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[Ekdrm2d1]

By Daniel White | Wednesday, February 24, 2016 | time.com

A bill would allow children under the age of 14 to possess the weapons.

Lawmakers in Iowa passed a bill Tuesday that would allow kids to handle handguns.

Iowa’s House of Representatives voted 62-36 on a bill that would allow children under the age of 14 to possess “a pistol, revolver or the ammunition” with parental supervision. The Washington Post reports that the bill had a polarizing effect in Iowa. The bill will now head to the State Senate.

Some argue that the bill would unnecessarily arm the state’s children, while others say that the legislation would merely brings handguns into the current law—which allows children to use long guns or shotguns with parental supervision.

The bill’s passage comes after President Obama announced a series of executives actions in January aimed at curbing gun violence in the wake of a spate of mass shootings.

http://time.com/4236258/iowa-bill-children-handguns/?xid=fbshare

The bill:
(which I can't find in the pdf)
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/pubs/hjweb/current/current.pdf

 

[Team Alucard]

Why the hell not?

We already let blind people conceal carry.

Spoiler

-_-

 

[Ekdrm2d1]

Why the hell not?

We already let blind people conceal carry.

Spoiler

-_-

I searched before making the thread. I found that story!

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

America.

 

[80s Bad Guy]

WTF just doesn't cut it.

 

[tcrunch]

62-36...

62-36

62-36?

62 FUCKING 36

 

[TechnicaUS]

Jesus christ, please be a joke.

 

[Kyosaiga]

You know...this law only passed because of Iowa's demographics, in addition to lol gun nuts.

Just think about it.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

This country is so stupid.

Great Britain. Please invade.

 

[LyleLanley]

What a hilarious article from the Onion.

 

[Slayer-33]

I don't get it anymore. I don't understand. Can anyone tell me wtf is wrong with this f'ing country?

 

[Pie and Beans]

What the fuck. What the actual fuck.

 

[SeanC]

Can't vote, can't smoke, can't drink, can't fight in the military?

Ah, here you go, sport! Here's a gun! Now get over there and start shootin' ya little scamp!

 

[Team Alucard]

It is important to note that while the Iowa House is filled with certifiable nuts, the Senate is still controlled by the Democrats and Governor Branstad, while a Republican, isn't a batshit insane tea-partier.

There's probably little chance this actually becomes law.

 

[hey_monkey]

I can't. Someone Grandpa Simpson me off the world.

 

[Loxley]

Iowa seems to be one of those states that's only ever in the news when it's state government does something batshit crazy.

 

[Dishwalla]

There's positively nothing about this that sounds like a good idea. Children, handguns, Iowa. Nothing,

 

[Mutanthands]

Fuck. Just take this gun thing to it's logical conclusion and give every child a gun with its social security number. Teach gun in nursery school.

"This is my handgun. There are many like it, but this one is mine..."

Madness.

 

[HK-47]

Iowa seems to be one of those states that's only ever in the news when it's state government does something batshit crazy.

Or its an election year.

 

[gruenel]

Absolutely nothing could go wrong.

 

[shinobi602]

There seems to be a discrepancy between the title and the content. The Iowa law apparently allows children under 14 to "handle" rifles and long guns with parental supervision, so for things like target shooting or some such, and this law will extend that to handguns as well.

It's not saying kids are going to start carrying guns everywhere...

 

[chadskin]

"Don't get into the car of a stranger, Timmy, shoot him in the head."

 

[RPGCrazied]

Please tell me this is a joke? What is happening with America. Its like its falling apart.

Let kids get married at that age too then, let them drink, vote. Do it all!

Idiots.

 

[Polioliolio]

This is insane! It's a mad house!

What lengths will republicans go?

Fuck my life..

 

[Bleepey]

Why of course. Oh and blind people can own guns. Shake my head.

 

[23qwerty]

that sounds like a good move. as we all know, children are very levelheaded and smart.

 

[adj_noun]

Here's the bill.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Context and clarification is required. Does this allow minors to operate a firearm with adult supervision at let's say a range under parental supervision or does it allow a minor to carry handguns as the headline implicitly states?

No text in the article indicates they'd be allowed to carry. But possess under adult supervision. Which was already the case for long guns in the state.

Here's the bill.

Yea that bill says nothing about carrying. Sounds more like "hey if you want to let your kid operate a handgun when you go out target shooting or whatever you can."

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

The biggest problem is that kids under 14 can already handle shotguns and rifles there.

 

[Piggus]

Uh, pretty sure the existing law was never going to deter a parent from teaching their kid how to shoot a handgun.

There seems to be a discrepancy between the title and the content. The Iowa law apparently allows children under 14 to "handle" rifles and long guns with parental supervision, so for things like target shooting or some such, and this law will extend that to handguns as well.

It's not saying kids are going to start carrying guns everywhere...

Or we could all just get angry for no reason.

 

[King_Moc]

Haha, you know what? Fucking do it. Sounds like a way of cancelling out idiots that have somehow managed to breed.

 

[FyreWulff]

Counciltucky about to get interesting

 

[RPGCrazied]

Here's the bill.

So they have to be supervised. Still don't buy it. Remember in the news not that long ago, some minor girl accidentally shot and killed her instructor. Bad idea.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Second ammendment never said adults only so why the fuck not?

 

[DiscoJer]

Am I missing something? Lots of kids learn how to shoot.from their parents.

It's not letting kids carry guns to school or out to play. Just letting them use them under parental supervistion.

"Iowa’s House of Representatives voted 62-36 on a bill that would allow children under the age of 14 to possess “a pistol, revolver or the ammunition” with parental supervision

 

[23qwerty]

Context and clarification is required. Does this allow minors to operate a firearm with adult supervision at let's say a range under parental supervision or does it allow a minor to carry handguns as the headline implicitly states?

No text in the article indicates they'd be allowed to carry. But possess under adult supervision. Which was already the case for long guns in the state.

was wondering that myself, thread title kinda sets a bias though

 

[mre]

There seems to be a discrepancy between the title and the content. The Iowa law apparently allows children under 14 to "handle" rifles and long guns with parental supervision, so for things like target shooting or some such, and this law will extend that to handguns as well.

It's not saying kids are going to start carrying guns everywhere...

Here's the bill.

Context and clarification is required. Does this allow minors to operate a firearm with adult supervision at let's say a range under parental supervision or does it allow a minor to carry handguns as the headline implicitly states?

No text in the article indicates they'd be allowed to carry. But possess under adult supervision. Which was already the case for long guns in the state.



Yea that bill says nothing about carrying. Sounds more like "hey if you want to let your kid operate a handgun when you go out target shooting or whatever you can."

Everyone else in this thread has broken knees from all the jerking they just did responding to the OP.

 

[Monocle]

It's probably for the best. Children deserve freedom too.

Am I missing something? Lots of kids learn how to shoot.from their parents.

It's not letting kids carry guns to school or out to play. Just letting them use them under parental supervistion.

The important thing is for there to be a way for children to legally handle guns.

 

[DiscoJer]

So they have to be supervised. Still don't buy it. Remember in the news not that long ago, some minor girl accidentally shot and killed her instructor. Bad idea.

That was a couple years ago when they let a young girl fire a fully automatic weapon (an Uzi) at a gun range.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/

Yes, letting 9 year old firing an uzi is not a good idea. But a .22 revolver? Those have no recoil

 

[Hip Hop]

62-36...

62-36

62-36?

62 FUCKING 36

 

[Transhuman]

 

[Ekdrm2d1]

Here's the bill.

Thanks. I was looking for that!

 

[Littlefang]

Just give your child a nerf gun like normal parents ffs.

 

[Nere]

Am I missing something? Lots of kids learn how to shoot.from their parents.

It's not letting kids carry guns to school or out to play. Just letting them use them under parental supervistion.

Why should a kid below 14 years old ever use a gun anyway? Are you Americans preparing for war or something? Beliefs like those have led you were you are now, multilple homicides and accidents involving guns. Most people in Europe have never fired a gun in their life and are fine, will never understand you.

 

[TheStruggler]

Why the hell not?

We already let blind people conceal carry.

Spoiler

-_-

 

[TechnicaUS]

Everyone else in this thread has broken knees from all the jerking they just did responding to the OP.

You jnow what, you're right. It's weird, I just have this strange aversion to having a deadly weapon in the hands of anyone but a responsible adult under any circumstances.
Strange, I know.

 

[Piggus]

The biggest problem is that kids under 14 can already handle shotguns and rifles there.

It may come as shocking news, but one of the best ways to teach a kid about safe gun handling and the inherent danger of guns is to teach them how to shoot. Even in my incredibly liberal Southern Oregon town, a lot of my friends grew up learning how to shoot, and those people were always very vigilant about safe gun handling in my experience. But let me tell you a little story. When I was much younger, my dad gave me a small single-shot .410 shotgun that I would use when we would go bird hunting. One day I had it in my room for some reason or another (it was probably being cleaned), and a friend of mine came over whose parents owned guns but never really taught him anything about them. A combination of curiosity, lack of gun safety knowledge, and overall dumbassery compelled him to pick up the shotgun, cock the hammer, point it right at my face, and pull the trigger. Obviously it was unloaded because I'm still here, but that's the kind of dumbass shit kids (or even adults) do when they're not taught proper gun safety and suddenly find themselves around guns.

I took an extensive youth gun safety education course when I was 13 by the way, and the final day focuses on actual shooting. It's generally accepted that you can't teach proper gun safety without some kind of hands-on training.

 

[DiscoJer]

It's probably for the best. Children deserve freedom too.


The important thing is for there to be a way for children to legally handle guns.

It is. It's important for children to learn gun safety, and to not fetishize them.

It's like how alcohol laws have led to binge drinking in the US.. Making it illegal glamorizes it, taking an every day part of adult life and makes it forbidden and magical to children, causing them to abuse it.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Iowa is run by idiots.

 

[Oriel]

There seems to be a discrepancy between the title and the content. The Iowa law apparently allows children under 14 to "handle" rifles and long guns with parental supervision, so for things like target shooting or some such, and this law will extend that to handguns as well.

It's not saying kids are going to start carrying guns everywhere...

Yea that bill says nothing about carrying. Sounds more like "hey if you want to let your kid operate a handgun when you go out target shooting or whatever you can."

I can't imagine anything that could go wrong there:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/