Does that mean Wolf gets to keep saying 'Key Race Alert' once every 2 hours till Friday? Because I'm cool with that.
2 Super 2 Tuesday |OT| I'm Really Feeling (The Bern) (3/15, 3/22, 3/26 Contests)
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CharminUltra
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Returning celebratory cake.
Before the edit, they had said that the amount of absentee ballots wouldn't change the outcome -- also important to note that Trump and Clinton have been winning absentee and early ballots, so even if there were enough to make a difference, they'd probably extend their lead.
The SoS is right that both Trump and Clinton have won.
hahahaha what
They are perennial losers for a reason.
Wow, talk about desperate.
superdeluxe
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Crimson_Gold
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This is not the revolution I was promised.
When you're making this type of argument, you've lost
yeah because dropping and and leaving all your supporters who funded your campaign to fight an important cause is keeping dignity.
? What else is there left to do?
He lost, its over. They can keep fighting for the cause.
RustyNails
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Sanders is taking ON the establishment and all its crazy rules and math.
So instead they should stay around so people can keep donating to a campaign that's basically a zombie?
All he's doing now his damaging the brand of that cause, and his supporters are about to be left alone to "fight an important cause" anyway. Hillary is going to move closer to the center once the GE comes, as all good candidates must if they want to be elected, and then even the whiff of the "message" will be gone while all that remains is the fading memory of a failed revolution which couldn't even elicit a victory over Hillary Clinton during the primary season as he got increasingly, embarrassingly desperate in the seasons final hours.
You know how you fight for the cause? Vote Hillary, get liberal justices nominated, get a case back up to destroy Citizens United and start destroying gerrymandering. That's how you do it. Set a foundation for a liberal court so that when the country actually is ready for a socialist, in twenty or thirty years, they can actually pass some shit.
excelsiorlef
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"embarrassing" to keep the spotlight on the issues he thinks are important?
interesting perspective
regardless of whether or not hillary is changed by this (she obviously won't be, for a million reasons, most of them bad), the more bernie's ideas are in the spotlight, the more people will think about them
interesting perspective
regardless of whether or not hillary is changed by this (she obviously won't be, for a million reasons, most of them bad), the more bernie's ideas are in the spotlight, the more people will think about them
You Know Nothing
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Reddit-math is the future.
Hillary needs to hire whoever is running Trump's Instagram. Say what you want about his politics, but that Instagram provides quality entertainment.
I feel bad for laughing. But it's too ridiculous not to.
To keep spreading the message of the campaign and fighting for tremendous amount of people supporting it. Bringing that message to the front stage against the frontrunner of the party is clearly beneficial to the movement. Also I known on gaf, you can't help but quip everytime this is brought up, and although it is as small as odds as ever for him to win now, it's still not impossible. So he's clearly not going to give up.
*sigh* come on Sanders, it's over and done now. I voted for you yesterday, and I love your message more than Hillary's, but you can't beat Math.
He needs to concede and support Hillary, and maybe he'll get to be her VP or make it to her cabinet. I expect if he gets shut out again next week there will be no way for him to make the argument for staying in.
He needs to concede and support Hillary, and maybe he'll get to be her VP or make it to her cabinet. I expect if he gets shut out again next week there will be no way for him to make the argument for staying in.
Nah, at some stage he'll just pivot back to being message candidate where he lays off Clinton, talks about income inequality and goes all in on the GOP. If he continues jabbing Clinton after New York than he'll just look like an asshole.
No, embarrassing to now suddenly start desperately trying to court superdelegates - which previously his campaign derided and pretty much ALL his supporters did - as a way to subvert the comically large vote total lead and delegate lead Hillary has. I mean, that's basically what they're reduced too. This so-called Democratic socialist revolutionary is now resorting to simple political tricks (one that has no shot at doing anything anyway) in order to try to keep his message going? Sorry, that's why politics is more nuanced than "WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS STUFF FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE."
Well, good luck with all that thinkin', because the country has a memory of a mustard seed, and Bernie's already meager media coverage is about to dip to near zero.
More like we were absolutely right and got shit on about how shortsighted we were all along. Then when it turns out we were accurate, and weren't making up numbers or carrying overweight assumptions, you suddenly don't want us to talk about it any more?
This outcome has been a long time coming. The reasons it has been coming never changed; you can be upset that it turned out that way, but you don't get to end all discussion surrounding the matter just because it hurts your feelings that we were right.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
If there is no path forward and all they can do is try and play desperate backdoor games, it doesn't put him in a positive light. Everything he is working towards will be shaded by his campaign's implosion.
shinra-bansho
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He doesn't actually need to keep running to keep a spotlight on or make a difference to the issues he cares about. There are probably better things to spend on then ads trying to tie Clinton to Rahm Emanuel for instance to help his causes.
I disagree with your thought of the "brand of the cause" being damaged. There's almost nothing to support that and almost everything to prove that wrong. Voting for hilary in the primaries is not fighting for the cause. Unless your speaking about the GE which your presuming my position on wrongly.
Media spotlight will turn immediately off on him after he drops out.
Can't disagree with you more here.
Mad he's trying to court superdelagates to help him win the bid? If anything it's just telling them, "look at our numbers, the people want this." Yet Hilary's whole career is catering to whoever needs it and it is ok. Love this.
RustyNails
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They will be unbound on the second ballot, iirc.
Marco's delegates still vote for him in the first round of voting, if it goes to a second round they can vote for whoever they want to.
Haha, jesus. If it makes you happy to think that, be my guest. It's like when I posted about electibility in the GE, and people kept posting GE match ups to demonstrate Bernie has a better shot than Hillary. Is this their first election season that they have no reference for how worthless those polls are? But nope, that's "evidence." So it's all nonsense, and he's destroying the little good he was doing by going this path... but hey, keep the fight up soldiers. You might get ten whole more people to discuss his message before everyone forgets Bernie Sanders was ever a thing in a year.
shinra-bansho
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You don't actually need a media spotlight to make a difference for good or bad. See ALEC. Not the Baldwin brother. Or Democracy for America.
JesseEwiak
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Since his campaign is just 'suspended', he keeps those delegates to the convention.
But on the first ballot, they still have to vote for Marco?
EDIT: Subsequent posters say yes!
Interesting; guess he's inclined to keep them tied to him to increase the chances of a round 2, right?
teruterubozu
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Depends. He hasn't officially called anything. He can either completely withdraw by filing the papers then the delegates are up for grabs again, or he can "suspend" his campaign and keep the delegates and do nothing. If the delegates get freed up again, they will be wined and dined all over again - they are people and can choose where to go.
exmachina64
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So this is the real reason why Bernie's going to stay in the race until the convention: he's going to motivate the delegates to break ranks and vote for him.
I love it! It's just so stupid -- like Trump!
Voting in a corporate shill is not fighting the cause that Bernie stands for.
Sorry I stopped thinking about the world in black and white when I was fifteen. You might want to have that debate in Civics 101 or some shit.
I want to believe it is his people and not him being silly. He needs to reign them in
You're complaining about sanders supporters bringing up GE polls, but honestly the way you bring them up here is probably more irrelevant then when they ever did.
Crimson_Gold
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The Berniebros were accurate reflections of the campaign all along
He will by Monday. I guarantee talks are going on right now, as his rather strong showing earned him some political capital to spend.
Someone floated the idea of him actually staying in to double team the GOP, He would just agree to lay off all attacks on Clinton. It be 100% about his vision, and I think the media would be weirdly fascinated by it. He'd get to play the bad cop to the gop.
Basically a full time campaigner of where the party is headed, if you help us now.
Voting for Trump isn't either but you do you.
metalslimer
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The sanders campaign talking about the will of the people while saying they could try to ignore the will of the people? Hypocritical and as slimy as it comes.
You don't. But if your trying to argue it doesn't help and expose your message to potential supporters, I don't know what else to say.
teruterubozu
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This is really the best course. I'm afraid general enthusiasm will take a huge hit if Bernie simply disappears.
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