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[tebunker]

That sure would be swell of Nintendo to do so

Well the my have certainly hinted at it. They have mentioned time and again that the new nintendo account will offer loyalty bonuses among other things.

I could conceivably see then offering a discount, digitally mind you, for anyone who had bought/registered those games. I wouldn't expect much of one, but I could see it.

What I am more interested in is how virtual console and other digital purhases going to be handeld. History tells us poorly, but all of the communications made it seem like they had learned their lessons.

This is definitely interesting times. I for one can't wait to see just how much this company has changed and what decisions they're making to be more relevant and competitive in the market.

I am personally too burned out by them to be willing to support anything other than a complete turnaround from previous policy.

 

[GrandiaX]

Maybe they expected new 1st party games vs Wii U games that are already out?

There is not enough time to create multiple AAA first party titles at launch. Maybe 1-2 if you are lucky thus the Wii HD ports.

I think people are being way too hopeful that NX is going to make Wii U sales seem microscopic. I think the safe assumption, for NOW, is that the initial NX crowd *IS* the wii U crowd, the hardcore nintendo fanbase. Ports *HAVE* to be a BONUS for consumers who never owned a Wii U, not the selling point of your system. Last of us is the best example I can think of. I really doubt anyone bought a PS4 *just* for last of us. I think a ton of people picked it up because they were already getting a PS4 and it was a nice to have or they never played it before.

Agreed. Right now even Nintendo fans might not support the NX if there aren't new titles. There weren't enough games on the Wii U and porting over their AAA titles would be a slap in the face. Who is going to keep rebuying the sames games on EVERY Nintendo console? Apparently Nintendo fans are really that desperate.

 

[DrROBschiz]

The reputation and reception of those games is well known among the community, it's just few people have actually played them. The Wii U's problem isn't it's lack of games, its that people are unwilling to actually buy the console. I don't think anything other than Smash will come to NX, it's not a Nintendo thing to do and it doesn't make sense for a company who constantly look ahead when developing new installments. Splatoon likely won't come to NX, Splatoon 2 almost certainly will.

I dont know if you know this

But WiiU itself has received a fair share of ports and remasters. 3DS too...

 

[Herb Alpert]

I can see a shift in the narrative :

OMG LMAO NX IS FILLED WITH WII U PORTS!!!

Spoiler

At 900P/60FPS LOL

 

[kuroneko0509]

why people expecting MK8 port for NX when MK9 most like will come?

 

[DrROBschiz]

I can see a shift in the narrative :

OMG LMAO NX IS FILLED WITH WII U PORTS!!!

Spoiler

At 900P/60FPS LOL

Its the PS4 launch all over again

 

[Roo]

...Because they did? Splatoon is selling very well in Japan.

It sold to the existing userbase tho
It barely moved the needle in the overall sales.

 

[Mariolee]

It is incredible that we've had nonstop Smash news for like the last three years.

 

[Grandius]

So the NX is just gonna be filled with ports?

Eeeem, just like PS4 and Xbone? I think that wouldn't be bad for NX sales.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Well

With enough updates to this version it may end up different enough to be called a sequel over time

Smash 5 from the ground up. New game, new engine, new whatever? Not this early. No way

Smash 4 is not a service. They made the base, some DLC and that's that. Sakurai is done with the game and so is the development team. Hell they made a big deal over the recent Smash Direct being the last one. Realistically, Namco is probably going to do a straight port of the Wii U game with all the DLC, Sakurai will make a new game and then return to make a Smash 5.

 

[DrROBschiz]

It is incredible that we've had nonstop Smash news for like the last three to four years.

Yup

They nailed it out of the park with Smash 4. What an incredible shift

 

[disap.ed]

Hoping this doesn't suggest a lack of BC.

I hope it does.

 

[Jonneh3003]

Aside from Smash and Zelda. What other Wii U games could up for NX ports?

Off the top of my head Tropical Freeze and a Pokemon Black and White 2 esque sequel to Xenoblade X using the same engine. We shouldn't all be expecting ports, there isn't any reason to looking back at how Nintendo have handled their releases in the past. Mario Maker, Splatoon and Mario Kart 8 are fantastic, they've also sold millions on the Wii U. Simply porting games that are a few years old isn't how Nintendo handles their releases. I only say Tropical Freeze due to low sales and the trend of DKC ports on handhelds, if NX has a handheld component.

 

[IntelliHeath]

But that takes a steaming shit on everyone who bought the original version of the game less than two years ago, and who have paid a premium price tag for DLC support since. If I would have known that if i just waited less than two years I wouldn't have to spend all the money that I already have on DLC + more content, I wouldn't have bought the game in the first place and just waited.

I realize that by not lining up for NX on day 1, I'm not one of the Nintendo whales that they're counting on, and I'm in the minority. I'm just a guy who likes good games, and if I get told that the version of the game that I bought is worse game with less in it just because I bought a Wii U, it's sort of frustrating.

I can only hope some sort of steep discount is in place for people that bought the original, because I can't justify buying a whole new game and system for the small amount of exclusive content they've added when I already spent so much on the obsolete one.

What if DLC would stays as DLC? Whoever already purchased the contents would be transferable to new console. I know it's unlikely but it's only good way people wouldn't felt that they are screwed.

 

[Calamari41]

why people expecting MK8 port for NX when MK9 most like will come?

Exactly. We're actually getting close to the release of the next Mario Kart if we go by the historical 3-ish year gap. That's 3 years between handheld and console releases, but with a unified library, it doesn't even matter. Personally, I'm expecting Mario Kart 9 to go all-in on the cameos and become more of a Smash Kart. I also see both Smash and Kart becoming more like services, with a lot more time in between releases going forward.

 

[Diffense]

But that takes a steaming shit on everyone who bought the original version of the game less than two years ago, and who have paid a premium price tag for DLC support since. If I would have known that if i just waited less than two years I wouldn't have to spend all the money that I already have on DLC + more content, I wouldn't have bought the game in the first place and just waited.

I realize that by not lining up for NX on day 1, I'm not one of the Nintendo whales that they're counting on, and I'm in the minority. I'm just a guy who likes good games, and if I get told that the version of the game that I bought is worse game with less in it just because I bought a Wii U, it's sort of frustrating.

I can only hope some sort of steep discount is in place for people that bought the original, because I can't justify buying a whole new game and system for the small amount of exclusive content they've added when I already spent so much on the obsolete one.

Well, in all likelihood the Wii U smash will still work and the NX version will require a $300 (?) investment so you'll still be ahead of the game.

 

[kirblar]

why people expecting MK8 port for NX when MK9 most like will come?

New numberings/titles for annual games like Smash/Mario Kart are almost guaranteed here because there's a new handheld alongside the new console. It'll be Smash 5 and MK9, not just up-ports.

 

[VolticArchangel]

Makes sense for their 2016 lineup and a highly likely Smash port. So, it's Tekken 7, Pokken NX, Smash 4 NX, NUNS4, Tales Collection and Dark Souls III so far. Have we missed anything? Would a DS II SOTFS port make financial sense for them if it isn't by Ninty?

 

[DrROBschiz]

Smash 4 is not a service. They made the base, some DLC and that's that. Sakurai is done with the game and so is the development team. Hell they made a big deal over the recent Smash Direct being the last one. Realistically, Namco is probably going to do a straight port of the Wii U game with all the DLC, Sakurai will make a new game and then return to make a Smash 5.

So you are on the side of it just being a straight port and not a platform going forward?

Pessimistic but definitely possible

I would hate to see them stop doing what has been working so well for Smash 4 though

 

[Loco4Coco]

I can see a shift in the narrative :

OMG LMAO NX IS FILLED WITH WII U PORTS!!!

Spoiler

At 900P/60FPS LOL

I see I messed up this thread. I usually never talk about these topics, I'll just see my way out. I'm sorry.

 

[kirblar]

Smash 4 is not a service. They made the base, some DLC and that's that. Sakurai is done with the game and so is the development team. Hell they made a big deal over the recent Smash Direct being the last one. Realistically, Namco is probably going to do a straight port of the Wii U game with all the DLC, Sakurai will make a new game and then return to make a Smash 5.

Splatoon also recently announced an end to content updates.

The timing doesn't seem like a coincidence.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Exactly. We're actually getting close to the release of the next Mario Kart if we go by the historical 3-ish year gap. That's 3 years between handheld and console releases, but with a unified library, it doesn't even matter. Personally, I'm expecting Mario Kart 9 to go all-in on the cameos and become more of a Smash Kart. I also see both Smash and Kart becoming more like services, with a lot more time in between releases going forward.

I just hope a ton of MK8 content can be brought over (Bonus DLC?) because it has some of the best MK content ever

 

[Jonneh3003]

I dont know if you know this

But WiiU itself has received a fair share of ports and remasters. 3DS too...

Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD
Can't speak for TP HD due to lack of hands on time with it but The Wind Waker HD was retooled to work with a new control scheme and had actual enhancements to the game design. From looks TP HD has had drastic changes to the textures. These are also games over a decade old which gives more incentive to rerelease them as it's introduces them to new audiences.

Ocarina of Time 3D, Majora's Mask 3D, Star Fox 64 3D

Huge visual overhauls and again retooled to work with new control schemes, Star Fox not so much. Once again older games for new audiences.

This is not the same as porting Wii U games.

 

[Plasma]

Would be cool is it was Smash Wii U port with all the DLC and maybe some more characters.

 

[iBlue]

I would like to know if Nintendo is planning to have a discount on the nx version for the people who bought the Digital Wii U version or perhaps for free?

 

[Calamari41]

I just hope a ton of MK8 content can be brought over (Bonus DLC?) because it has some of the best MK content ever

Yeah I totally agree. It seems like such a waste to leave most of those tracks behind. I really think they're on average the best tracks in the series. Hopefully if they make Mario Kart into more of a service, they'll bring all of the old tracks over in time via DLC as you suggested.

 

[GrandiaX]

I would like to know if Nintendo is planning to have a discount on the nx version for the people who bought the Digital Wii U version or perhaps for free?

Enter their new member rewards program (i.e. cross buy)

 

[Hero of Legend]

Hopefully Bayonetta 1 and 2 are among the Wii U ports to NX at some point (obviously not by BN I mean). Xenoblade Chronicles X also would be great, but hopefully Monolith make a new IP that's not related to Xenoblade at all.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

So you are on the side of it just being a straight port and not a platform going forward?

Pessimistic but definitely possible

I would hate to see them stop doing what has been working so well for Smash 4 though

That's not how Nintendo makes games and that's not what Sakurai wants to do. Just be glad you got DLC at all.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD
Can't speak for TP HD due to lack of hands on time with it but The Wind Waker HD was retooled to work with a new control scheme and had actual enhancements to the game design. From looks TP HD has had drastic changes to the textures. These are also games over a decade old which gives more incentive to rerelease them as it's introduces them to new audiences.

Ocarina of Time 3D, Majora's Mask 3D, Star Fox 64 3D

Huge visual overhauls and again retooled to work with new control schemes, Star Fox not so much. Once again older games for new audiences.

This is not the same as porting Wii U games.

One can only hope that WiiU ports would be given similar treatment

Especially since many of them can exist as evolving platforms

That's not how Nintendo makes games and that's not what Sakurai wants to do. Just be glad you got DLC at all.

Damn son why you mad

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Smash 4 is not a service. They made the base, some DLC and that's that. Sakurai is done with the game and so is the development team. Hell they made a big deal over the recent Smash Direct being the last one. Realistically, Namco is probably going to do a straight port of the Wii U game with all the DLC, Sakurai will make a new game and then return to make a Smash 5.

They designed menus and stuff to be totally modular. The game can support, basically, an endless amount of characters and stages due to how they set up everything. All they do is plop them in the list, and the game organizes them properly.

It appears they spent a lot of time making sure that the game could handle as much expansion at they wanted to it.

A straight port of Smash 4 wouldn't move the same units as just adding one character. Just one character would make such a profound difference, it would move from a "skip" to a "must have." That's how the Smash community works. It's the roster that moves copies.

 

[Diffense]

Nintendo remakes aren't *that* uncommon. Apart from the others mentioned there was also the "New Play Control" series of Wii remakes of Gamecube games like Pikmin 2 and Mario Tennis.

Their remakes usually bring something new to the table though so I'd assume that a Smash game for NX will have some new content even if the game is based on Smash 4 Wii U.

 

[Jonneh3003]

One can only hope that WiiU ports would be given similar treatment

Especially since many of them can exist as evolving platforms

I think we'll just have to disagree with each other, I don't think we'll see any more Wii U ports apart from Smash. Most First Party Wii U games sold well enough to likely be seen internally as successes. The company has rarely shown any interest in porting software from the system that proceeded it, this is usually done years later or if there's a drastic new control scheme.

 

[L Thammy]

Honestly, finding the time to play console games is such a hassle for me lately that I've barely play the Wii U games I own. So I'd be pretty happy if I could play them all on NX portable somehow, even if I'd have to buy them again.

 

[YAWN]

Hopefully Pokken comes to it too.

 

[oreomunsta]

To everybody including a possibility for Wolf to be included in a Smash NX game... You're all beautiful, beautiful people

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

They designed menus and stuff to be totally modular. The game can support, basically, an endless amount of characters and stages due to how they set up everything. All they do is plop them in the list, and the game organizes them properly.

It appears they spent a lot of time making sure that the game could handle as much expansion at they wanted to it.

A straight port of Smash 4 wouldn't move the same units as just adding one character. Just one character would make such a profound difference, it would move from a "skip" to a "must have." That's how the Smash community works. It's the roster that moves copies.

They did. That's why they put DLC in the game. Now they're done with DLC.

 

[TheJoRu]

The only other game I personally would expect to get a port is Splatoon. It has a lot of activity online (especially in Japan), which would be a shame to lose if a lot of the player base stops playing on Wii U. Also, would make sense to take advantage of what can only be described as a Splatoon-craze in Japan as much as possible right now; a sequel is probably two years away.

 

[DrROBschiz]

I think we'll just have to disagree with each other, I don't think we'll see any more Wii U ports apart from Smash. Most First Party Wii U games sold well enough to likely be seen internally as successes. The company has rarely shown any interest in porting software from the system that proceeded it, this is usually done years later or if there's a drastic new control scheme.

Yeha but they have never shifted from a dedicated hardware platform this quickly before

Maybe those software investments are still scene as valuable to the NX target audience?

You already have competitors showing success as a precedent.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

They did. That's why they put DLC in the game. Now they're done with DLC.

Yea, they're done with DLC.

But the same system they set up to handle DLC would also allow them to drop in as many new characters as they wanted for an enhanced port without needing to remake the GUI at all.

They set up the menu to handle 20+ more characters than the game has. Stages are the same. There would have been no DLC situation that required them to set up the menu for over 80 characters, but they did it anyway.

 

[SuperLeviathan]

I thought that meant they were done with the game, though, because it's titled Smash for Wii U/3DS.

Wouldn't be Sakurai's first brush with wordplay (remember how Ness was in every Smash game "up until now").

 

[bman94]

Where's our Lost Reavers Namco?

 

[Weebos]

Smash for NX with

Spoiler

Ice Climbers.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Yea, they're done with DLC.

But the same system they set up to handle DLC would also allow them to drop in as many new characters as they wanted for an enhanced port without needing to remake the GUI at all.

Well whatever they choose to do with the Port im sure they will be explicit about it

They could be right. This could just be a Complete Edition. One and Done

Im expecting them to follow a different more modern and flexible path though

 

[IntelliHeath]

So...you're saying ridley has a chance this time.

Nope, he's completely dead. RIP Ridley supporters

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Yea, they're done with DLC.

But the same system they set up to handle DLC would also allow them to drop in as many new characters as they wanted for an enhanced port without needing to remake the GUI at all.

They set up the menu to handle 20+ more characters than the game has. Stages are the same. There would have been no DLC situation that required them to set up the menu for over 80 characters, but they did it anyway.

They're done making new content for the game. Period. Expect a straight port with all the DLC packaged in being its main selling point.

 

[Coffee Dog]

Wouldn't be Sakurai's first brush with wordplay (remember how Ness was in every Smash game "up until now").

I'd rather not waste money on buying Corrin and Bayo because of wordplay.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

They're done making new content for the game. Period. Expect a straight port with all the DLC packaged in being its main selling point.

I didn't realize we had an employee of Namco on Gaf, my mistake

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

I didn't realize we had an employee of Namco on Gaf, my mistake

I wish. If I did everyone would get a copy of Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures.

I'm just being realistic here though.

 

[georly]

Oh oh, I know what I want the most out of smash for NX.

A fixed character select screen. No clone corner. No DLC corner. Everyone with their franchise.