StrongBlackVine
Banned
That guy lies about everything. By far the worst of that bunch and that is saying something. Last week he was claiming Uncharted 4 would play like a Telltale game.
The Division - Review Thread
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That guy lies about everything. By far the worst of that bunch and that is saying something. Last week he was claiming Uncharted 4 would play like a Telltale game.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Toyally agree with this. I am enjoying the game a lot but it has issues. A lot of games do. We should be better at admitting that there's things we like and things we don't about our entertainment.
One thing I know with the division is it is very successful and ubisoft have the manpower to support it with content. So here's to year one. Hope they build on the pretty solid foundation
Like you said,Those types of people exist on both sides. Wait for the comments section for the site that gives uncharted a 7 or 8 lol
Tainted
Member
Destiny ended mid 70's...so Division a better game confirmed
I couldn't give a rat's ass about metacritic scores...I am enjoying it and that's all that matters
My most anticipated reviews this year just for the possible meltdowns lol
It we could get something like the U3 review thread i'd be forever happy
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Me too because that would mean Uncharted 4 is 90+ and a strong GOTY contender. Of course a lot more is expected from Naughty Dog than anything made by Ubisoft. If Uncharted 4 scored an 81(or even an 85) Neogaf might be shut down for days and the thread would be a mass grave.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Of course he doesn't It's a big titled/huge selling game that has been reviewing quiet well.
I look forward to the "Ubisoft....You done fuck'd it up!!!"
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Inb4 things they already admitted to cutting out years ago during development, (the drone, stealth kills, WIP HUDs), being classified as "misleading." Also inb4 he uses the word "lazy" again to describe a design decision. He's been using that word lately, (Battlefront review for instance) & it's really been grating to see, as someone who's met so many devs he should know better than to cite laziness whenever it suits him.
Eh?
This makes no sense.
He gave TW3 and MGS V very high scores which were also massive titles that sold and reviewed very well.
I find with a lot of these angry / cynical personalities, actual facts are often skewed, or completely ignored to suit the "bad publisher tranna steal your monayz" narrative. Which is infuriating because then you get idiots with no idea about how development actually works parroting it off here as well.
(See the thread about Ubisoft developers focus-testing their games and the idiotic "I'm not surprised they design their games by committee" bollocks that ensued).
StrongBlackVine
Banned
He has praised plenty of huge selling/popular games. Not a big fan of Joe's work, but you will need to find another angle to discredit his opinion.
No, people questioned not sending out review copies and for a good reason when it comes to Ubisoft.
Because that is all it is. You replay the same missions over and over to get a currency to buy better loot to replay the same missions over and over again to get the currency again. The challenge modes and Phoenix Currency amounts to no real new content.
Very rarely though since going rogue is just a shits-n-giggles thing now. It's a lot more reliable and safe to just hunt regular NPCs, look for chests and turn in the loot you get from those. The payoff from surviving a manhunt is too little compared to the risk you run of getting killed and loosing a ton of your shit.
AncientDiety
Banned
Interesting narrative you are trying to create..to bad it's simply not true. He has loved many AAA well reviewed games like MGS V, Witcher, Bloodborne, Last of us, GTA V etc...
Well in this case there is also the Vivendi thing. And seeing that the Ubisoft stock has gained more than 8 dollars since the announcement of the Division beta date I could see that the higher ups didn't want to take any risks with this title. If the Division underperformed we would've likely seen a Vivendi takeover not too long from now. With the success that it is now it gives Ubisoft some more breathing room to look for multiple investors instead of falling in the hands of a single investor.
I'm only level 12, only did the first 3 mandatory missions so far, just running around unlocking and doing the side stuff... and I have no idea how anyone could believe that is true...
Dougieflesh
Member
Super conspiracy theory. Also, good grief at those comments.
Xamtheking
Member
The Division |OT3| Welcome to Burger King
Anton Sugar
Member
I don't think this is the case at all. The OT is full of criticism of the Dark Zone's mechanics. Everyone acknowledges that it needs serious rework.
Mass Appeal
Member
Well in pve I would agree, Division does have more then vanilla destiny at launch. VOG came out at the end of that week so there was a raid first week of the game which is still the best raid in that game even with TTK out.
There was no base building in Destiny though which imo is great in Division. I reached level 20 Destiny much faster then I reached level 30 in THE Divison but the leveling was different because after 20 in destiny yoy needed to run VOG to raise your LL. I love both games though. I have over a 1000 hours In Destiny and already 50 hours in The Division and I don't see myself putting either down for a while.
PvP wise though, Destiny had more with crucible..sure Iron Banner and Trials didn't come a later but the game still had a pure dedicated pvp mode and that had a lot of replay value just because of that awesome FPS gameplay Destiny has. The DZ in Divison is really fun and full of fun and crazy moments but it's not a true pvp mode.
I can't wrap my head around that IGN review though. Reading the review, it sounded atleast a 7.5 to 8. I think Polygon and Gamspot have had the best reviews on this game so far. Very honest and fair.
ethomaz
Banned
Because there are more things to do in Destiny??? The end of game in Destiny is way more rich too.
This is starting to become sad.
Interficium
Banned
I think it's a tin foil theory that IGN didn't even play the game all based upon the fact that the IGN reviewer didn't, by name, mention "Phoenix Credits" when talking about the thin endgame.
He also sat out their "end game discussion" episode of Division HQ... which I didn't actually watch though cause they go full spoiler with the story :/
Gold_Loot
Member
Right now? Sure. At launch, God no. It was what, 5 strikes and a raid? There's certainly more to do in Division , especially when you consider build options and talents.
I think once we get our incursions going, and they flesh out pvp rewards, things will pick up for sure.
ethomaz
Banned
At launch...
- 6 sub-classes
- 22 story missions
- 5 Strikes * 6 if you are on PS
- Nightfall mode
- 1 Raid * open in the same release week
- 7 Crucible modes
- 10 Crucible maps * 11 if you are on PS
- Crucible Iron Banner * first event scheduled a month after release
- Daily and weekly events for PVP and PVE
- Bounties
- Public Events
I'm possible forgetting something but that was what Destiny have at launch.
That is why you have a lot to play End Gaming in Destiny compared with Division that in less than one week people already hit a wall... to reach that wall in Destiny you needed to play crazy for at least one month (that was what you need to reach max light level).
But well it is my opinion of course... people played Destiny vanilla daily because there are content for that.
Mass Appeal
Member
Idk man, I have played both games and will continue to play both(have divison gold edition and that April Destiny update) but I was there for both launches and while vanilla Destiny will always hold a special place in my heart, The Divison has more pve content. PvP Destiny for sure, but pve I have to give it to The Divison. I have almost 50 hours played and just hit level 29 and have all the safe house unlocked to show all the missions and there is a lot on that map to do.
Now I am talking quantity of quality here when it comes to the Divison because in terms of quality, the VOG is the far Superior experience in either game. It's still the best raid in Destiny and probably one of the best coop experiences ever. PvP year one in Destiny was amazing too with House of Wolves pvp meta being the peak.
Gold_Loot
Member
See, now you're comparing a full game, to end game. Huge difference here.
ethomaz
Banned
Wut? The end game is part of the full game... Destiny had more content to people play than Division.
BTW why people try to separate PVP from PVE... you play both and both are part of the full package.
Mass Appeal
Member
Having played both I can't agree.
Have you tried The Division? It has a lot of content plus they will be adding to the DZ and Incursions are coming.
MASSIVE can make changes to the Division meta and add features pretty quick with that engine and no last gen holding it back unlike Destiny where it took 24 hours just to move one chest.
Have you tried The Division? It has a lot of content plus they will be adding to the DZ and Incursions are coming.
MASSIVE can make changes to the Division meta and add features pretty quick with that engine and no last gen holding it back unlike Destiny where it took 24 hours just to move one chest.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
It's not. Destiny launched with so little it's embarrassing for a full price game but ofcource if you consider same exact missions and PvP over and over new content then yeah.
But with Bungie support overtime and DLC/updates the game is in better state now.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Another meltdown in 3....2....1
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Metacritic would be a lot more ridiculous if it counted every full time youtuber. I imagine it only counts Jim Sterling because of his website and past experience in gaming journalism.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And where are the lines between people like AJ, and 'professional journalists'? I am no AJ fan, but he covers things about gaming just as good if not better than a lot of these 'official channels', especially the ones that seem to give almost every hot new game perfect scores more often than not.
I think people who are elevated enough to have a lucrative business out of it, is just as 'professional'. Ads? check. Gaming coverage? check. Make a living off of it? check. More popular than some of the sites they allow? check.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I wouldn't say that at all, Joe has a tendency to be more upfront about common gamer criticisms, "Please don't make it a port." but also resorts to having the worst of those gamer criticisms, "No SP mode?! How LAZY!" "They're selling us a legitimately unfinished game because there is planned dlc which should've been part of the main game!" There is a fine line between someone like Jason Schreier and Angry Joe in terms of getting pertinent knowledge out there. I mean just check the news section on his website. I wouldn't consider that covering gaming news, (which he rarely actually does btw just some controversies).
Fuuuuck no, Destiny was a pile of shit at release. While The Division is amazing.
Darryl M R
Member
Yea it makes little sense why AJ isn't on metacritic. Metacritic could easily have an agreement with certain youtubers based on size to count their score. His reviews are sometimes more indepth than others with gaming sites.
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