Eurogamer: AC art used for Uncharted 4 trailer (Up: Naughty Dog responds)

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msdstc said:
in what world would this pass as fair use? It's literally identical.



Go back and read the thread, or do you want me to link to specific posts? I said this is a terrible look for Naughty Dog if true and the hounds came out to make sure there was damage control. People were arguing for naughty even IF they knowingly stole it. I agree accidents happen and this, while big given how blatant, is RELATIVELY minor in that the only person who would notice would be the artist himself (and hey that's who pointed it out).

People were arguing that the artist should be happy for the "exposure" or honored that it got put in such a good game. That is disgusting.
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Right, I'm not denying those posters exist. But if I made a post that said:

"Looks like everyone is using this as an excuse to shit on ND."

It would be a pretty generalized and stupid post. But you can bet that I can bring up specific posts from this thread to back that example up.
 
bluexy said:
Love all the Illuminati fearing folk in here sweating to say that this was some sort of coordinated and well executed plot from Naughty Dog.

Like some random beach photo in a trailer for 2 seconds is Naughty Dog's Oceans Eleven casino heist shit, an 800x600 png in the midst of a CG sequence that likely cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Johnny Cochran over here saying, "If the pirate's missing, it shows premeditation and malice aforethought. Is Naughty Dog actually Digital Homicide? I've never seen them in the same room. Have you?"
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Hahaha.
 
Looks a lot like a Photoshop piece I did in my Color & Form class in college about 10 years ago.

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Oh my, at first I thought it was just a nice picture and some kind of odd nod (especially with the pirate comment in the trailer). This is pretty hilarious though, kind of took the topic away from how good the trailer was haha!
 
Google image search has made certain jobs (including mine) a lot easier, but you must use it wisely :P

Not sure why ND didn't just capture an image of the island from their own game and proceeded to put it through Photoshop filters though.
 
Some people going to super embarassing lengths to rationalise this.

"It's an easter egg!"
"It's a coincidence!"
"It's not even the same, there's no pirate!"
"Ubisoft probably licenced it to them!"

It's hardly the crime of the century but, c'mon brehs.
 
Southwark said:
As pretty as it looks, I can't be sure how many other assets have been lifted, and I'd prefer not to give my money to plagiarists.

I guess if they had stolen from an indie game instead of an Ubi Soft title, people would be more upset.
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Yes, please don't buy the game.

Smh, some people's comments here are just embarrassing.
 
I'm glad to see they acted on this pretty quickly. But man the excuses and damage control some people are vomiting on several websites is just cringy...
 
I imagine that when the game comes out some people will be like "Great game but I can't really appreciate it because of Naughty Dog making a mistake by stealing art!"

That was a joke

What if having that image was intentonal? Why is it such a big deal? If someone did that in a movie, it would just be seen as intertextuality or a reference.
 
vulva said:
That's probably something that should be worked out between the artist and ND, possibly ubisoft and ND if the art was owned by them. It's not my job to negotiate between the two parties.
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They're not going to broadcast that. Any settlement between the two is going to be private, and in a case like this, their lawyers have probably already talked. Also financial compensation is a tricky prospect at this stage since the stolen artwork has only appeared in a free trailer. Had it gone unnoticed until the actual release and they made money with this stolen asset, then Sony would definitely have had to pay.
 
Glad they fixed and apologised for the fuckup. Defenders should be ashamed and I bet the people that hate ND guts don't care they remidied the issue.
 
vulva said:
That's probably something that should be worked out between the artist and ND, possibly ubisoft and ND if the art was owned by them. It's not my job to negotiate between the two parties.
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Yeah, but throw us a figure, to kinda get and idea the damage done to the artist.
 
PapaJustify said:
With that you are implying that the ND artist had evil intentions rather than this being an regrettable oversight not checking where the picture originally came from.
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I'm not sure what the artists intentions were but I don't think you'll find many professional artists using another persons work for a professional project without at least looking to credit the original artist.
 
ND don't look too bad here, it was probably some outsourcing mistake, they admitted they fucked up, rectified it quickly and have put out an official statement apologizing to all parties

the only people who came out looking bad were the fanboys trying to play it down and defend them lol
 
godelsmetric said:
defendant in plagiarism case: 'you know this really is an asinine non-issue, the person whose work i copied without citation could have been cited at the end of my work'
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Professor confronts college student on a paragraph written word for word from another essay without reference: "It's just an easter egg to that other essay!"

ND made a mistake, and they owned up to it. People seem to try and paint it as a non issue, but they did make a mistake.
 
vulva said:
They could have paid the artist they stole from, for one.
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That artwork almost for sure doesn't belong to person who painted it. It's Ubisoft's property, and while I suppose they could have paid Ubisoft to use it, it was clearly used by mistake and it would make no sense to pay to use art from a different game. Right now, they could arrange some kind of damages payout to Ubisoft but that kind of thing would be layers talking to lawyers and it would never be made public.
 
XANDER CAGE said:
I'm also curious if the shot we see after the zoom in on the painting is going to have to be changed too - I didn't quite see, was it clearly based on the Assassin's Creed art or was it not meant to be a direct transition? That's the bigger screwup if any actual assets were based on that art.
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There are similarities, but I think those could be written off as superficial. I don't think they modeled the level after the AC concept art.

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XANDER CAGE said:
You should always know exactly where everything came from in a thing you're selling. That's not an excuse. Unless a painting is in the public domain, no one's art is just "random."
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I didn't say it was an excuse nor that they were right... I just said they probably didn't know it was from another game.
 
c0de said:
But why even put a placeholder from a different game at all?
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In a lot of art industries people often have inspiration/vision boards full of other artists work that they can draw inspiration from and use as placeholders. Someone probably did a rough-cut of the trailer using placeholders until the final art was finished/decided upon, and this particular shot was probably forgotten to have its art replaced.
 
iNvid02 said:
ND don't look too bad here, it was probably some outsourcing mistake, they admitted they fucked up, rectified it quickly and have put out an official statement apologizing to all parties

the only people who came out looking bad were the fanboys trying to play it down and defend them lol
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I'd say everyone involved(DC groupies, and outrage patrol) look pretty childish.
 
vulva said:
Nah, once it's in the public eye they know being quiet would be more harmful, especially with how nitpicky gamers are. The bare minimum is a token apology.
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I disagree, alot of video game publishers/developers are of the believe that ignoring = disapearing. Also if by gamer you mean forumdwellers like us then sure, the game would have sold the same no matter how they handled this.
 
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