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[MThanded]

well damn....

 

[ekim]

Any news on launch markets or a site to preorder?

 

[bobbytkc]

That is the real question we should be asking ourselves.

300 headset only and I see oculus and vive scrambling to make a cheaper sku.

 

[benny_a]

Isn't the point of VR that it's going to be super cheap? That's what I remember back then, wth happened?

The Vive was never positioned as the entry VR product.

 

[Noirulus]

never mind lol

 

[MUnited83]

So much for the dream HL3 or Portal 3 announcement to coincide with the Vive's launch. We will likely get more details when the embargo lifts, but those "free" titles at launch are a little disappointing to me. To Rift seems a little more appealing to me at the moment, but I'll probably wait until they are both out and we get a bunch of impressions to pick one.

Job Simulator and Fantastic Contraption are much better experiences than you're giving them credit for, and they showcase greatly how good room tracking, 360° tracking and motion controllers are when all properly integrated. I'd take those titles everytime instead of Portal 3 or HL3 because both of those would never be VR only titles , and so VR on it would just be tacked on. They wouldn't be built for it. Meanwhile these two games Vive comes with are built with every advantage of the Vive in mind and are titles built for VR specifically through and through. They are a actual showcase of what can be achieved in the platform.

 

[ashecitism]

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[BackBackPunch]

-120hz? Nah. Async Timewarp doesn't count (IMO it is good to catch missed frames, not for constant use).

The PSVR display panels supposedly support 120 Hz refresh. I'm sure most games wont hit 120 fps but it does support it natively.

 

[Sydle]

Too much for me. Going to wait until it's around $400.

 

[ekim]

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This answers my questions. Thanks

 

[border]

Was expecting more.

Going to guess PSVR is 500

I don't think they are dumb enough to launch anymore Playstation products at $500.

$350 barebones bundle (online only, perhaps)
$400 camera + Move controller bundle

 

[whitehawk]

Isn't the point of VR that it's going to be super cheap? That's what I remember back then, wth happened?

That's only cardboard and gearvr, which aren't very good.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

800 bucks? What can you actually do with this thing? There's Job Simulator or whatever it's called and what else? Is there any compelling software in the pipeline?

 

[bobbytkc]

That's only cardboard and gearvr, which aren't very good.

luckey positioned the oculus as affordable in the early days.

 

[itsbenoclock]

So I'm guessing PSVR will now be posed as a holiday season gift alongside the console... we'll see a price at E3 and then hopefully somewhere to try it. I still have no experience of VR at all. Oculus and Vive pricing including a PC would be crazy for me. If PSVR worked with PC somehow it would kill...

 

[Defuser]

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South East Asia gets fucked over again. Not like they will buy at such a high price anyway.

 

[shiftplusone]

after tax and shipping, my rift is going to be like 690 bucks


depending on how that goes with the rift, it might very well be a negligible amount to switch.

I'm interested in what purchasing options they offer

 

[RealityCheque]

So once the rift releases it's controller and you buy it, the price difference between the two isn't particularly huge.

The Vive package is definitely a complete one, but it's a lot of money. Certainly enough to keep me on the sidelines for now.

 

[tuxfool]

The PSVR display panels supposedly support 120 Hz refresh. I'm sure most games wont hit 120 fps but it does support it natively.

I doubt any of them will hit it natively. Doing it with Timewarp trades image quality for frame rate (YMMV). I suspect that is the only reason it is there, so one can easily multiply 60fps by 2.

 

[Uncle Moe]

Not surprised by some reactions here.

This is life changing tech. The price will go down in future. Stop bitching about it.

"Life changing" strikes me as hyperbole. The reactions you're seeing are due in part to the fact that a great many people are not yet convinced about the technology's potential.

 

[KingSnake]

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Austria, great!

 

[Octavianus]

Cool, I might get this alongside my free Oculus Rift.

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

Isn't the point of VR that it's going to be super cheap? That's what I remember back then, wth happened?

PC VR? No, it was never going to be super cheap day 1. Mobile VR, absolutely. And of course what is high-end on PC now will eventually be cheap and low-end.

 

[jmga]

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No price for Europe?

 

[ekim]

No price for Europe?

799€ of course.

 

[Nzyme32]

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Nice, but very curious about how international pricing pans out. As a UK geezer, I'd hope they are sub £650 as that would leave the option open to me should I run into some spare cash

 

[Arkanius]

Sony right now:

All Sony have to do is price it between 299-399 and they win.

Sony now know the price of their two competitors. Even 100 dollars lower than the occulus and Sony will still win

Win what exactly? The PC market ?
Lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Isn't the point of VR that it's going to be super cheap? That's what I remember back then, wth happened?

This is definitely 'cheap' if you consider the cost and tech compared to over 20 years ago, lol.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

$800 is honestly not that bad for what seems a greater experience than OR. I own a controller for PC so maybe I'll just go with HTC here because I like the idea of potentially moving about in a VR world.

 

[Backfoggen]

799€ of course.

Lets hope.

 

[Human_me]

Hmm this or a 34" GSync 21:9 monitor... decisions decisions.

 

[Hoo-doo]

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Where's Netherland. I can't find it on the map.

 

[Noirulus]

So, going by Vive's pricing it will take at least 5 more years for VR to gain any traction at all. Mainstream can't afford this stuff until it's in the 200 - 300 dollar range.

 

[UnrealEck]

That is the real question we should be asking ourselves.

Not really. Those who can't afford but just want VR, aren't willing to pay for Rift/Vive or don't/can't have a gaming PC, sure.
For many though, they want PC gaming VR because, well, it's on PC. It comes with the benefits of PC gaming.
I have no idea about the headsets/packages but I'm going to assume a 'you get what you pay for' situation in that Vive will be the overall on-paper superior package to both Rift and PSVR.

 

[CyberPunked]

Sony absolutely domination this generation is going to extend into VR, they are firing on all cylinders and competition being so weak helps them alot aswell.

PS VR has already won its Ps4 all over again.

Edit : HTC I still love you, I hope you can get some money from this <3

 

[jeremiahg]

I'm sure the cost of these VR headsets is justified, but I am a bit concerned that affordability might affect adoption rate, which may delay quality VR software from being developed.

At least there is a low end market too, like Google cardboard and Gear VR. Hopefully a middle market will surface soon.

 

[ashecitism]

Where's Netherland. I can't find it on the map.

On top of the third column.

edit: oh you mean the map lol

 

[Nzyme32]

Isn't the point of VR that it's going to be super cheap? That's what I remember back then, wth happened?

Not for several years no. As with any new tech, enthusiasts enter at the higher price and eventually costs are driven down as things scale over time, then there will be price drops and probably new headsets anyway.

 

[me0wish]

The Vive was never positioned as the entry VR product.

That's only cardboard and gearvr, which aren't very good.

PC VR? No, it was never going to be super cheap day 1. Mobile VR, absolutely. And of course over 5-10 years what is high-end on PC now will eventually be cheap and low-end.

I could swear that one of the reasons that people argued that VR will be the future is because it will be super cheap compared to buying TV. Some Oculus Rift guy said that as well.

This is what I remember, I could be wrong.

 

[FLAguy954]

For what the tech does it seems reasonable. Not that 799 USD isn't a lot.

I agree.

And for you Europeans and Canadians in regards to pricing:

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Preorder starts February 29th.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Welp

PSVR it is.

 

[DouglasteR]

- $ 800
- No Brazil
- Didnt even get mentioned

ffs

 

[Archaix]

I could swear that one of the reasons that people argued that VR will be the future is because it will be super cheap compared to buying TV. Some Oculus Rift guy said that as well.

This is what I remember, I could be wrong.

Cheap accessible consumer VR was the entire point of the Rift kickstarter, then Facebook happened.

 

[MUnited83]

I could swear that one of the reasons that people argued that VR will be the future is because it will be super cheap compared to buying TV. Some Oculus Rift guy said that as well.

This is what I remember, I could be wrong.

Go and check how HD and UHD TVs were initially priced.

 

[tuxfool]

not schadenfreude, but im legit surprised vhugi survived this long lol

That statement earlier definitely had the bold tone of a survivor.

 

[Vuze]

Hmm this or a 34" GSync 21:9 monitor... decisions decisions.

Which of those is 800 bucks only?

 

[Mihos]

When can I preorder?

 

[Wag]

So what games support it? I'm genuinely curious. Are they the same games as the Rift or are they different?

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

I could swear that one of the reasons that people argued that VR will be the future is because it will be super cheap compared to buying TV. Some Oculus Rift guy said that as well.

This is what I remember, I could be wrong.

It really depends on the timescale you're talking about. And the market. Mobile VR is already super cheap. PC/Console VR will be super cheap over the next 10 years. It doesn't have to be super cheap in the first year to be part of the future.

So what games support it? I'm genuinely curious. Are they the same games as the Rift or are they different?

Here's a list of currently confirmed games for all platforms.