plasmawave
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Movies in the 80's had balls. They gave no fucks about kids getting traumatized by these movies lol.
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Ghostbusters (2016) Trailer #1 (Feig, Wiig, McCarthy, McKinnon, Jones)
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Movies in the 80's had balls. They gave no fucks about kids getting traumatized by these movies lol.
Dubbedinenglish
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Agree 100%. Was linked earlier from the actor who played Winston in the original:
http://www.ew.com/article/2014/11/05/ghostbusters-ernie-hudson
Sadly the reality where the black actor would be equal to the others is still a pipedream.
Full disclosure: I'm not a fan of this trailer, and general don't like the idea of this movie; I got nothing against the women concept though...
... Having said that, can't help but feel that I should be onboard with this movie since Trump hates it and reboots in general... Trump hates female Ghostbusters
... Having said that, can't help but feel that I should be onboard with this movie since Trump hates it and reboots in general... Trump hates female Ghostbusters
As a guy who loved both Ghostbusters movies(yes, both) and disliked Bridesmaids I thought the trailer was fine.
Then again I never understand the obsession with continuity when it comes to Ghostbusters nor did I want that long rumored Ghostbusters 3. I never watched the cartoons, had the toys or any of that. So I probably never was too invested in the franchise.
Still don't see what's so goddamn terrible about this trailer.
Then again I never understand the obsession with continuity when it comes to Ghostbusters nor did I want that long rumored Ghostbusters 3. I never watched the cartoons, had the toys or any of that. So I probably never was too invested in the franchise.
Still don't see what's so goddamn terrible about this trailer.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
I think you're overreacting, sir.
God that's so fucking heartbreaking.
This whole thread is lol. Even if they made the best trailer ever this thread would read exactly the same.
Good thing the GAF demographic isn't the only demo movies target anymore. Everyone sad about this can go see Batman or Civil War or any of the other 5000 nerd movies out in the near future.
Good thing the GAF demographic isn't the only demo movies target anymore. Everyone sad about this can go see Batman or Civil War or any of the other 5000 nerd movies out in the near future.
Why do people keep saying stuff like this?
BadAss2961
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I don't know... Youtube is killing this trailer.
Seriously, citing youtube comments to support your opinion?
It's a bad trailer that includes mainly PG jokes for the kids. Now, does this mean the movie will be bad? No. It could just be a bad trailer.
The talking down to any critics of this trailer is so....petty. So many people are in this 'us vs them' mode right now. Get a grip people.
The talking down to any critics of this trailer is so....petty. So many people are in this 'us vs them' mode right now. Get a grip people.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Yeah, I wouldn't use the source that brought us "Female ghostbusters is GAY !" and "Feminazis ruining everything we love..." as a good source of anything
DragonSworne
Banned
There is a better fan made version of this trailer and a lot of posters here like it compared to this trailer.
Your first claim is already false.
SketchTheArtist
Member
That face gave me nightmares for years when I was younger.
That's a big problem I have with these types of movies that are partly aimed at a younger audience; they're not scary when they need to be. You need that horror aspect to hit a serious note so when you have humor coming in, you've got that nice contrast.
E.T., GhostBusters, Labyrinth, Willow... There are some fuckin' horrific visuals in all of them. They stay memorable decades later.
To be fair though, she is essentially playing herself. Or at least, her stand-up persona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2dRd541do
The role was probably written for her specifically, not any random black woman.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
I could see Ernie watching GB 2-3 times every year.
DeadOnions
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Are you not allowed to dislike the trailer unless you're called a "hater"?
Count Dookkake
Member
Despite the total inaccuracy of the premise, this is amazing.
Would watch a movie about this guy.
"Hey guys wait wait wait - I'm gonna be on in a minute for the first of my three main scenes!"
BadAss2961
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Not only the comments, but the dislikes. The trailer just isn't very good. It's more than GAF with this one.
Totally my opinion only on this:
The disgusting sexism surrounding the movie has really poisoned the air to have a conversation the basically says "I didn't think that looked very good."
Of course there are the people who just don't think it's necessary, and that the original is sacred. There would always be those kind of arguments, and that's fine. But it's frustrating not to be able to have a discussion without an immediate division line being drawn.
Trailer fell completely flat with what looks like weird action; and as someone who really wasn't sold on the concept to begin with, that really hurts. Kate McKinnon looks interesting, but the dialogue sounded so bad "You are an expert at this. She's the best expert at this." Plus Kristen Wiig's delivery sounded...off or something.
Could just be a bad trailer, but something tells me the writing isn't going to deliver
I think people remember the Statue of Liberty part at the end and forget a lot of the rest. I thought it was actually a lot darker in tone, especially how the Film opens.
Count Dookkake
Member
If people are going to insist that most negativity is coming from sexists, I'm gonna have to insist that most positivity is coming from kleptogamists.
brandonh83
Banned
Yep everything is sexism/racism and it's fucking annoying. I've criticized this trailer for a number of reasons and those things didn't even cross my mind. I don't care about it because I feel like no matter what they do, someone is going to find some way to relate something to it so it's ultimately moot.
Case in point, Star Wars. It was ridiculous before we saw a second of footage.
Scientist Supreme!
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Well we live in a society where that is very much true. I can see how that can frustrating but these problems do exist and just sitting back and allowing them to happen isn't going to fix it. It's fine for you to not care but it matters a whole lot to others.
onepiecefan
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Only just got around to seeing the trailer, initial impression is that it looks like a load of shit.
I'm sure there's a number of people that had a bad reaction to the trailer simply because it featured females remaking/rebooting a loved movie, but not the majority. It's just a bad trailer, for what looks like a potentially bad movie.
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brandonh83
Banned
You're not wrong. I know it's touchy to some. But I do feel like some go looking for it. Not everyone of course.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I think the majority of people, period, who dislike the trailer, just dislike the trailer for content reasons: The jokes selected, the editing choices, the music, the way it looks, etc. I honestly believe there are way more people who dislike the commercial for the Ghostbusters movie simply because it's a not-good commercial.
I think the majority of people who hit the thumbs down button on YouTube (which isn't necessarily the same group of people as above at all) are doing it to contribute the poisonous atmosphere around the movie via hot-air by online sexists.
One can note that stupid shit without suggesting anyone coming in here is a member of that group. It's really easy. Even with the large arguments I personally got into in this thread a couple pages back, I didn't believe stufte, or Freeza, or whoever else wound up involved in that back & forth, were involved with that group, or had those elements factoring into their dislike of the trailer.
Because I'm not confusing the two groups. People who dislike the commercial aren't automatically sexists. Hell, even people who thumbed it down on YouTube aren't automatically, in their entirety, sexists. The large majority of people didn't thumb it down or up, regardless their opinion. But I think it's fairly obvious in the context of the last two-to-three years of online discourse about gender issues that, considering the atmosphere around this movie since it's announcement, a large percentage of the downvotes on that particular trailer are from sexists of some fashion or another.
You can simultaneously hold both viewpoints to exist at the same time and its not contradictory. It's not a judgment on anyone who honestly dislikes the commercial. It's only a judgment on you if you're actually
a) a person who thumbed down the YouTube video
b) thumbed it down because you don't like that Ghostbusters is a "chick flick" now.
That's it.
Everything else conflating those two stances into one is more or less wasted defensiveness. People seem more worried that someone here is going to suggest they're a sexist for not liking a movie's commercial than the actual conversations would seem to play out.
Basically: "Because there's really loud stupid demonstrative sexists out there shitting their pants over this movie, I'm afraid to say anything negative because you guys are gonna think I'm with them."
Which, okay, I get that. But that isn't really happening either. And the best way to ensure that continues to not happen isn't to then try and minimize the very aspect that automatically had you nervous in the first place. You don't have to try and pretend the thing you know is happening is now suddenly not important and not really happening just so you can make honest, fair criticisms of this commercial.
I think the majority of people who hit the thumbs down button on YouTube (which isn't necessarily the same group of people as above at all) are doing it to contribute the poisonous atmosphere around the movie via hot-air by online sexists.
One can note that stupid shit without suggesting anyone coming in here is a member of that group. It's really easy. Even with the large arguments I personally got into in this thread a couple pages back, I didn't believe stufte, or Freeza, or whoever else wound up involved in that back & forth, were involved with that group, or had those elements factoring into their dislike of the trailer.
Because I'm not confusing the two groups. People who dislike the commercial aren't automatically sexists. Hell, even people who thumbed it down on YouTube aren't automatically, in their entirety, sexists. The large majority of people didn't thumb it down or up, regardless their opinion. But I think it's fairly obvious in the context of the last two-to-three years of online discourse about gender issues that, considering the atmosphere around this movie since it's announcement, a large percentage of the downvotes on that particular trailer are from sexists of some fashion or another.
You can simultaneously hold both viewpoints to exist at the same time and its not contradictory. It's not a judgment on anyone who honestly dislikes the commercial. It's only a judgment on you if you're actually
a) a person who thumbed down the YouTube video
b) thumbed it down because you don't like that Ghostbusters is a "chick flick" now.
That's it.
Everything else conflating those two stances into one is more or less wasted defensiveness. People seem more worried that someone here is going to suggest they're a sexist for not liking a movie's commercial than the actual conversations would seem to play out.
Basically: "Because there's really loud stupid demonstrative sexists out there shitting their pants over this movie, I'm afraid to say anything negative because you guys are gonna think I'm with them."
Which, okay, I get that. But that isn't really happening either. And the best way to ensure that continues to not happen isn't to then try and minimize the very aspect that automatically had you nervous in the first place. You don't have to try and pretend the thing you know is happening is now suddenly not important and not really happening just so you can make honest, fair criticisms of this commercial.
VendettaRed07
Member
McKinnon seems like she'll be good in it. She's the only one who didn't come of as awkward or bored or something.
I don't understand casting Melissa McCarthy as "The straight woman" type character either. She can be serviceable as the goofball. Her humor is always in the extremes, I don't think she can carry people through a movie like this
I hope it's better than the trailer made it seem though. But we'll see
I don't understand casting Melissa McCarthy as "The straight woman" type character either. She can be serviceable as the goofball. Her humor is always in the extremes, I don't think she can carry people through a movie like this
I hope it's better than the trailer made it seem though. But we'll see
MichaelFassbender
Member
Trailer quality notwithstanding, I'm sure this'll make its principle back and more.
- Melissa McCarthy puts butts in seats
- Feig can't seem to do wrong
- Much beloved franchise means there's awareness already
It'll do fine.
- Melissa McCarthy puts butts in seats
- Feig can't seem to do wrong
- Much beloved franchise means there's awareness already
It'll do fine.
brandonh83
Banned
Good points Bobby.
I just find it to be a huge bummer is all. I didn't like the trailer, I liked some things about it. I like the art direction, the clear fact that there's going to be a lot of cool sciency stuff, I like the colors, most of the visuals, etc. I don't like the vomiting ghost gag, I don't like the possession scene as I feel like it's the most basic derivative humor you'd find in horror movie spoofs; I don't think a character in Ghostbusters becoming possessed should be turned into a joke. Even in Ghostbusters 2, a movie that people are comparing the humor in this trailer to, Ray got possessed and it was legitimately creepy.
I think Ghostbusters should be a mix between creepy and funny. It can be both. Hell I think Shaun of the Dead, a movie that Katie Dippold, the co-writer of this compared Ghostbusters' humor to, had some creepy moments and atmosphere. In the same interview, she said she likes the kind of humor where you have scenes that could be scary, but you just laugh at for relief. Except Shaun of the Dead, while a comedy, felt creepy and atmospheric. Maybe this movie does too, but it wasn't evident in the trailer. That doesn't mean much yet, but it's a fair observation to make as this is how they're trying to market it.
I don't mind Ghostbusters having a level of slapstick humor, but not at the expense of creativity or clever writing. I can't believe for a second that Paul Feig felt like making a "compels you" joke was clever or funny. How many times has it been done by this point? Regardless of what you think Ghostbusters is or isn't, it deserves a better class of screenwriting than that, straight up. That's why I criticize the humor in the trailer-- at least the moments that I particularly disliked. They fall into the "gross out gag" and "Scary Movie" categories of humor, and I think Ghostbusters is above that.
I just find it to be a huge bummer is all. I didn't like the trailer, I liked some things about it. I like the art direction, the clear fact that there's going to be a lot of cool sciency stuff, I like the colors, most of the visuals, etc. I don't like the vomiting ghost gag, I don't like the possession scene as I feel like it's the most basic derivative humor you'd find in horror movie spoofs; I don't think a character in Ghostbusters becoming possessed should be turned into a joke. Even in Ghostbusters 2, a movie that people are comparing the humor in this trailer to, Ray got possessed and it was legitimately creepy.
I think Ghostbusters should be a mix between creepy and funny. It can be both. Hell I think Shaun of the Dead, a movie that Katie Dippold, the co-writer of this compared Ghostbusters' humor to, had some creepy moments and atmosphere. In the same interview, she said she likes the kind of humor where you have scenes that could be scary, but you just laugh at for relief. Except Shaun of the Dead, while a comedy, felt creepy and atmospheric. Maybe this movie does too, but it wasn't evident in the trailer. That doesn't mean much yet, but it's a fair observation to make as this is how they're trying to market it.
I don't mind Ghostbusters having a level of slapstick humor, but not at the expense of creativity or clever writing. I can't believe for a second that Paul Feig felt like making a "compels you" joke was clever or funny. How many times has it been done by this point? Regardless of what you think Ghostbusters is or isn't, it deserves a better class of screenwriting than that, straight up. That's why I criticize the humor in the trailer-- at least the moments that I particularly disliked. They fall into the "gross out gag" and "Scary Movie" categories of humor, and I think Ghostbusters is above that.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
That face gave me nightmares for years when I was younger.
You just need to conquer your fears, then you can control them to do your bidding.
BouncyFrag
Member
Do not want.
Stallion Dan
Member
It's all treated rather comedic though, Janosz looks silly dressed like an old woman, is funny during numerous Vigo scenes
"I, Vigo, the Scourge of Carpathia..."
"Yes, yes, you said this already"
Stuff like the heads on spikes is sandwiched directly inbetween two jokes.
There's nothing that really matches scenes like the library ghost, Dana armchair abduction, or even simple scenes like in Dana's apartment with the eggs etc.
Though I will say putting head on spikes in a movie intended to be more kid friendly is great. Love the 80s.
MoonsaultSlayer
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plagiarize
Banned
Like I've said, most people who saw the movie as a kid found Ghostbusters 2 the scarier movie. Janosz dressed as a nanny is hilarious now I'm an adult, but as a kid that shit was terrifying.
A Link to the Past
Banned
To me, the situation feels like a less severe version of the GG stuff, where it's become harder to talk about ethics in games journalism without having to note your dissociation with GamerGate.
What's James Franco doing there?You just need to conquer your fears, then you can control them to do your bidding.
excelsiorlef
Member
An interesting article on Jones. Still think it could easily have been another one if the actors instead but regardless I felt it worth sharing
http://jezebel.com/leslie-jones-on-playing-a-mta-worker-why-cant-a-regula-1762929128
http://jezebel.com/leslie-jones-on-playing-a-mta-worker-why-cant-a-regula-1762929128
that's blatantly Josh Brolin
Dee Dah Dave
Member
My God this looks terrible.
The constant rehashing of classic films needs to stop.
The constant rehashing of classic films needs to stop.
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