Then what is your point? In 1993, Hillary was leading the charge for healthcare reform, and Bernie was...what? In support of it, OK, but doing what for it?
That is the point of the comment.
Hillary:"Where was Bernie when I got healthcare in 93?" Right there, she thanked him
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Then what is your point? In 1993, Hillary was leading the charge for healthcare reform, and Bernie was...what? In support of it, OK, but doing what for it?
That is the point of the comment.
friskykillface
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Haha oh jeez
Doesn't she have people check these facts /statements she makes
Doesn't she have people check these facts /statements she makes
the point is really two fold "asking where was blank when i did X" is clearly implying that she has more experience than blank, in this case Sanders. Which wasn't true at all.
The second point is that if she's this discombobulated going against Sanders, who's not outright attacking her character at all, what's she going to do if she's going against trump who's going to be no holds barred, bringing up everything from Lewinksi to benghazi?
gutter_trash
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OMG
LOL
poor Hillary
LOL
poor Hillary
plasmawave
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Ask Hillary. She's the one who praised his leadership.
I mean, that is absolutely true. How is it not?
XGRaViSmOrSX
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Poor hillary stans grasping at this point, take the L.
crisdecuba
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Yup. Know when to hold em, fold em, walk away, run, and all that.
ArkhamFantasy
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Yes she does, which is what is so concerning.
TheLaughingStock
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Hoho for breakfast
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Or how about because she voted for a war that was complete bullshit? Or her support of NAFTA and the TPP? Your average Joe doesn't even know what the fuck that is even though it could have cost Joe his job. And what about his kids in the future? How about that auto bailout that saved the industry! It's so disingenuous it makes me sick to my stomach.
I can go on but really you could just listen to what Bernie Sanders has been saying for the past 10 months and he'll tell it like it is. You can dismiss him as a broken record but it's because he's repeatedly trying to drive home these issues because they really, really do matter. And if you disagree, great. Go place your vote for Hillary (or whoever you support).
Fine Ham Abounds
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I wish she'd just be quiet until Tuesday. Of course, is this madness going to continue during the GE? Fucking hell.
potatohead
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Clinton is a fucking snake.
She is literally the status quo of stupidity in Washington who can only see so far up their own ass they think it is reality.
She even claimed that Reagan and Nancy Reagan were "helping" to fight the AIDS epidemic.
They fucking ignored it for 5 years!
What about completely making up that Reagan presidents helped to solve the AIDS epidemic in the USA?
If this shit doesn't matter, then nothing does. She says whatever she wants not unlike Trump.
To vote for Clinton over Sanders from the Democratic side is just asking to be lied to for the next 4 years.
Why do people support candidates that say anything to gain support? You're not even getting anything better than Cruz or Trump out of Clinton.
She is literally the status quo of stupidity in Washington who can only see so far up their own ass they think it is reality.
She even claimed that Reagan and Nancy Reagan were "helping" to fight the AIDS epidemic.
They fucking ignored it for 5 years!
What about completely making up that Reagan presidents helped to solve the AIDS epidemic in the USA?
If this shit doesn't matter, then nothing does. She says whatever she wants not unlike Trump.
To vote for Clinton over Sanders from the Democratic side is just asking to be lied to for the next 4 years.
Why do people support candidates that say anything to gain support? You're not even getting anything better than Cruz or Trump out of Clinton.
Your hate for Bernie is really irrational. Plus you know that's not what she meant.
greycolumbus
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That's a pretty weird line of attack.
"And Bernie. Oh man! He was in SUPPORT of my effort! The gall of the man!"
She misspoke. That's all that happened. I don't how or why people are trying to rearrange her statement into anything with sense.
adamsappel
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No, she never said "quick." Her statement is bad enough that you don't need to mischaracterize it.
Some of the stuff you post in defense of Hillary and against Bernie is insane.
You're better than it honestly.
It's not that strange of an attack when her opponent is the true progressive in the race.
She tried to attack him on not being as progressive as her, yet thanked him for being committed to healthcare reform. Bernie standing right behind her has nothing to do with his physical location, but that he was there supporting her. That is the point. You don't attack someone when your words and actions said something completely different. She didn't say, "He didn't do as much as me." She asked where he was. In other words, that he wasn't fighting for the cause. Yet that is clearly not so.
The Sanders campaign tweeted that photograph TO Hilary Clinton 2 months ago. It isn't some secret document pulled out of a microfilm archive.....it's been made very public.
So either you have to believe that Hilary made that statement knowing she would be instantly disproven and look bad, or that her larger point is more about Sanders' distortion of her record. Though from the 20 second clip, it sounds more like she's going into a diatribe about the difficulty of establishing a public health option.
So either you have to believe that Hilary made that statement knowing she would be instantly disproven and look bad, or that her larger point is more about Sanders' distortion of her record. Though from the 20 second clip, it sounds more like she's going into a diatribe about the difficulty of establishing a public health option.
Tesseract
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She's gonna have to bail out soon, she's bringing down the party. Bernie's optimism is a rainbow prism of enlightenment and feels.
Hillary must go back to create a paradox for Bernie, because bernie was always hillary's favorite thing. Nature abhors a paradox.
Hillary cannot stump the trump, life is a lie.
Hillary must go back to create a paradox for Bernie, because bernie was always hillary's favorite thing. Nature abhors a paradox.
Hillary cannot stump the trump, life is a lie.
I agree that this was poor work on her campaign's part. I don't agree that it's an example of willful malice or ignorance on her part.
Bernie has made healthcare reform a cornerstone of his platform, something that Hillary has been fighting for for a very long time. That's what this was (poorly) trying to convey.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/12/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-health-care/index.html
Seems fair to say he was working on healthcare reform as well, not just standing at speeches.
What has happened? I've worked 26 hours past two days, so I've been sleeping mostly on time off.
mugurumakensei
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Her plan was not single payer. It was however pretty much the RomneyCare and ObamaCare first attempt without the pre-existing condition stuff.
Wow... it's like she's trying to double down the uninformed voter. How skeevy.
Unknown Soldier
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Hillary is feeling the Bern, this is twice in two days she said something she instantly regretted.
shinra-bansho
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I mean, that's kind of the obvious point being made. I've been working forever on this. So how have you helped in a meaningful way to achieve this goal? It's not really that different from her debate line about having the scars to prove that she's fought for healthcare.
Sloppy as shit campaigning. No argument there. So it may be that she or her campaign have forgotten about this particular speech, and a [FLOTUS staffer in her handwriting] signed note, despite it being sent to her months ago.
But it seems entirely besides the actual point being made.
And this is something of a sentiment that's shared by other Democrats, from what I recall reading.
That's why I find this so odd. She was already called out on it, sanders kept the receipts.
And Hillary was an unelected First Lady with no legislative experience who was put in charge of the most important health care fight of a generation. Again, it's not hard to be the one up front when your husband creates the position out of whole cloth for you.
I don't that fact matters to them here. At least it feels like it's not recognized. It's not like it's unknown what he's attempted to do for health-care.
Pretty much this.
adamsappel
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Actually, all the competing plans put forth by other Democrats weakened chances for any health care overhaul.
Dreams-Visions
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whoops
Team Filler
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Honest question: at what point can we start attributing these gaffes and misspeaks to Hilarity and not her campaign?
nitekrawlwer
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I'm not sure what Hilary thought she was accomplishing with that line. Unless her goal was to highlight how consistent her opponent has been on the issue.
That's really neither here nor there. The fact is she was leading the charge at that point.
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