better launch games coming and Smash is there for easy money.
Eh, they've had time to develop new content AND they need a way to sell it to people who already own it on wiiu/3DS. I'd expect SOMETHING more than a port. Only way they can get away with a STRAIGHT port is if it's free for everyone who bought it on wii u or 3DS.
DrROBschiz
Member
Well it is meant to sell the best smash game, with everything, to those who didnt buy a WiiU.... which is a pretty big number
Not to mention those who want to upgrade no matter what
Its a slam dunk no matter how you slice it
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
They're done with new characters for Smash 4.
balladofwindfishes
Member
In a year and a half they added three vets, four new comers, and nine stages (four old, five new). And this was with a smaller team than the base game had.
With more resources and a larger team, more like a proper product (and not just DLC), they could get 4-5 more characters, some 3DS stage ports and some addition stuff into the game, likely with no issues at all.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Yeah, I think it's perfectly rational to think it could be a "new" game built directly on top of Smash 4, kinda like a Smash 4.5.
Jade Knight 08
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But we don't know if the devs would bother changing Smash 4 without Sakurai, who may have moved on to a passion project.
DecoReturns
Member
If thats the case, I should have multiple free copies of Resident Evil 4 jk
Seriously tho, I just can't see them making a new game so fast because of all the patches and the last direct. Maybe it is a 64-Melee situation.
Well hey, Congrats Melee HD!
You want to sell it to both new and old, no? A much much much smaller portion of existing customers would buy it if there is no new content. I mean, honestly, we don't know enough about the NX to know if it'll appeal to anyone that isn't already an existing fan. There's a chance NX still only sells to nintendo fans, AGAIN, just like Wii U, and in that case, almost all of them will already have the exact same game on Wii U? How many do you expect to double dip without new content? Hell, I don't even know that I would.
It needs SOMETHING, ANYTHING. Throw a bone to existing fans as they're almost assuredly the largest customer base for this game, at least at launch.
DrROBschiz
Member
Smash 4 with everything is the base
And the NX is the springboard for the future
ArchedThunder
Banned
They're done with new characters for Smash for Wii U and 3DS.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
What about Wii U? ;_;
Smash 4 NX:
-All 84 Stages
-All characters, including DLC
-Smash Run Port
-Small tweaks (Purchasable custom moves/accessories/Mii Items, Hazzard Toggle, balancing concerns.)
-11 new characters
5 from the companies absorbed by the 3rd parties. I.e. Taito, Enix, Eidos, Atlus, Hudson
5 top requested Nintendo characters from the ballot (Calie/Marie, Marshall, etc...)
1 new Mii Form (Mage)
-4 Returning characters (Snake, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Pichu)
-6 new stages based on new franchises
-More Songs
-More Trophies
Unlikley as fuck, but I'd love it.
-All 84 Stages
-All characters, including DLC
-Smash Run Port
-Small tweaks (Purchasable custom moves/accessories/Mii Items, Hazzard Toggle, balancing concerns.)
-11 new characters
5 from the companies absorbed by the 3rd parties. I.e. Taito, Enix, Eidos, Atlus, Hudson
5 top requested Nintendo characters from the ballot (Calie/Marie, Marshall, etc...)
1 new Mii Form (Mage)
-4 Returning characters (Snake, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Pichu)
-6 new stages based on new franchises
-More Songs
-More Trophies
Unlikley as fuck, but I'd love it.
Movalpolos
Banned
I bought a Wii U. I won't be buying NX. Done supporting Nintendo.
DecoReturns
Member
To be Fair, that's what the games are called, its on the box!
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
So Smash 5?
DrROBschiz
Member
Agreed
I cant imagine they would Combine all the WiiU/3DS content and just call it a day
They need a bonus and a trajectory for the future
That said.... Definitive Edition and DONE is still on the table of something they could end up doing
ArchedThunder
Banned
Pichu over Squirtle? C'mon son.
DrROBschiz
Member
Well
With enough updates to this version it may end up different enough to be called a sequel over time
Smash 5 from the ground up. New game, new engine, new whatever? Not this early. No way