Hell no he isn't.
Street Fighter V Beta IV Thread: Jan 30-31
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Hell no he isn't.
Stone Ocean
Member
You're acting as if Bison is shit tier which he is not.
If you want to call Birdie a zoner he's got great AAs too. Who else in this beta would you call a zoner besides maybe Vega (who I haven't messed with very much but seems to also have good AA options)?
You are correct, looks like he hasn't been active on gaf for a few years though
Did I just play your Dhalsim? GGs.
Nope not me haven't touched sim this beta, strictly Laura this time out.
Chronospherics
Member
Really not understanding this game anymore, or at least my character.
I have no clue what I'm supposed to be doing with Rashid. Just learnt a lesson from a Karin player, his light spinning mixer is unsafe even on hit? Unless it was lag. Either way, it seems to put you at a frame disadvantage on block, which makes me wonder why you would play the character when others like Chun, Karin and Cammy can pressure with better normals.
Rashid has some gimmicks with his vskill, and high/low mixups but these stop being useful the better my opponent is, so they will not be viable sources of damage in the long-term, as better (those with 1500+ lp) just tend to block them.
On his cr.mk it feels as though its hurtbox extends further than the hitbox, at the very minimum it the hitbox does not extend as far as the his foot on his model, which is in contrast to most moves which are pretty accurate or extend further than their model shows.
So what do I do with Rashid? He seems weak at mid-range zoning, because his projectiles do not cover the full screen, and weak up close. His mixup game feels as though its his only strength, but isn't that intimidating for better players. Why play someone like this when characters like Nash are much more solid, all round?
I have no clue what I'm supposed to be doing with Rashid. Just learnt a lesson from a Karin player, his light spinning mixer is unsafe even on hit? Unless it was lag. Either way, it seems to put you at a frame disadvantage on block, which makes me wonder why you would play the character when others like Chun, Karin and Cammy can pressure with better normals.
Rashid has some gimmicks with his vskill, and high/low mixups but these stop being useful the better my opponent is, so they will not be viable sources of damage in the long-term, as better (those with 1500+ lp) just tend to block them.
On his cr.mk it feels as though its hurtbox extends further than the hitbox, at the very minimum it the hitbox does not extend as far as the his foot on his model, which is in contrast to most moves which are pretty accurate or extend further than their model shows.
So what do I do with Rashid? He seems weak at mid-range zoning, because his projectiles do not cover the full screen, and weak up close. His mixup game feels as though its his only strength, but isn't that intimidating for better players. Why play someone like this when characters like Nash are much more solid, all round?
Karin must be a zoner then
Karin's s.hp (i think?) has been stuffing my jump ins a lot lately.
From a decent distance, both st HP and c. HP are pretty good, but up close she's free.
It's by design, of course, but yeah, they're very situational.
Fernando Fernandez
Member
Got my first ever abuse message on PS4 just a minute ago. Do lag switches even exist these days?
direct_quote
Member
I'd agree he isn't terrible, but a lot of his stuff is unsafe.
How does anyone spend money on a lag switch and feel good about themselves?
i think his AAs were a little more generous in previous betas. right now he's gotta be on point to control the air, but the rewards are quite good if he is (air throw with no height restriction to get space, crush counter from RH, anti-air vtrigger for big damage). his AA potential is there but there no ez AA button (cr. HP was almost feeling that way in previous betas).
TheTylerRob
Member
Just talk trash back. It's my favorite part of sf lol
lucebuce12
Member
Just message back "?"
Fernando Fernandez
Member
That's what I got accused of </3 - shows I'm getting better though!
I messaged back that Ellie from Last of Us smilie with her shrugging.
lucebuce12
Member
ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
bytemovies
Member
Does anyone else play Cammy on here? I'm hoping some other players might have some tips on combos with her other than Normals -> Spiral Arrow -> EX Cannon Spike. I'd dont have a lot of combos that hit mid and as such crouching block defensive players cause me grief. None of the Cammy's I've played online though seem to have embraced her MP+MK Spin Attack though which is pretty good at keeping pressure up if you connect and I think is neutral on block. Also haven't mastered using her QCF+P to its full potential, but it helps make me less predictable since I only have a handful of moves I'm consistent with atm so once I start getting punished on Spiral Arrow I try to do air crossups until I can get V Trigger and use that for a combo opening.
CountBlack
Member
ggs fragment, honest to god I'm teching those throws
was I skipping on your side? you were teleporting a bit for me
was I skipping on your side? you were teleporting a bit for me
Bobby Roberts
Banned
just got to 1000 club right now. freaking ps4 pad makes my hand hurt. the triggers has this sharp bit of plastic at the bottom that really digs into my right middle finger.
salt might carry over too depending on your experiences
Karsticles
Member
Please take a moment and read.
Probably mid, and with real problems.
Surprisingly enough, the DualShock 4 is getting better for me to handle. All the pain I used to get in my left thumb just kinda went away. Helps that the grips are also great.
Hit Square, go to ranked matches.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
I stopped last night @ about 1200, forget exact #. Had to stop playing but didn't feel I hit a wall or anything. Even if I did, it wouldn't matter. Gotta keep at it---not for LP, mind you. Cuz the game is fun as hell.
Karsticles
Member
Light tornado, unmashed, is negative 1 or 2, which isn't immediately punishable but you put yourself in a bad position. If you mash, it's worse and definitely punishable.
I'm only ok with him, but I tend to try to keep people out with his fireball, always antiair, and poke with his standing mk. Jab jab light tornado is an ok hit confirm, but it doesn't do much damage. Pressure on wake up with d.fp, sprinkle with throws and overhead.
With his vtrigger, I try to wait until they're semi cornered, and go for the high low mixup. If you time it right so the tornado hits immediately after, you get the juggle into ex kick or super.
Main punish is d.fp -> s.mp xx EX kick into mp tornado (fp tornado if in the corner, ex tornado if you need extra damage).
That's essentially my game plan with him. Haven't found a use for his f.mp move.
Karsticles
Member
They're attack grabs, and they're unsafe.
Simo
Member
Ah there it is! Thanks so much!
Sorry I meant under the CFN and the Replays section. You can view other fighters entire matches and control the playback and view various data...just couldn't figure out how to set up some of my own replays. lol
Please take a moment and read.
I have man. And even listed the zoners. It may not be truth-retaining or whatever you want to call it, but it sure makes more sense than what you said.
Already Torn
Banned
I'm really feeling this roster. I want to play almost all of the characters even if I'm going to be garbage with some of them. Like I knew I'd like Gief and Vega, but then I see Ken's intro and I want to play as him and I'm interested in Mika even though I can't use her at all. Then you get trashed by characters I'd never have any interest at all in like Laura and I want to try her out. And then you see that Chun Li might be good and you want to play as her.
Too many options, and the DLC isn't even out
Oddly the only character I have zero desire to play as right now is Dhalsim who I was excited for, I'm gonna wait until other people figure him out and then jump on maybe. I'm not huge on Ryu, Karin, Bison, or Birdie either, but I'm glad they're all here.
Too many options, and the DLC isn't even out
Oddly the only character I have zero desire to play as right now is Dhalsim who I was excited for, I'm gonna wait until other people figure him out and then jump on maybe. I'm not huge on Ryu, Karin, Bison, or Birdie either, but I'm glad they're all here.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
GG. And nah, I didn't notice anything on my end.
Karsticles
Member
I don't know how to help you understand the sentence, then.
