Street Fighter V |OT2| Another Fight Isn't Coming Your Way!

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CrackPebbles said:
If your opponent is stand teching every time you're getting into command grab range that means you can easily shimmy and blow him up for it when his tech whiffs. You're not supposed to be using the command grab defensively. You need to condition them to block.
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Of course, I just don't really see the purpose of the cg over the grab. I mean, lp cg and regular grab do the same damage. Hp version doesn't do enough to justify the risk of getting teched or whiffing, as it's range is laughably bad, and I believe the reg grab even recovers faster on whiff. It just seems like an all together bad strat.
 
K.Sabot said:
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Aaaaand here's why I guess you're not allowed to play characters that aren't your main in casual match.
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Cool icon tho, Contra guy swinging a Castlevania whip.
 
Romars202129 said:
Of course, I just don't really see the purpose of the cg over the grab. I mean, lp cg and regular grab do the same damage. Hp version doesn't do enough to justify the risk of getting teched or whiffing, as it's range is laughably bad, and I believe the reg grab even recovers faster on whiff. It just seems like an all together bad strat.
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There are also situations like off an air reset where the command grab can be really useful depending on what your opponent chooses to do. Like, I just think having a command grab is inherently a good thing, you have that mixup option that an opponent needs to keep on their mind. There are a few situations like that where opponents will tech on reaction and have to think twice because of it.
 
CrackPebbles said:
There are also situations like off an air reset where the command grab can be really useful depending on what your opponent chooses to do. Like, I just think having a command grab is inherently a good thing, you have that mixup option that an opponent needs to keep on their mind. There are a few situations like that where opponents will tech on reaction and have to think twice because of it.
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I just wish I could get a solid 150 off the lp, like Vega's at least. That would make it fine imo. I need that enticement.
I am tempted to use it more, just because the ex version is decent and I feel like I'm training myself to never use it. Which version do you use? Play it safe with the long reach lp, or you go for the hp's damage typically ?
 
K.Sabot said:
Yeah the video is fine and I found it hilarious, but dudes going into my comments and taunting me for losing in casual mode is kinda dumb.
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yeah thats annoying i feel ya. but any decent player with half an iq will know whats up, don't be persuaded by online scrub mentality
 
Romars202129 said:
I just wish I could get a solid 150 off the lp, like Vega's at least. That would make it fine imo. I need that enticement.
I am tempted to use it more, just because the ex version is decent and I feel like I'm training myself to never use it. Which version do you use? Play it safe with the long reach lp, or you go for the hp's damage typically ?
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I use LP mostly, after EX stomp I mix up walking forward for throw, low forward xx stomp, baiting reversal, and lk command grab. In the corner I pretty much only use EX to go for a kinda gimmicky reset after between either another command grab or crush counter st.HK.
 
squattingdonkey said:
My TE2+ got here today. It's my first time with a stick and even though I am awful, it is so much more fun. Well worth the insane investment so far.
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That's awesome, congrats!

I definitely wouldn't be able to last through the pain without a fight stick. So glad I got one as well.

I got the Hori RAP4 and I'm liking it a lot.
 
Don't know if they're a gaffer, but just played a dude on my steamlist. Thought it'd be a fun set, but all they did was bitch the entire game. Even bitching after they won a round, so much so that they were typing after the round started and I backed off so that they could finish.

Just a snippet of what was said. Removed the person's actual username:

Randomsteamuser: oh great
Randomsteamuser: ryu
Randomsteamuser: what a surprise
Randomsteamuser: i cant wait to jump over hadous
Skillzilla81: my mains are cammy and mika :P, i play mostly on ps4
Randomsteamuser: you mean safe on block specials
Randomsteamuser: wow
Randomsteamuser: your cannon spike blocked
Randomsteamuser: i couldn't jab you
Randomsteamuser: you got priority
Randomsteamuser: whhat a terrible game
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Skillzilla81: why do you play the game if you hate it so much?
Randomsteamuser: because i feel like im missing something
Randomsteamuser: but retards keep proving me wrong
Randomsteamuser: I guess I'm stupid
Randomsteamuser: like you know how mnay flowchart kens i see?
Randomsteamuser: you know how many idiots get away with turtling and mashing moves?
Skillzilla81: learn to punish?
Randomsteamuser: uhhhh
Randomsteamuser: wow
Randomsteamuser: it's alwaya
Randomsteamuser: BACK
Randomsteamuser: TO THAT
Randomsteamuser: ALWAYS
Randomsteamuser: NO
Randomsteamuser: I AM NOT IN THE WRONG
Skillzilla81: yeah
Skillzilla81: you are
Randomsteamuser: DESIGN IS SHIT
Randomsteamuser: yeah ok idiot
Randomsteamuser: you'd defend a 100% combo
Randomsteamuser: just like any fucking obsessive sf player
Skillzilla81: if you say so
Skillzilla81: have fun playing a game you hate
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Removed and blocked them. Hope that's not a gaffer, because that was sad.
 
CrackPebbles said:
I use LP mostly, after EX stomp I mix up walking forward for throw, low forward xx stomp, baiting reversal, and lk command grab. In the corner I pretty much only use EX to go for a kinda gimmicky reset after between either another command grab or crush counter st.HK.
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Yeah, I saw Alucard doing that a lot. I guess the oki is worth the meter burn or something,ex grab in the corner he always follows up with st hp instead of dp.
Hell, you want a match? Let me see some of this stuff first hand.
 
Skilletor said:
Don't know if they're a gaffer, but just played a dude on my steamlist. Thought it'd be a fun set, but all they did was bitch the entire game. Even bitching after they won a round, so much so that they were typing after the round started and I backed off so that they could finish.

Just a snippet of what was said. Removed the person's actual username:






Removed and blocked them. Hope that's not a gaffer, because that was sad.
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Just give us the username. We want blowups.
 
Laura feels really cheap against Necalli, but I'm sure that's just because I don't know the matchup. Most lauras do this thing where they do the elbow attack and then seemingly command grab, but the grab doesn't combo. Is this a reset? If so, the only way out seems to be a jump, since even necalli's jab can't beat the grab attempt if the elbow hits. And her V-Skill seems insanely fast.

EDIT: Lol, it's all dashes and grabs. This is the worst.
 
Edzi said:
Laura feels really cheap against Necalli, but I'm sure that's just because I don't know the matchup. Most lauras do this thing where they attack and then seemingly command grab, but the grab doesn't combo. Is this a reset? If so, the only way out seems to be a jump, since even necalli's jab can't beat the grab attempt if the elbow hits.
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She has an attack that looks like a grab, it's not a combo thats the full move, elbow to the spin submission
 
Edzi said:
Laura feels really cheap against Necalli, but I'm sure that's just because I don't know the matchup. Most lauras do this thing where they attack and then seemingly command grab, but the grab doesn't combo. Is this a reset? If so, the only way out seems to be a jump, since even necalli's jab can't beat the grab attempt if the elbow hits.
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If the elbow hits, yes. She's plus on hit, so your only real options are to backdash or jump to avoid the command grab. If you neutral jump and she command grabs, she's totally open for a huge punish though.

She also has another elbow where the grab is just an extension of the move and is a combo. But that elbow (medium elbow) is super unsafe on block.
 
Skilletor said:
Don't know if they're a gaffer, but just played a dude on my steamlist. Thought it'd be a fun set, but all they did was bitch the entire game. Even bitching after they won a round, so much so that they were typing after the round started and I backed off so that they could finish.

Just a snippet of what was said. Removed the person's actual username:






Removed and blocked them. Hope that's not a gaffer, because that was sad.
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what was his lp? I am willing to bet <500
 
skLaFarebear said:
If the elbow hits, yes. She's plus on hit, so your only real options are to backdash or jump to avoid the command grab. If you neutral jump and she command grabs, she's totally open for a huge punish though.

She also has another elbow where it's just an extension of the move and is a combo. But that elbow (medium elbow) is super unsafe on block.
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That seems insanely dangerous since she seems so plus. She could grab, or hit me out of an attempted jump/backdash.

I'm fighting a Laura in a lobby right now and I've never been so helpless in a matchup. Just dash after dash into grab after grab into reset into reset.
 
Edzi said:
That seems insanely dangerous since she seems so plus. She could grab, or hit me out of an attempted jump/backdash.
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Yup. If she hits the elbow, you're kinda fucked unless you make the good read. But considering her entire mixup game arguably revolves around the elbow, it kinda makes sense why it's so good.

Light elbow is minus on block, but it's safe, so you can't punish it.
 
skLaFarebear said:
Yup. If she hits the elbow, you're kinda fucked unless you make the good read. But considering her entire mixup game arguably revolves around the elbow, it kinda makes sense why it's so good.

Light elbow is minus on block, but it's safe, so you can't punish it.
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It just seems like she gets resets so easily, and they're all insanely hard to react to. Not to mention the free grabs she's getting on me because I can't react to the dash.
 
skLaFarebear said:
Yup. If she hits the elbow, you're kinda fucked unless you make the good read. But considering her entire mixup game arguably revolves around the elbow, it kinda makes sense why it's so good.

Light elbow is minus on block, but it's safe, so you can't punish it.
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So how do you stop the elbow? Can you interrupt that move?
 
LegendX48 said:
Y'all talking about dangerous Laura's and here I am reading all this while thinking about my terribad Laura lol
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Nah, my Laura is real ass too. Dropped like a 1000LP in the past week. She's giving me Makoto vibes with how I'm having a ton of difficulty properly controlling her.

Edzi said:
It just seems like she gets resets so easily, and they're all insanely hard to react to. Not to mention the free grabs she's getting on me because I can't react to the dash.
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Her best reset tool is definitely the EX fireball. It's super dangerous, even on block where she's still plus. Necalli's stubby normals make it easier for Laura to get in.

Gunslinger said:
So how do you stop the elbow? Can you interrupt that move?
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Nope, not if she confirms it off another move. Like I mentioned, it's safe on block, but it is negative.
 
How have capcom still not made a update regarding ragequitters and other stuff like survival mode? Didn't they say "a few days" back last thursday or something?
 
Gunslinger said:
So how do i avoid the grab after elbow? Backdash or jab? Can't just do nothing or else i get grabbed.
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Neutral jump or backdash.

She might not always go for the grab, but it's probably her best mixup tool after an elbow that hits.

For example, she can jab -> light elbow again afterwards if you press a button/jump/backdash.
 
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