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What is with this teacher anyways. Becomes a teacher to kill kids. Buys multiple cars just in case he decides to use one to kill a kid.

I'm left wondering about the candy. Was he seriously using it to help quit smoking or did he want to lure kids with it? The candy back story is what will allow us to to break down this character and his motivations.
 
I always suspected the teacher but I also suspected Sawada and every other man in this show. Still, the teacher made the most logical sense but I didn't want to believe it since he was so nice. Even his suspicious behaviour of not wanting to involve the police or whatever when that girl went missing was put aside.

I think the point was to show that Satoru is too innocent and sees the best in people. For example, even though he was an adult in a 8 year old's body, he still played with Yuuki and never suspected him of being a creep for playing with children after work. And even though his teacher was the most logical culprit, he never once suspected him.

I know that some people are disappointed with the outcome but for me, it is a little like True Detective where the actual mystery is less of a focus. It's not even that bad here since Satoru never even tried to look for the killer, he was just focused on saving victims.

All in all, I thought it was a great episode with a lot of tension and I can't wait to see what happens next week.
 
Walpurgis said:
I always suspected the teacher but I also suspected Sawada and every other man in this show. Still, the teacher made the most logical sense but I didn't want to believe it since he was so nice. Even his suspicious behaviour of not wanting to involve the police or whatever when that girl went missing was put aside.

I think the point was to show that Satoru is too innocent and sees the best in people. For example, even though he was an adult in a 8 year old's body, he still played with Yuuki and never suspected him of being a creep for playing with children after work. And even though his teacher was the most logical culprit, he never once suspected him.

I know that some people are disappointed with the outcome but for me, it is a little like True Detective where the actual mystery is less of a focus. It's not even that bad here since Satoru never even tried to look for the killer, he was just focused on saving victims.

All in all, I thought it was a great episode with a lot of tension and I can't wait to see what happens next week.
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I agree with everything you wrote. The candy thing really threw me off though. I didn't think it could possibly be him anymore after that.
 
The latest episode of Erased would have been better if Satoru and the killer settled their differences in a b-ball match.

Satoru-"I dunk for time justice!"
 
todd360 said:
I agree with everything you wrote. The candy thing really threw me off though. I didn't think it could possibly be him anymore after that.
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Me too. Up until then, the teacher didn't get a lot of screen time but that scene humanised him and made me feel silly for thinking he was going to murder Satoru. This guy is too much of a clown, I thought.
todd360 said:
What is with this teacher anyways. Becomes a teacher to kill kids. Buys multiple cars just in case he decides to use one to kill a kid.

I'm left wondering about the candy. Was he seriously using it to help quit smoking or did he want to lure kids with it? The candy back story is what will allow us to to break down this character and his motivations.
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I don't think he needed the candy to lure the kids since 2/3 of those kids were his students and they trusted him. I'm sure Aya has seen him around and knows he's a teacher as well so I think the candy thing is real.
 
Ugh... the teacher turning out to be the killer is such a fuckin softball... For someone as smart (and as old) as Satoru, who generally picks up information as it's fed to the viewer, I'm honestly shocked that the glove compartment full of candy raised absolutely no suspicions... Come on man! This show!
 
I don't think Satoru didn't suspect the teacher at all. He just didn't want to believe that this could be true. The teacher was essentially a father figure to him on the latest few episodes.
 
This episode in a nutshell:


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Qurupeke said:
I don't think Satoru didn't suspect the teacher at all. He just didn't want to believe that this could be true. The teacher was essentially a father figure to him on the latest few episodes.
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I'm pretty sure he literally said exactly that in his internal monologue in this episode. That he just didn't want to even consider the possibility.

I don't know, I appreciate this series playing the whodunit straight instead of throwing in some crazy anime "it was something that doesn't make any sense!" explanation. I like it, and I'm even cool with the ham-fistedness of the melodramatic reveal in this episode. Sometimes even over-the-top cliches have their place.

I think it's kind of a testament to how good the series actually is that the part everybody has a problem with is that the mystery is a little too obvious and not the fact that literally the core essential plot point upon which the entire series is based (Satoru's ability to time travel) has gone completely and utterly unexplained in any way. Everybody's apparently cool with that, but a crazed child murderer monologuing about his child murdering escapades is the part that's just not believable.

Also,
I'm still not convinced that Kenya is on the up and up.
 
Episode literally had no impact. Just cancel the murder mystery and keep the anime going about a show where a groups of kids help lonely ones. Much more fun and entertaining.
 
Kuro-Law said:
Episode literally had no impact. Just cancel the murder mystery and keep the anime going about a show where a groups of kids help lonely ones. Much more fun and entertaining.
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almost like the only good plotline and what everyone liked about the show was the Kayo plotline and it wouldve been better as a 4 episode ova with some plot changes
 
Not a shocker, but they lead up to this well. I'm sure most had him pegged a while back. Kenya is certainly involved somehow, given the red eyes at one point, the one episode with him talking to the teacher after class at the end, and the fact that the dude we saw in the first episode trying to kidnap that kid looked very much like an older Kenya.

Admiral Woofington said:
This year's Parasyte.

Relatively strong start and it ended in a whimper.


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Parasyte was pretty dull after the first couple episodes.
 
Well, if they cut some of the new (and almost unnecessary) characters that are introduced after this, then I can easily see them covering all of the manga. Hell, they already did it this episode by cutting some of the manga content.
 
Most surprising thing about this whole thing is how some people didn't realize it was the teacher. Really, guys?

And if the manga really didn't make it as obvious as the anime did, why didn't anyone warn us!? I would've given up on the anime and just read the manga at that point.

I might just read through it now before the next episode.
 
Askherserenity said:
Most surprising thing about this whole thing is how some people didn't realize it was the teacher. Really, guys?
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I saw things like the candy stuff as a red herring. I couldn't understand why you would create a murder mystery story with literally only one suspect in it. (who actually also turns out to be the killer).

The teacher was also too perfect imo for a sociopath. Plus going out of his way to really ruin his own plans and helping other people (reuniting grandmother, mother and daughter). Not to mention that Satoru saw the killer three times and didn't recognize him at all. The one time his mother was with him she did a quick glance and knew who it was...

Now everything feels too contrived.
Especially this episode: How should the teacher know he can lure Satoru with that company truck? Why did Satoru even want to follow that truck, he knows it wasn't Yuuki. and FFS he WATCHED the girl going into the bathroom, how should she leave w/o him seeing her?! The only cool thing was that the killer used the girl as bait to take Satoru out of the equation while Satoru thought he was using her as bait for the killer.
Show's been a big letdown plot-wise (though I already didn't like that they switched almost everything to the past setting). I'll finish it of course but that's mainly because the execution of everything else is good.



Admiral Woofington said:
This year's Parasyte.

Relatively strong start and it ended in a whimper.
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I just binge-watched Parasyte and thought it was great. Maybe not the best ending imaginable but it remained true to its themes and didn't pull shit like mentioned above (but it's anyway not really mystery show). Though I strongly resonated with the things that show made you think about, so I'm a bit biased.
 
Somewhat underwhelmed it turned out to be the most obvious candidate, although Satoru talking about how he didn't want to believe it made it bearable.
 
Episode 10

All our doubts were ERASED.

All hope has been ERASED.

Kayo's reunion scene from the manga was ERASED.

Any chance for AOTY is now ERASED.
 
TUSR said:
it wasnt even just "a scene"
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The scene itself was really the only thing that mattered though. It was a really cool sequence, visually. Beyond that it added nothing to the story other than dragging it on further, which is probably why the entire thing was cut out here. :)
 
duckroll said:
The scene itself was really the only thing that mattered though. It was a really cool sequence, visually. Beyond that it added nothing to the story other than dragging it on further, which is probably why the entire thing was cut out here. :)
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I now see why you thought there would be a movie to conclude the series.
 
TUSR said:
I now see why you thought there would be a movie to conclude the series.
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It's still going to be really hard to do everything else in 2 episodes. I just don't see how the final episode will be staisfying if they don't extend the actual finale to a movie or ova. Lol.
 
The last few chapters were soo long and boring (yeah I know the message and all) so I wouldn't mind if they cut a bit more bullshit out of it to make the pace way better. I am surprised how nice this episode was (even the cliche dialogue wasn't cool).

Also for killer flashback
was it after that incident that Yashiro explains his motives?

Edit: Just reread so it is after that and also hmm will be hard for them to do everything in two episodes. I could see a movie doing it justice or OVA
 
duckroll said:
It's still going to be really hard to do everything else in 2 episodes. I just don't see how the final episode will be staisfying if they don't extend the actual finale to a movie or ova. Lol.
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I can see how they could fit everything into 2 episodes, but I doubt it's going to be satisfying.
Especially considering how poor the anime handled the thriller/murderer aspect. Literally every plot hole and contrived reasoning was 'introduced' by the anime because of how they cut and rearranged things.
 
While it was somewhat lame that teacher was revealed as the murderer ... it doesn't rule out that there's another murderer. Since they tried to trick us with both Yashiro and Yuuki, I can't help but think that Yuuki might not be that innocent either. Looking forward to what's coming next.
 
Started reading after where the anime left off. The fuck is this nonsense?
The flashback

Edit: And pretty much done. Good luck to the anime studio. Not sure how they're going to handle the rest of this...
 
Mendrox said:
Why is he a bad character to you?
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Because he's 10 and yet acts like a grown-up, I'm guessing?
Not that I'd want him to be a time-traveller or something silly like that.

Also, it's a shame the series didn't use the fact that Satoru was older that much. I mean, it should definitely make for some interesting / funny situations to have a 29-year-old in a 10-year-old body. Heck, even just school-- wouldn't he suddenly ace everything?
I guess that's not the point of the series and there isn't time anyway. Is there more of it in the manga?
 
duckroll said:
Episode 10

All our doubts were ERASED.

All hope has been ERASED.

Kayo's reunion scene from the manga was ERASED.

Any chance for AOTY is now ERASED.
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Man fuck this.

The Killer should have been Kenya or alternate universe Satoru.

The author had plenty of opportunities to make an interesting twist but chose the lame route.

TUSR was right, Erased ended when Kayo was rescued.
 
If it was an alt timeline of Satoru this would have made the show straight trash status imo.

Like I would be done with it at that point. Ill take the easy answer over a over the top one.
 
Also, if I want to start reading the manga - should I start from the beginning or is there a point I can jump in where it's basically identical?
 
KimiNewt said:
Because he's 10 and yet acts like a grown-up, I'm guessing?
Not that I'd want him to be a time-traveller or something silly like that.

Also, it's a shame the series didn't use the fact that Satoru was older that much. I mean, it should definitely make for some interesting / funny situations to have a 29-year-old in a 10-year-old body. Heck, even just school-- wouldn't he suddenly ace everything?
I guess that's not the point of the series and there isn't time anyway. Is there more of it in the manga?
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In the manga when Kenya asks Satoru "Who are you?" he reveals that because all of them live in Hokkaido they have an accent, and that he noticed that Satoru stopped using that accent (because in the future he lives in Tokyo), then he reveals that to look cool/mature he also tries to speak without that Hokkaido accent. Satoru also mentions that Yuuki tries so hard not to speak with a dialect.

I think those are things that are very difficult to catch by foreign audiences.
 
KimiNewt said:
Also, if I want to start reading the manga - should I start from the beginning or is there a point I can jump in where it's basically identical?
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I recommend starting from the beginning, since there were quite a bit of content that they shifted for the anime adaptation e.g Satoru spending more time with Airi at the start of the manga etc. It's also better for you to do a side by side comparison as to what the manga did better/worse compared to the anime.
 
Iva Demilcol said:
In the manga when Kenya asks Satoru "Who are you?" he reveals that because all of them live in Hokkaido they have an accent, and that he noticed that Satoru stopped using that accent (because in the future he lives in Tokyo), then he reveals that to look cool/mature he also tries to speak without that Hokkaido accent. Satoru also mentions that Yuuki tries so hard not to speak with a dialect.

I think those are things that are very difficult to catch by foreign audiences.
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In the CR subs they changed Yuuki's change of accent into him swearing when he got excited. I guess it's easier and quicker to represent in subs than a change of accent.

MSMrRound said:
I recommend starting from the beginning, since there were quite a bit of content that they shifted for the anime adaptation e.g Satoru spending more time with Airi at the start of the manga etc. It's also better for you to do a side by side comparison as to what the manga did better/worse compared to the anime.
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I second this. The also manga has more time travelling from the beginning, for example, not just the two instances shown in the anime.

One thing you'll notice is that the artstyle is different (ep2 scenes):
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I personally preffer the anime in that regard.
 
CreeperBlocks said:
Man fuck this.

The Killer should have been Kenya or alternate universe Satoru.

The author had plenty of opportunities to make an interesting twist but chose the lame route.

TUSR was right, Erased ended when Kayo was rescued.
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Like.. What is this even.

The last thing I wanted was some garbage timetravel nonsense twist like it was future Satoru. Crazy twist just for the sake of crazy =/= good.
 
PeakPointMatrix said:
Like.. What is this even.

The last thing I wanted was some garbage timetravel nonsense twist like it was future Satoru. Crazy twist just for the sake of crazy =/= good.
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The killer being sensei is fine.
It's just the way the anime handled the clues (read: shoving it in your face at every opportunity) was god awful.
 
The teacher being the killer wasn't the obvious choice, it was the ONLY choice. There were literally no other suspects.

- The killer had to be someone his mom knew.
- The killer had to have some connection to the students at that school.
- The killer had to be a grown male character.

They didn't introduce a gym teacher character, or a principle, or anything like that. Most characters on this show are either kids, or women, and the adult male characters are usually unconnected to the case and are based in the future timeline.

It wasn't that he was obvious, it was that there was literally no one else that it could possibly have been.
 
Goodstyle said:
The teacher being the killer wasn't the obvious choice, it was the ONLY choice. There were literally no other suspects.

- The killer had to be someone his mom knew.
- The killer had to have some connection to the students at that school.
- The killer had to be a grown male character.

They didn't introduce a gym teacher character, or a principle, or anything like that. Most characters on this show are either kids, or women, and the adult male characters are usually unconnected to the case and are based in the future timeline.

It wasn't that he was obvious, it was that there was literally no one else that it could possibly have been.
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Right. The story isn't really about the mystery itself but what Satoru does because of it. The mystery is there to move that a long. That's why there's so much more focus on the kids and Satoru's movements in regards to Kayo instead of focusing on who the killer is.
 
Mendrox said:
Why is he a bad character to you?
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I was buying Kenya for a while - Everything by the beginning of the show is really good so I just accepted that maybe Kenya went through some bad stuff in his life that made him more mature than his classmates. His suspicions and actions are pretty plausible too.

Now... no. And the whole situation is wonky too.
For some reason, these other kids don't find the obviously kidnappy stuff left behind in the bus suspicious? Fine, let's accept that for no good reason. Why then does Kenya just buy into Satoru's story about there being a serial killer targetting specific children in the neighborhood? Shouldn't his first reaction be, "Bro, are you sure you're ok since Kayo left?"

That grin Kenya flashes on the bus during the conversation too doesn't reflect the serious Kenya we're used to seeing who carefully reflects on everything he sees. It says, "Sure, why the hell not? Let's be superheroes!" And I just don't buy it.
 
Shouta said:
Right. The story isn't really about the mystery itself but what Satoru does because of it. The mystery is there to move that a long. That's why there's so much more focus on the kids and Satoru's movements in regards to Kayo instead of focusing on who the killer is.
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Then they should not frame the story as a murder mystery.

Show a scene of the teacher doing murderer-stuff (or hell, even better just show his face to the audience early on in the future), done. Now it's not dumb anymore and the scenes with the teacher and Satoru actually become tense and the focus shifts on the kids/emotional drama.
 
The culprit is obvious, but the reveal is pretty fun. Big complaint for me is how did Satorou never god damn recognize him? He didn't even try to hid himself that much in the future.

Let's talk about the real problem with this show! At no point did Satorou reveal he was a time traveler in a big dumb speech to turn the tables, with the teacher first going to "crazy kid" to a nervous sweat of "shit, is he actually a time traveler." That is all I want right now.
 
SolidusDave said:
Then they should not frame the story as a murder mystery.

Show a scene of the teacher doing murderer-stuff (or hell, even better just show his face to the audience early on in the future), done. Now it's not dumb anymore and the scenes with the teacher and Satoru actually become tense and the focus shifts on the kids/emotional drama.
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The framing is fine, I think. It's just easy to get caught up in it because of how suspenseful it is. Taking a step back and looking at what they're showing makes it very apparent it's not just about the whoddunit. Honestly, I don't think I've seen a mystery that didn't have way more complexity and characters to it, lol.

FlowersisBritish said:
The culprit is obvious, but the reveal is pretty fun. Big complaint for me is how did Satorou never god damn recognize him? He didn't even try to hid himself that much in the future.

Let's talk about the real problem with this show! At no point did Satorou reveal he was a time traveler in a big dumb speech to turn the tables, with the teacher first going to "crazy kid" to a nervous sweat of "shit, is he actually a time traveler." That is all I want right now.
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The reason Satoru doesn't recognize him is because in the original timeline he mentally checked out after all of that happened. The parents tried to make the kids forget about the incidents and he ended up being affected by that profoundly. There's a lot of this setup in the first episode, in fact. It's pretty important but gets lost in the suspense.
 
The only thing that irks me about the series thus far is Satoru's admirable perceptiveness, yet failing to take into account one of the most likely suspects, Mr. Yashiro into account. I guess you can say that Kayo's mom became Satoru's number one concern. He was always most obsessed with saving people instead of tracing it back to the real killer. Fighting the symptom instead of the source.

As for Episode 10, If it were me and I realized this fuck was the killer, I would have grabbed that steering wheel and attempted to crash the car in a public place. That he froze there and and didn't even attempt to free himself until he was in the darkest most isolated place was dumbfounding to me. Although I guess that's what shock does to you.

Ascheroth said:
The killer being sensei is fine.
It's just the way the anime handled the clues (read: shoving it in your face at every opportunity) was god awful.
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I'm more and more siding that this anime makes it clear who the killer is on purpose since the real focus is Satoru's character growth and becoming a real "hero". He is 100% a different person at this point, while having saved three lives or potentially more depending on whether Yashiro calls it quits or not on fulfilling his "desires". That was journey here, and less "detective Satoru".
 
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