Omnistalgic
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Yeah, and if you have a main, good idea to watch one of the top players of that particularly character. I main Ken, and watch Momochi for example.
Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC
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I might get the game today, I dunno yet but it's taking a while here in Peru, as games usually arrive early (5 days to a week early). Say I am playing through Story Mode and Survival and get some Fight Money, will I keep it from now on? What if Capcom decides to reset the whole thing right before launch? :/
U guys are getting on this dude for saying that, but when Arturo and SnakeEyez and Infiltration and Desk said some equally silly/goofy/09er shit the sky was falling, lol.
Stone Ocean
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If they reset it deleting your save and doing them again should do the trick.
Not me, I made fun of people being worried about those impressions on every single opportunity lol
Yeah, it won't be hard, it's just tedious. Not a fan of having to unlock stuff, especially in some past games where you had at least 6 colors from the beginning. It was more annoying in SSF4 due to the roster size though. And for tourney goers it can be kinda annoying not having your color available because they didn't unlock it.
They should, but I'm skeptical some of them will.
It's going to be interesting to see how this compares to Splatoon reviews, which some complained was missing content/features that were promised to be patched in later.
Omnistalgic
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I’m ok with that as long as they update them, which many sites don’t. That’s what I have a problem with. If you don’t have a rotating review process, then you should judge the game on its own merits. A fighting game, is about how good and competitive the fighting is. And so far, I don’t think a broken character has been discovered, it’s extremely hard to get a tight level of balance out of the gate in fighters. Capcom may have done that here, but that’s not exciting, because “where are all the modes??” Oh, gotta wait 3 weeks for a new one? 6/10.
I’m sorry, this is a game for me, and I’m just sticking up for the other side of the fence here. I’m probably going to spend no more than $30 on the game over the course of its life because that’s how much I’m going to play it. The value for me is ridiculous, its never going to leave my PS4’s HDD.
Ok, that’s it, I’m done championing SF! Have fun guys/gals and enjoy! Catch me online, will likely keep Omnistalgic as my user name but might change it to OmniSmilez or OmniKen dunno.
TheSpoiler
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Well, you are pretty much fighting the systems in place far less than before, so you are able to get to the "meat" of the game faster. In addition to that, fundies are far more important than bullshit tactics, so you'll be throwing out and spacing out things instead of worrying about hitting links all the time and executing combos.
That isn't to say those things aren't there, they just are more about fighting the opponent rather than spending hours grinding it out.
And your execution can still drop in a match. Maybe even sometimes moreso with SFV, since you can't rely on Ultras/easy backdashes/whatever, and the damage is so high that you don't have many opportunities to fuck up hard. So breaking midmatch is going to be more common, and from that, the game is going to be more stressful, and more thoughtout per match.
As for how characters play, most of them seem to be able to be used in different ways, rather than just the most optimal formats. I mean, I bet there will be optimal ways to play characters, but the range is going to be more than SF4, where if you played someone in a different way, you were looking for that L.
Like, you can play Ryu as a stun monster, or defensively and rely on that parry more often. Or mix and match. Ken MIGHT be better at long range rather than rushdown primarily, and Mika's corner game is better than elsewhere, but for the latter, it's about getting to the corner that's the fun part.
So basically, they want you to get in the game faster so you can start fighting real people and start learning your style and the style of others, and focus on that mental game more often than not rather than worrying about grinding out combos and dialing those in. Which you will still do, but it'll be more about the application rather than the length.
Scrub Mcgrubb
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Well guaranteed people will try to hack fight money... we'll see if Capcom gets caught with their pants down like with the data mine.
They've either proactively taken measures beyond the already cracked encryption key like server side authentication... or they're about to get blown up and will have to do a lot of reactive changes post launch.
Ah, that's good. I'll mess around those modes when I get my copy then.
Stone Ocean
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding going by those Famitsu images each survival difficulty unlocks different numbers of colors with hard unlocking like 4.
Some of them also said they missed invincible back dashes and the like so lol
This seems like such a catch 22 for the developers of this game. Focus pretty hard on betas that make sure netcode is quality. The base players that will be around for years will want that most. Get that done, but have nearly everything else meaningful for the type of player you hope to draw in be missing from the jump because of that. So strange.
It sounds like FM transactions are still handled through their in-game store (hence not being able to buy the unlocked alternate costumes until the store is enabled in March), so I don't know what you could really accomplish with client-side fuckery. We've already heard some folks mention all their FM "reset" in these pre-release days so that value seems associated to your CFN account on their end.
Until they allow people to just buy them from the shop...
Stone Ocean
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It sounds like Easy unlocks 1 color, Normal 3 and Hard the remaining 4
How long until those numbers are datamined I wonder.
This seems like a decent balance.
I'm surprised that's not what they're doing. If I was Capcom and I created a system where you can buy DLC with in-game currency, I'd have a ton of stuff to funnel that currency away from things that could be purchased with real money. Frankly, I hope they sell like 50 colors per costume for FM.
DiscoShark
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What are you referring to with this? Like special moves and supers took you more time to learn or learning the overarching mechanics?
I think SFV's great strength is that it does away with a lot of the unnecessary execution hurdles that plagued SFIV. I can focus on using all of my character's tools optimally vs. grinding out the arbitrarily difficult link I need to have access to to have a decent hit confirm. There are still timing based combos but they're not obnoxiously difficult to do.
Zombegoast
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I'm actually afraid that the patch would be the stunt the MKX pulled
Scrub Mcgrubb
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well considering that color palettes are just hex values in this game rather than a full blown texture map- that's a pretty feasible thing for them to do.
... although that does mean you don't get alt colors with funky patterns or whatever- for better or worse
What happened with MKX?
Yeah. Although as I mentioned a page or so back I did this over the last couple of days and woke up today with all my fight money, titles, and alt colours gone. Hard reset.
Weirdly it still showed my completion stats for story and survival modes, but I'd lost all the rewards. Won't be doing it again until after launch.
They could've actually done this on Steam and push the release to march. Guess that would make them look bad, though
Damn, that's rough. I'm glad I'm not getting the game till Tuesday (although I still really want to play it). Hopefully this hard reset doesn't happen at launch accidently or something.
Stone Ocean
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Made things harder to unlock in a patch shortly after release.
Primethius
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KhalilSyncere
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Haha! I told you dawg. Good to see you've come to the realization of all this now.
Spinosaurus
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Guess I'm fortunate that the colour I'm using for my main is the default.
DiscoShark
Banned
I worry that the real reason we're not seeing anything from the Capcom store until after a month is so that they can gauge how much Fight Money people are earning in that time and tune the prices of costumes/characters based on that amount.
The only extra colours I like on a character is Ken so I'll only have to do the 90 rounds for just him, so you could say I'm quite fortunate too.
That was debunked, I think. I believe it was 'first time you get a larger amount, after that the same thing provides a lesser amount.'
No, the console date is set in stone for months, can't change that. But I guess there are physical PC copies as well? Who knows. The game is too bare-bones for a $60 release though, that's for sure.
Stone Ocean
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White Cammy is best Cammy
Eh, they have a ceiling on characters since whatever price they go with the amount you get from character stories needs to cover it as they have promised doing that will net you enough for one character.
Primethius
Banned
ha the main color is the orange can't wait.
Stone Ocean
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I think you're supposed to get it in chunks after beating each story.
Scrub Mcgrubb
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no... you get fight money from each character you beat
NoctisVsStar
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White ryu goat
sixteen-bit
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I wonder if tourneys will switch over to PC (non-CPT events, of course)
Stone Ocean
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They won't, no tournament is gonna afford to get several mid-high end PC setups.
Tizoc
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Nope, not at the moment.
Garrett Hawke
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I'm sure most already know but I played the beta on PC so the dithered shadows on PS4 are a bit of a surprise for me 
still looks good though. Also I haven't got the 6gb patch yet (it's DLing atm) but there's frame drops even in Training mode :/
still looks good though. Also I haven't got the 6gb patch yet (it's DLing atm) but there's frame drops even in Training mode :/I'm sure Capcom will be on top of things in a timely manner. They, after all, fixed the horrible PS4 version of USF4 we got at launch.