Microsoft announces Xbox Live cross-network (PSN and other networks) play
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Bits N Pieces
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This is certainly cool news but I'm not getting the level of excitement that the rest of you seem to have.
Won't this just help out with smaller or more niche titles?
Won't this just help out with smaller or more niche titles?
We'll see how this plays out, but right now it's sounding pretty good to me.
I hope the merging of all these networks ultimately highlights how asinine is it to pay for online access, & that the two console manufacturers find other ways to add value to their subs (i.e. notions like PS+). Probably won't happen, but I can dream.
I hope the merging of all these networks ultimately highlights how asinine is it to pay for online access, & that the two console manufacturers find other ways to add value to their subs (i.e. notions like PS+). Probably won't happen, but I can dream.
I assume this all the people who exclusively have an XB1 or a PS4 but have friends on the other platform
And if thats the case, I understand the enthusiasm
It'll help out friends who own different consoles.
it's 2016. News is either 'MEGATON' or 'shit sux'. There's no in between.
Zurick
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I'd imagine if this came sooner, games like "The Division" could have taken advantage of this.
Even things with dedicated servers like Battlefield and R6: Siege
If you say so.
Couldn't this have the complete opposite effect of what you're saying because you can play your friends on PS4 and now don't need to get a XB1?
I said or implied they were a charity somewhere in my post. I think this has more to do with the unification of W10 and Xbox.
If Sony was always for this like other posters said, I don't think they see the same issues you do
Herp Derpington
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I'd love to see Destiny adopt this. You could get around the exclusive maps and weapons/armor easily enough. Fireteams might need working out but it's possible. It'd be nice to play my friends from Xbox and PSN at the same time. That'd be cool.
What you said right there is exactly why the big 3rd party who gets the jump on it first is virtually the winner in what I will now call the "New Race to the Moon". You better believe EA, 2K and for damn sure Rockstar are looking at this announcement and frothing at the mouth with the potential for even more earnings. Especially now as E-sports is starting to take off. Cross plat Madden tournaments broadcast via twitch? That term alone sells itself. How long before these tournaments become PPV? You see what I'm driving at? The possible earnings potential become endless when cross-plat is added into the conversation.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
With this helping to increase games longevity, along with MS talking about forward-compatibility, cross buy and their PC integration, has made me more inclined to buy games on the console. Before those ideas always weighed into my buying decisions and made me hesitate a lot and pushed a ton of my game purchases to Steam by default.
Lots of moves that are more in-line with my ideal preferences.
Very fucking cool.
Lots of moves that are more in-line with my ideal preferences.
Very fucking cool.
Magnetic_North
Member
Awesome!!
This is fantastic news I'm really glad the big guys like Phil and Yoshida are eliminating the whole "console wars" rubbish! doesn't matter if you game on Xbox or Playstation you're a gamer
This is fantastic news I'm really glad the big guys like Phil and Yoshida are eliminating the whole "console wars" rubbish! doesn't matter if you game on Xbox or Playstation you're a gamer
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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"Ai yo. Look it's Sony plebs in the lobby. Fucking noobs!"
Wrong. Waiting wouldn't change shit. Crossplay isn't the reason why it's exclusive. It's exclusive because Sony is funding it. Plain and simple, they wanted a Fighter to rival Killer Instinct. Plain and simple.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
This is amazing news if they genuinely support this on both ends! Fantastic for all gamers. However, this is probably the cynic in me but I doubt Microsoft would have allowed this had they maintained their lead in terms of sales and the perceived (if arbitrary) "console war" like they did with the 360.
Pjsprojects
Member
So seems like no point in owning both X1 & PC with all today's news.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
Could MS and Sony be working a deal in which MS leaves the traditional console market for Sony accepting Live as its online Network.
Fuck that exclusive weapons and all.. Wouldn't be fair.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Maybe one year. They were clearly already working on it in a limited fashion and knew where they were taking the series. Probably would've released complete too fwiw.
If Sony adopted MS's software solutions as well, I'm sure they would. I thought that was the entire point of Xbox from the onset.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Yeah, crossplay ain't going to fix the game.
Interfectum
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I wonder if MS patches XBL support into all their versions of minecraft.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Blood will be spilled on consoles. Bans will be handed out on forums. What a time to be alive? You and yours...versus me and mines. We talking PS4? We talking Xbox One. Load up Battlefront 5. Let's get it done
SolidSnakex
Member
Hell no. Sony is making major bank on PSN. There's no way they'd give that up.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
Wouldn't they make more money being alone in the console space
ScatheZombie
Member
It depends on the stipulations Microsoft has put on their system that we don't know yet.
But... for the most part, AAA games have shied away from any cross-platform play to avoid potentially playing favorites and/or tilting their communities. If you are developing a multi-platform title - XB-PS-PC - you (previously) automatically have to develop at least two different server architectures and multiplayer communities because one of them would have to be XB and one of them would have to be PS.
At that point you have the choice between making the PC version XB-PC, PS-PC, or PC unique. And to avoid pissing off one of the major platform holders and to avoid having one potential massive community and one potential tiny community, the answer has almost always been PC unique alongside XB unique and PS unique - splitting the community three ways and attempting to appease everyone equally.
If AAA companies no longer need to separate XB and PS servers and communities, then it becomes a completely different discussion. I would not be surprised to see AAA companies jump on this, simply because more players in mulitplayer extends game longevity - which ultimately leads to more lifetime sales and more DLC/microtransaction purchases.
I really like this idea!
How are they going to manage the PC cheaters? How are they gonna manage the K/B vs controller problem? Are the developers willing to spent a lot of time in creating an unique wrapper interface for all of the platforms? Is sony going to support this iniciative?
I don't know guys but there are still big problems which still need to be solved
I don't know guys but there are still big problems which still need to be solved
Head.spawn
Junior Member
RipperGrim
Member
The console wars are literally gonna start now.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
Exactly thanks for the post, probably sounds more plausible than how I put it.
LOL at Wii at window pic
This, they need to remove any indicator who's playing what platform online, have a big vague symbol like the PSYNET one, otherwise its gonna be shitstorms galore, and no people arent mature enough
I never suggested crossplay is why. If Capcom had not partnered with Sony to bring it out sooner, it still may have come out, but possibly not a console exclusive and with crossplay, just much later and without the Sony eSports backing. The end result might have been the same Sony partnership, but there's also a chance they would have eventually brought it out themselves. The landscape would have been different, so no one knows how it would have played out. I also highly doubt Sony's main reason was to combat KI, which was constantly laughed off because it was Xbox only. Let's not pretend that KI was any kind of threat when it came out.
It may have been much later, but it still could have happened. The common theory is that the partnership expedited it, but didn't necessarily save it from ever not existing. It wasn't necessarily Sony or SFV never happens.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I am sure it can. But MSFT seems to be shifting focus off the Xbox mainly, and more into providing a service, like many have already said over the years. Seems like they have no issue cutting that 'loss' with more service gain, sliding out of the conventional boxed console market we have now.
It will all come down to the details. If it is legit, with no operating income to come on Sony's end, then great, but I do not think we are getting the whole picture yet. Too good to be true, but if so, then bliss?
Bits N Pieces
Member
Thanks for the reply's folks.
I only have an Xbox and so do most of my friends, although there are two pals with only a PS4 so I guess it would be cool if we could all team up in Rocket League or The Division or something else.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out over time and what other surprises they have in store. This press release seems to have been sent out without much fanfare, I wonder what does deserve a Major Nelson video
I only have an Xbox and so do most of my friends, although there are two pals with only a PS4 so I guess it would be cool if we could all team up in Rocket League or The Division or something else.
Going to be interesting to see how this all plays out over time and what other surprises they have in store. This press release seems to have been sent out without much fanfare, I wonder what does deserve a Major Nelson video
Wow,thats huge...
Would be interesting to see online shooter rankings after mouse and keyboard join xbox live
Lol, PSN players sound like they'd be in for the most hurt. At least Xbox owners have the Elite controller. 3rd-party high-performance peripherals exist (like the Xim4) but they have far less exposure.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
They've been talking about adding mouse/ keyboard support since late last summer iirc.
Separating players based on peripheral might end up being a thing.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
Rocket League has allowed kb&m and it has been fine, same with cheaters, too. SFV has also been fine and it has a billion possible ways to play it controller-wise.
For things such as FPSes where there could be a disadvantage the game could just be crossplatform on consoles only. I dunno, there really hasn't been an online FPS that has been popular enough on both PC and consoles at the same time so as for this to be much of an issue anyhow, really. PC and Console players tend to play different FPSes
3rdamention
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To be honest, this is an idea that sounds great, on paper. However, I am going to need to see a game that allows Xbox Live and PSN players to play together online, with my own eyes, before I believe this will actually happen. Xbox 1 and PC Cross Play, sure. I believe it and I get it.
But PSN and Xbox Live? That, I need to see in action. This just sounds like something that Microsoft is saying is available, and they are putting it on devs. However, how easy will it be to implement? How much extra time will be needed to get it working? The PSN and Xbox Live playing together thing just sounds too good to be true, sorry.
But PSN and Xbox Live? That, I need to see in action. This just sounds like something that Microsoft is saying is available, and they are putting it on devs. However, how easy will it be to implement? How much extra time will be needed to get it working? The PSN and Xbox Live playing together thing just sounds too good to be true, sorry.
Same way every other PC game manages cheaters.
This is only really a problem with shooters, and I imagine the answer is "console shooters either won't cross-play with PC or matchmaking with PC users will be off by default."
If they think cross-platform play is important to their game they will, and I suspect devs making multiplayer-focused games will find it important.
At least in theory they always have.