Blackleg-sanji1
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The hurdle was Microsofts policy. It is now gone
Microsoft announces Xbox Live cross-network (PSN and other networks) play
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SmartWaffles
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On a totally unrelated note: Heartstone console version might as well be reality.
Short answer: Yes.
Short answer: Yes.
Mass_Pincup
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Sony has been fine with cross play for ages now, why would you expect them to change now?
DeepEnigma
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ComputerBlue
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This is huge and I hope every developer jumps on board. No more worrying about dead lobbies in older games because the numbers will be a lot larger thanks to this.
Yes
This is a good move for Microsoft. They were obviously hoping for people to use Xbox Live and Azure for cross-platform needs, but that didn't happen. And their policy was causing them to miss out on games.
I think the entire reason games like Dead Star and Paragon are de facto exclusives on PS4 is because Microsoft wouldn't allow cross-platform play not on their network. It'll be interesting to see if these games get announced for Xbox One now.
I think the entire reason games like Dead Star and Paragon are de facto exclusives on PS4 is because Microsoft wouldn't allow cross-platform play not on their network. It'll be interesting to see if these games get announced for Xbox One now.
Obliterator
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I'm just assuming that is the stipulation MS will use. They need to get something out of this and their server side of the company is expanding and becoming a monsterous business for them.
I could be wrong of course I'm just guessing thats what the requirement will be. Which isn't really that huge of a deal as the Azure servers are legit.
Diprosalic
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yes, well it basically means that if devs want to do it, MS will allow it.
So in Rocket League, PC players will have to choose between playing with Xbox Live players or PSN players? Obviously you can't have a game with a PSN player, XBL player, and Steam player all in the same game unless Sony agrees as well? And then what happens to console exclusive content? I'm sure Sony wouldn't want Halo's vehicle showing up on their console right?
How does this benefit Sony? When there were calls for this last generation, it didn't happen because Microsoft had a huge lead in console sales and there would've been no benefit to Microsoft opening up their network. Now that they're behind, they want to open it up, but maybe Sony won't want that anymore.
Also publicly coming out and announcing this without having Sony on board makes me feel like they may have already talked to Sony and Sony said no, so now they're getting this out here to force the public to convince Sony? If so, that's a really well played move by Microsoft. I'm just not so convinced Sony just agrees like most people here are assuming.
How does this benefit Sony? When there were calls for this last generation, it didn't happen because Microsoft had a huge lead in console sales and there would've been no benefit to Microsoft opening up their network. Now that they're behind, they want to open it up, but maybe Sony won't want that anymore.
Also publicly coming out and announcing this without having Sony on board makes me feel like they may have already talked to Sony and Sony said no, so now they're getting this out here to force the public to convince Sony? If so, that's a really well played move by Microsoft. I'm just not so convinced Sony just agrees like most people here are assuming.
Protect their market share and revenue streams.
Again, implementing this and any questions like yours will come down to "what the developers decide". They are the ones that need to build it.
I like how he tries to frame it as it was something they, by their good grace, allowed it and not something many has been asking for and critiqued them for. But it's a good wording. Winder how many missed it.
The only thing we have is from SE saying that they didn't want to split their player base. This can be interpreted as Sony was OK with it but not MS. It can also mean nothing.
Mass Effect
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Wow, I can't believe they actually did this.
I hope Sony is open to this. I imagine they will be (I hope).
I hope Sony is open to this. I imagine they will be (I hope).
Moon_frogger
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People think the ball is in Sony's court? Did it ever occur to you why all these cross platform pc games came to Ps4 and not Xbox?
...Why does GAF hate context so much?
I was responding to a discussion where someone was implying they don't see how this means there will be cross play with other consoles since it's still up to Sony. I never said they wouldn't.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Shhhh let the war continue
adamantypants
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So does Microsoft really not want me to buy an Xbox One?
Movalpolos
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Bullshit.
soul creator
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marching towards the inevitable OCF, one step at a time
jeff_rigby
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New 4K Sony TVs are Android TV and I suspect that Sony will allow cross play with the PS4. It then would be an artificial barrier if they don't allow the PS4 cross play with other Android/NX/ ARM game consoles. Sony has plans, I believe, to allow the PS4 to support Playready ND and media sharing over the home network with iOS and Android platforms; Phones, Tablets, TVs, STBs...likely UHD Blu-ray digital bridge too. Game and Media sharing over the home network and outside possibly with DTCP+.
This Playready, Playready ND, Vidipath sharing is I think part of the Microsoft-Sony.com domain registration that happened within weeks of Sony choosing Playready DRM for all their platforms (June 2011).
And "We want to stop giving the PS4 de facto exclusives" (like Paragon and FF XIV), though you might say it's redundant.
justsomeguy
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Source?
JetBlackPanda
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This is exactly what has happened all gen with Sony. Microsoft was not playing ball. I don't get how you can flip the script here.
You can listen to podcasts or read articles that have said Sony doesn't care about cross platform it's always been Microsof that said NO.
Now that Microsoft says ok we allow it, you look like an idiot when you say OK Sony don't be a hurdle!! It's either for the gamers or for Sony.
Also until we know the details we can't say if Sony is on board. There could be some kind of weird demands Microsoft needs for this entire thing.
All im saying is it's a good time to be a gamer let's celebrate together but for fucks sake stop with with " your move Sony" shit. It's playing right into microsoft marketing with this.
PetriP-TNT
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So awesome. Microsoft has been quite awesome lately on all fronts (well, maybe not the Windows Store front)
Only thing bothering me is that it didn't happen until now
Only thing bothering me is that it didn't happen until now
Really curious as to what you think we are actually talking about...
People at Sony must be wondering if they even have to comment on this lol
Baron von Loathsome
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It's over, period. Sony lost their last ace, and that's the end of their PS4 hopes and dreams.
It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for PS4. Sony has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a PS4. Except if they want to play SF5. Which will also come to Xbone at some point.
The age of Sony is done.
It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for PS4. Sony has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a PS4. Except if they want to play SF5. Which will also come to Xbone at some point.
The age of Sony is done.
Obliterator
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Nah I don't think they are killing Xbox. Just that they are transitioning away from the idea of a traditional console cycle.
There is evidence for it everywhere now.
If MS uses that stipulation they might as well call this non-news and fuck-off.
What's stopping Sony from signing a deal with Amazon for exclusive rights to server access and basically take the same stance. In short, nothing.
Just cause MS has a server farm doesn't mean jack bleep. By the stroke of a pen Sony can do the same with a " licensed partner provider (Amazon or whomever)" to ensure the best experience™ for our players paying for PS+ when it comes to cross-platform play w/ Xbox. Third parties pay Amazon, Sony takes a cut.
I wouldn't say I would be surprised if this were true, MS is dumb at times but I don't think that'll be the case here - that'll be too dumb.
Movalpolos
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DeepEnigma
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These are questions we are asking. We are asking if there is a catch, and Azure has to be used.
Yeah it's ridiculous and if developers wanted to do it we would have seen more games with it PS4/PC cross play.
Mass_Pincup
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That doesn't make sense since they're already fine with cross play.
They are already allowing it.
Interesting!!
...Again...I was responding to someone ELSE who was being skeptical of it happening. I completely think it is happening.
Context of posts is required people.
What Microsoft is getting out of this is a larger player base for their own players, along with good will of gamers (as you can see in this thread). The increased player base is especially important for the console that's selling less.
For example, Battlefront has over double the amount of players playing on PS4 (31k) right now vs XB1 (14k). If Microsoft were able to access those additional 31k players, that only benefits their users. Maybe it convinces others to buy it on XB1 instead of just buying it on the console their friends get it on.
justsomeguy
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tbh if they do open it up 3 ways
and Psyonix fix that stupid bug that removed my Warthog
Now, will Psyonix add "XBOX FTW" and "PS FTW" to the d pad please??
I didn't realize. Thanks. Just read more about it. It makes sense for Sony. Their future plans all involve their games in all platforms and PSNOW to be playing in all forms. I just didn't pay attention enough lol