Always thought SF6 looked dated even at launch unlike SF4 and 5. Made sense considering it's a last gen game that launched 3 years after current gen started.
The issue with the Series S was the 10GB of ram. The Switch 2 has 12GB of ram so it might not be a problem.
that's freaking impressive i guess if i get one handle the switch 2 is looking pretty pretty good.
Yes, I forgot that PS5 GPU a custom RDNA2, my bad.
No problem. This was about RDNA 2 in general though.
they can do ports, they put max payne on the gba once and is a very good port considering the diferences of capability by the time, but say they can just do a port whitout no working whatsoever for a very know very heavy cpu game is too muchThere's a lot of "won't happen" so far since we began talking about switch 2 and a lot of pillars are cracking.
the issue was always the cpu, i was talking here about the cpu a few months back, in the case of gpu i always expect that he could even surpass in dock mode, after all that is the nvidia field, so in games that use less cpu he can do a good job
Arm smartphone CPU, it is very bad compared to the x86 on the consoles, people will learn over time
It's only bad because of the low clocks. The IPC itself is decent.
Most people:
I guess so, 1 GHz vs 3.5 GHz. The difference is quite big. I wonder to which degree (if) it's faster than a 1.6 GHz jaguar core for example being much newer.
Pre-REEEE Gaf in a nutshell right here.
Imagine if Larian announced Baldur's Gate 3 on Switch 2 after all the trouble they had on Series S
Youll see BG3 on Switch 2 at some point. Won't look as nice as PS5 version of course
Here's some other data that supports it https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/nintendo-survey-reveals-who-s-purchasing-the-switch
He's a known troll on GameFaqs and made about a hundred alts there because people know he does this.
It should be around Skylake's IPC, if the single thread Geekbench 5 figures give an indication. So that would be more than double Jaguar's IPC, and I would expect at 1 GHz the CPU still to be faster than the PS4 Pro's CPU.
It definitely is awesome to have a handheld that performs similarly to recent tethered consoles. So far Switch 2 is exceeding my expectations. There may be trade offs here or there, but that's more than fine. My Steam Deck will be getting far less use now.Crazy how Switch 2 version is at worst on par with Series S, and better in some other areas. I remember when a lot of people were saying that wouldn't be possible even when docked. Guess reality is setting in for 'em
Yeah, when I replayed it in the street fighter collection 2nd impact full screen was amazing.Second Impact in native widescreen even more so.
That's a study from 2017... try again
Keep in mind that it's not just about coding, its about the game itself, otherwise we could be playing modern games on the ps2 or even more on the ps4Deliberately stayed out the thread to see first page reactions.
They did not disappoint.
Great port and it's not even particularly optimized to push Switch 2 to its limits. The PS5 version still obviously looks better, but I did notice some skin texture gradations in Switch 2 footage that doesn't seem present elsewhere. Could be due to color space differences in hardware and some post-processing.
Crazy how Switch 2 version is at worst on par with Series S, and better in some other areas. I remember when a lot of people were saying that wouldn't be possible even when docked. Guess reality is setting in for 'em
Well in terms of pure horsepower yes the Switch 2 CPU is weaker than that of the consoles. But it being "very bad" is kind of contextual. RISC-based CPUs have simpler instructions and load-store architectures than x86 (CISC) processors, and they don't spend cycles on branch prediction (because they don't have that built into the processor). Because of that they can usually run at higher clocks than an equivalent CISC chip while also consuming less power.
So clearly, they have advantages over x86 processors, and whether they perform as sufficiently or not depends on how code is optimized for the chip. You also have to remember, Switch 2 specifically has dedicated hardware for image upscaling (and technically, the Tensor cores can also be used for other AI-driven tasks). Console-wise the only other console with dedicated hardware for upscaling is the PS5 Pro.
Generally speaking, at least when compared to Series S, if both were targeting the same output resolution and framerate, and same general visuals feature set (including RT and image upscaling), the Switch 2 has the advantage. Series S can use its more powerful CPU to try doing certain upscaling and RT tasks in software but it'll be much less efficient that way. What's more, Series S has less RAM and its RAM is technically split into two pools whereas Switch 2 has more RAM that is fully unified.
At the very least, unless talking a poorly optimized port or a game with heavy reliance on x86 instructions that don't have RISC equivalents (or the RISC equivalents require many more cycles to execute), it's reasonable to expect Switch 2 to perform at Series S levels or somewhat better when docked. Undocked is a whole other ballgame, but that's not the subject here.
TBF...SF6 is not pushing the PS5 to its limits. Also fighting games in general are generally not too taxing on hardware performance unless you're cranking the resolutions up to mad amounts.
Or at least it's been that way for the past several generations. I think the last time fighters were visual showcases to push a hardware was PS1/Saturn and arguably OG Xbox with DOA3 & Ultimate.
Can the Tensor cores be used for CPU tasks?Deliberately stayed out the thread to see first page reactions.
They did not disappoint.
Great port and it's not even particularly optimized to push Switch 2 to its limits. The PS5 version still obviously looks better, but I did notice some skin texture gradations in Switch 2 footage that doesn't seem present elsewhere. Could be due to color space differences in hardware and some post-processing.
Crazy how Switch 2 version is at worst on par with Series S, and better in some other areas. I remember when a lot of people were saying that wouldn't be possible even when docked. Guess reality is setting in for 'em
Well in terms of pure horsepower yes the Switch 2 CPU is weaker than that of the consoles. But it being "very bad" is kind of contextual. RISC-based CPUs have simpler instructions and load-store architectures than x86 (CISC) processors, and they don't spend cycles on branch prediction (because they don't have that built into the processor). Because of that they can usually run at higher clocks than an equivalent CISC chip while also consuming less power.
So clearly, they have advantages over x86 processors, and whether they perform as sufficiently or not depends on how code is optimized for the chip. You also have to remember, Switch 2 specifically has dedicated hardware for image upscaling (and technically, the Tensor cores can also be used for other AI-driven tasks). Console-wise the only other console with dedicated hardware for upscaling is the PS5 Pro.
Generally speaking, at least when compared to Series S, if both were targeting the same output resolution and framerate, and same general visuals feature set (including RT and image upscaling), the Switch 2 has the advantage. Series S can use its more powerful CPU to try doing certain upscaling and RT tasks in software but it'll be much less efficient that way. What's more, Series S has less RAM and its RAM is technically split into two pools whereas Switch 2 has more RAM that is fully unified.
At the very least, unless talking a poorly optimized port or a game with heavy reliance on x86 instructions that don't have RISC equivalents (or the RISC equivalents require many more cycles to execute), it's reasonable to expect Switch 2 to perform at Series S levels or somewhat better when docked. Undocked is a whole other ballgame, but that's not the subject here.
TBF...SF6 is not pushing the PS5 to its limits. Also fighting games in general are generally not too taxing on hardware performance unless you're cranking the resolutions up to mad amounts.
Or at least it's been that way for the past several generations. I think the last time fighters were visual showcases to push a hardware was PS1/Saturn and arguably OG Xbox with DOA3 & Ultimate.
Doesn't matter why is but it is, i not attacking the console hardware, he is very capable and we can still see so much beautiful games on him, but he's not as capable as modern desk console CPU
Honestly thought we moved past that but guess not
Unfortunately not. Not even counting that user who is making a particular ass of himself in this thread, I often see people in this place call Nintendo "kiddie" games fairly often. Big, manly men adults can only play games with blood, violence, and naughty words in them, and aren't allowed to enjoy anything else
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To me those people are no different than kids who's trying too hard to be "grownup".Unfortunately not. Not even counting that user who is making a particular ass of himself in this thread, I often see people in this place call Nintendo "kiddie" games fairly often. Big, manly men adults can only play games with blood, violence, and naughty words in them, and aren't allowed to enjoy anything else
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