Eurogamer: AC art used for Uncharted 4 trailer (Up: Naughty Dog responds)

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I wonder who got fired?

I'm really surprised one picture caused this much buzz. ND could have played it a bit better though and call it a "nod to Ubisoft and their great series. Let's be friends, ok?"

Can Ubisoft sue them? I still think Ubisoft is as evil as EA.
 
Rhaknar said:
what am I looking at?
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It's a level in Resistance 2. I can't remember the exact plot but I think you are on a ship and can look out into the world. Someone on the internet took a random screenshot and added google logos because the backgrounds look like an aerial map.

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AmaterasuOni said:
I wonder who got fired?

I'm really surprised one picture caused this much buzz. ND could have played it a bit better though and call it a "nod to Ubisoft and their great series. Let's be friends, ok?"

Can Ubisoft sue them? I still think Ubisoft is as evil as EA.
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no one would believe that...wait nevermind
 
AmaterasuOni said:
I wonder who got fired?

I'm really surprised one picture caused this much buzz. ND could have played it a bit better though and call it a "nod to Ubisoft and their great series. Let's be friends, ok?"

Can Ubisoft sue them? I still think Ubisoft is as evil as EA.
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Yes Ubsisoft would really want to piss off the platform generating the most revenue for them this generation over a piece of concept art in a trailer....
 
icespide said:
good on ND for making this right. what else were people expecting?
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People we putting ND on a high pedestal saying that others were making too big of a deal out of it. But at the same time dogging on Bioware with the stock photo edits for Mass Effect. But nobody knew if that was the final image or not, so it was a constant back and forth.

It's expected that they would fix it, I'm just glad that they were called out on it to make it right and had a follow up.
 
It's a painting. On a wall. A painting on a wall in a video game.

Are the responses in here real or are you guys joking? I can't tell. This is the worst case of dissonance I've ever felt on NeoGAF.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I don't think you guys realize how easy it is to make a mistake like this.
Where the concept art likely came from was from early pre-production. With any project whether is a commercial, movie, video game you do loose story boards. These are almost always done to establish mood and basic flow of what your hoping to achieve. Its mostly a combination of concept art that is drawn and other stuff that is found. Its quickly edited to make it fit the idea of the shot your going for. Once thats done you scrap all the stuff you didn't make and start finalizing the vision with in house or bought assets. At this point the artist has a staggering amount of concept work finished and somehow along the lines made the mistake of not removing this piece it. They need some art over the wall its his job to know but he doesn't remember. Done

Yes he should have caught it and yes it still sucks but its much easier than you would ever imagine. We have sent out footage with branding still in the shot and had to do emergency overnight editing because someone just overlooked it.
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people need reference materials a lot more often than not so yeah it can be easy to mistake it

if you look through a ton of art work you will generally see there are 1,000s of people doing similar looks and styles with paints digitally as well. most of them look exactly the same in basic style and feel. for movies, games whatever. the look is not very different.
 
God the U4 review thread is going to be legendary based on this thread alone XD

Here's my prediction:
MT: 95 < = "Everyone is a ND fanboy, they keep making the same game with prettier graphics, NeoGaf GOTY"
MT: < 95 = "Neil/Bruce have failed, U3 was better, #bringAmyback"
 
iNvid02 said:
maybe thats them seeing this as a rare chance to go against the status quo without issue i dunno, you don't see those guys appear too often so its a change of pace i suppose

but personally i couldn't take the posts saying naughty dog intended this or calling for someone to get fired over it seriously, whereas the other parties come across firmly believing what they are typing out
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Of course someone should get fired for it. Not someone high up though, just the person that who thought it would be a good idea to pass that off as their own artwork, and didn't tell their co-workers that it was from another game. It's vile and despicable behavior and has no place in an industry of professionals. It was probably a new hire, someone without much experience. Hopefully they learn the hard way that ethics matter.
 
tuna_love said:
i thought they were gods?
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cpp_is_king said:
Of course someone should get fired for it. Not someone high up though, just the person that who thought it would be a good idea to pass that off as their own artwork, and didn't tell their co-workers that it was from another game. It's vile and despicable behavior and has no place in an industry of professionals. It was probably a new hire, someone without much experience. Hopefully they learn the hard way that ethics matter.
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You act as if you have it all figured out, lol. Off with their heads, I read minds.

It could have been as someone told to get placeholders, who thought they had 'for commercial use with modifications' clicked on Google search. It could have been that simple.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I don't think you guys realize how easy it is to make a mistake like this.
Where the concept art likely came from was from early pre-production. With any project whether is a commercial, movie, video game you do loose story boards. These are almost always done to establish mood and basic flow of what your hoping to achieve. Its mostly a combination of concept art that is drawn and other stuff that is found. Its quickly edited to make it fit the idea of the shot your going for. Once thats done you scrap all the stuff you didn't make and start finalizing the vision with in house or bought assets. At this point the artist has a staggering amount of concept work finished and somehow along the lines made the mistake of not removing this piece it. They need some art over the wall its his job to know but he doesn't remember. Done

Yes he should have caught it and yes it still sucks but its much easier than you would ever imagine. We have sent out footage with branding still in the shot and had to do emergency overnight editing because someone just overlooked it.
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This is likely exactly what happened. That's what I assumed as soon I read this thread, and how quickly ND fixed it probably supports this.
 
AmaterasuOni said:
I wonder who got fired?

I'm really surprised one picture caused this much buzz. ND could have played it a bit better though and call it a "nod to Ubisoft and their great series. Let's be friends, ok?"

Can Ubisoft sue them? I still think Ubisoft is as evil as EA.
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I'm no loyyar but I bet they could. ND and Sony used their property to advertise a product without permission. Now, will they? Zero chance. That would be a lot of fuss over nothing.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I don't think you guys realize how easy it is to make a mistake like this.
Where the concept art likely came from was from early pre-production. With any project whether is a commercial, movie, video game you do loose story boards. These are almost always done to establish mood and basic flow of what your hoping to achieve. Its mostly a combination of concept art that is drawn and other stuff that is found. Its quickly edited to make it fit the idea of the shot your going for. Once thats done you scrap all the stuff you didn't make and start finalizing the vision with in house or bought assets. At this point the artist has a staggering amount of concept work finished and somehow along the lines made the mistake of not removing this piece it. They need some art over the wall its his job to know but he doesn't remember. Done

Yes he should have caught it and yes it still sucks but its much easier than you would ever imagine. We have sent out footage with branding still in the shot and had to do emergency overnight editing because someone just overlooked it.
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I believe what happened was negligence on somebody who they outsourced. That being said that guy probably didn't take caution, because it's very easy to NOT take copyrighted work if you just turn on the creative commons.
 
GameAddict411 said:
What ND did is wrong and there is nothing to justify it. It's good they issued an official apology and I hope someone gets fired for doing this. It's really embarrassing for the studio that is known to make incredible games resort to stealing art(shitty too). It's not the standard that I hold Naughty Dog to.
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If you walked out of a store, realized you forgot to pay for an item you were absent-mindedly holding, ran back in and paid for it, are you a thief?
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I don't think you guys realize how easy it is to make a mistake like this.
Where the concept art likely came from was from early pre-production. With any project whether is a commercial, movie, video game you do loose story boards. These are almost always done to establish mood and basic flow of what your hoping to achieve. Its mostly a combination of concept art that is drawn and other stuff that is found. Its quickly edited to make it fit the idea of the shot your going for. Once thats done you scrap all the stuff you didn't make and start finalizing the vision with in house or bought assets. At this point the artist has a staggering amount of concept work finished and somehow along the lines made the mistake of not removing this piece it. They need some art over the wall its his job to know but he doesn't remember. Done

Yes he should have caught it and yes it still sucks but its much easier than you would ever imagine. We have sent out footage with branding still in the shot and had to do emergency overnight editing because someone just overlooked it.
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If i were Druckman, I would've been a lot more paranoid and cautious about checking over the art department after TLOU Boston Map debacle.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I don't think you guys realize how easy it is to make a mistake like this.
Where the concept art likely came from was from early pre-production. With any project whether is a commercial, movie, video game you do loose story boards. These are almost always done to establish mood and basic flow of what your hoping to achieve. Its mostly a combination of concept art that is drawn and other stuff that is found. Its quickly edited to make it fit the idea of the shot your going for. Once thats done you scrap all the stuff you didn't make and start finalizing the vision with in house or bought assets. At this point the artist has a staggering amount of concept work finished and somehow along the lines made the mistake of not removing this piece it. They need some art over the wall its his job to know but he doesn't remember. Done

Yes he should have caught it and yes it still sucks but its much easier than you would ever imagine. We have sent out footage with branding still in the shot and had to do emergency overnight editing because someone just overlooked it.
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I addressed this in the follow up post. You're probably right but it still goes to show they need tighter QA.
 
PapaJustify said:
I can't tell joke posts from hateful people anymore.
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I'm pretty sure there is more meta-hyperbole by Naughty Dog fans than anything else.

msdstc said:
I believe what happened was negligence on somebody who they outsourced. That being said that guy probably didn't take caution, because it's very easy to NOT take copyrighted work if you just turn on the creative commons.
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It should be common ground to do this at this point.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I don't think you guys realize how easy it is to make a mistake like this.
Where the concept art likely came from was from early pre-production. With any project whether is a commercial, movie, video game you do loose story boards. These are almost always done to establish mood and basic flow of what your hoping to achieve. Its mostly a combination of concept art that is drawn and other stuff that is found. Its quickly edited to make it fit the idea of the shot your going for. Once thats done you scrap all the stuff you didn't make and start finalizing the vision with in house or bought assets. At this point the artist has a staggering amount of concept work finished and somehow along the lines made the mistake of not removing this piece it. They need some art over the wall its his job to know but he doesn't remember. Done

Yes he should have caught it and yes it still sucks but its much easier than you would ever imagine. We have sent out footage with branding still in the shot and had to do emergency overnight editing because someone just overlooked it.
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Artists on games I've worked on have made this mistake, just not on released trailers.
 
Looks like a placeholder they got from Google image search ended up in the trailer. Don't see what the big deal is. Is there a big deal?
 
TheXbox said:
It's a painting. On a wall. A painting on a wall in a video game.

Are the responses in here real or are you guys joking? I can't tell. This is the worst case of dissonance I've ever felt on NeoGAF.
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See these are the worst type of replies in here. STEALING IS WRONG. How can you not get that?
 
So they fixed it...cool.

msdstc said:
See these are the worst type of replies in here. STEALING IS WRONG. How can you not get that?
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They apologized for a mistake and rectified it. Do you not find that to be enough? Have you cancelled your plans to buy/play the game?
 
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