The New Hampshire Primary |Feb 9|: Live Free or Die

Status
Not open for further replies.
This. So much this. I'm black and I don't totally understand the support for Hillary among a lot of my peers. We've had incremental change for 8 years. How's that worked for black people in America?

Doing pretty well down here in Atlanta. The black middle class in this city isn't where it was before the recession, but its gone really well.

Has things got worse for black americans where you are at?
 
Yeah kind of disappointed by this speech. Pretty much like all of his speeches before. You'd never guess he just won a state.
 
I think people are making too much of Kasich's performance here. He's outperforming his polling average so far, but not by that much. He's been polling better in New Hampshire than elsewhere for a while. He's going to need a big boost from this to be a serious contender.
 
I'm black and I support Hilary, wanna fight?

I'm black, and if Hillary wins, I can live with that. I will certainly vote for her in the general election assuming she wins the nomination. I just hope that black people who support Hillary aren't doing it because they liked Bill because, first of all, Hillary isn't Bill and second of all, even if she were, Bill was a shitty president for black folks.
 
I still don't get how the Democrats don't have a more marketable candidate. Their primary platform seems to just be "well we'll try to be almost as good as Obama was."

We have plenty of candidates but many of them see this cycle as belonging to Hilary and don't want pit themselves against her.
 
And now NH and it's 4 Electoral votes is politically insignificant for 4 years now. Thanks for visiting and ruining traffic everyone. Love ya, peace.
 
Yeah kind of disappointed by this speech. Pretty much like all of his speeches before. You'd never guess he just won a state.

Do we know who writes his speeches? He should hire someone new to work with him. His campaign ideas are pretty clear at this point, it's time to freshen things up.
 
They'll both have issues getting stuff passed but I appreciate that she isn't promising the stars. I'm more concerned that there will be a bigger backlash among young voters when Bernie can't get his plans passed because of higher, unjustified, expectations.

And maybe that will drive young voters to finally show up for Midterms and get rid of these hacks in Congress that vote against everything out of spite. That's one of the biggest reasons I support Sanders. He's willing to eat 2 years of failure to achieve if it means putting the stubborn and ineffective Republicans (and some Democrats) in the spotlight.

When he talks about a political revolution, it isn't just putting a liberal\progressive in the White House, it's making changes at every level of Government to adhere to the interests of the people. I would be fine with Hillary in office, but she's going to concede ground to the Republicans in congress just to give the illusion of being bipartisan and a great negotiator. You know what bipartisan has meant since the 80's? Republicans getting 80% of what they want while Democrats try and explain why the 20% they got isn't such a shit deal.

I'm tired of that crap. If we have to suffer through 2 years of Republican stonewalling a Sanders administration, but can get a huge turnout for the 2018 midterms to dethrone a ton of these relics with crap voting records, I'm all for it.
 
i bet when this campaign started Hillary thought she'd be setting the tone, but she's had to react to bernie's new narative every step of the way

today she came out hard against citizens united and money in politics
 
This might be the only chance he gets to do a victory speech, so he's allowed to enjoy himself a little. Let him rant. He might win a few other states, but on days with multiple primaries where Clinton would take the overall delegate win.

I wish Bernie well, but tonight is almost certainly the apex of his campaign.
 
I'm black, and if Hillary wins, I can live with that. I will certainly vote for her in the general election assuming she wins the nomination. I just hope that black people who support Hillary aren't doing it because they liked Bill because, first of all, Hillary isn't Bill and second of all, even if she were, Bill was a shitty president for black folks.

I'm supporting Hilary because her views align with my own and I don't think Bernie Sanders has shown the experience necessary to be President, it's hard to pin down his response to anything other than his stump.
 
And there it is.

Please outline for me how Bernie is going to pass any of his relatively radical ideas?

You act like Clinton being a corporate shill isn't a known thing? Wow you really trapped me there!



To the 2nd part of your post:


And there it is. Typical Clinton supporter not wanting to push for hard things because they are hard.
 
Sorry, what? You find dogged and overly incessant pragmatism/realism/cynicism more aggravating than diet racism? We literally just had a poster say minorities don't live for Bernie because they're ignorant.

How do these two compare?

In terms of content one is worse, but "Bernie Bros" are a small minority to the point of nigh irrelevancy. It honestly feels more like a narrative people are trying to push than an actually statistically relevant group, and yes, when someone has a large amount of young, internet savvy fans, you will see this small minority more on the internet than the small minority of Clinton supporters who are this way.

What you WILL see are Clinton fans campaigning on a platform of "just wait" and "not realistic," even going so far as to accuse Sanders supporters (including women) of being sexist for not backing Hillary based on nothing but gender. It comes off as extremely obnoxious with undertones of desperation. So considering how much more prevalent this behavior seems to be from Clinton supporters online, I could see why he finds it worse.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom