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What is the epitome of bad or generic anime?
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Violence Jack
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When I think of bad anime! I think of stuff like Vampire Wars or Psycho Driver.
When I think of generic anime, I think of stuff like Please Teacher, Cybernectics Guardian, and School Days
When I think of generic anime, I think of stuff like Please Teacher, Cybernectics Guardian, and School Days
I likedon't it.
I liked Angel Beats. Sword Art Online should have stopped after Aincrad. I only got 2 episodes into the FPS thing before stopping.
umop_3pisdn
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Yup. YYH and Hunter x Hunter are both a masterclass in how to do shounen well.
SigmasonicX
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The big complaints I've seen crop up during the Toonami airing are that:
1. The main character, Kirito, is a perfect guy that wins every fight and gets every girl, while also being boring.
2. The female lead, Asuna, is initially presented as strong and independent, but quickly becomes a damsel that has to be saved by Kirito.
3. There is a lot of pandering to teenage male viewers, particularly through close ups of T&A. This is most notable in the second series, where there are constant close ups of Shinon's butt, and in the second half of the first series where Asuna's nature as a damsel is greatly fetishized.
4. They try to present a mass-murderer as sympathetic.
5. The concepts of a VR world aren't well thought out. In particular, after leaving Sword Art Online, the series has a hard time justifying that there are any real stakes to what's happening.
6. One of Kirito's harem members is his cousin, who was raised as his sister.
The problem with going for cliches is you really need the foundation to appreciate what it tries to do and how it fails. Like most of tropes were good ideas and came from somewhere but have been overused and abused since. Shonen series like Bleach or stuff like SAO are popular for a reason, their schtick actually works until you get sick of it from seeing it too many times.
The Silver
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School Days, generic? Hate it all you want but don't sit there and lie and call it generic, harem anime where the guy actually has sex with all the girls and it isn't a hentai? Unheard of. And that ending, comedy gold.
Could it be that Hunter x Hunter is an ideal embodiment of all those tropes, though? Kind of like how Trails in the Sky is a blatantly tropey JRPG but executes it so well that a lot of people like me love it? Though I haven't seen HxH to know for myself.
Yeah, I've likened Bleach battles to being like playing Smash Bros with everyone starting at 300%. Seems like every attack should DESTROY the enemy, but then they survive and deal their own and this keeps going on until finally one of them actually loses Especially this arc, it's like they hit the other guy just as they're flying out and only lose because they hit the boundary first.
Sword Art Online is both bad and generic!
Well maybe the show isn't but the source material sure is.
Well maybe the show isn't but the source material sure is.
Ask for recs on MyAnimeList and there's your list of trash anime OP. Make sure your friend watches Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
Sho_Nuff82
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Bleach peaks at the climax of the Soul Society arc. Specifically Ichigo vs Byakuya, and the villain reveal is really well done.
After that the power levels stop making sense, they completely abandon the idea of injuries mattering (several characters survive being literally cut in half), several characters bafflingly don't use their full power because the author hadn't dreamed them up yet for that arc, and the plot goes staggeringly dumb places.
Definitely still has some cool moments, but you'll probably want to shoot yourself before the Hueco Mundo arc ends, and the Fullbring arc is worse than the filler.
Pop-O-Matic
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Sadly the only thing future shonen writers would crib from YYH was to make sure your Vegeta-clone is extra pretty so you can draw in the ladies.
SigmasonicX
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Now that's not true.
Bleach straight up stole power-ups and arc concepts from Yu Yu Hakusho. Even in filler.
Frozenprince
Banned
Which is sad because as far as Shounen power-sets go, it's probably the best ever conceived.
It all just makes NO sense.
Dash_Riprock
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Bleach is essentially YYH remade by Michael Bay.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Someone should link firehawk12 post about Sword art online 
WhiskerFrisker
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Get the heck out of here with this bullshit.
I see most of the offenders has mentioned. Owari no Seraph is pretty generic as well.
LordOfChaos
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This doucheprickle is such a huge ass marty sue. Could not get more than 6 episodes into this series despite several friends loving it and pressuring me into watching more.
Gentleman Jack
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Oreimo
Chuunibyo
Nisekoi
Basically anything with socially inept leads and huge female harems.
Chuunibyo
Nisekoi
Basically anything with socially inept leads and huge female harems.
...Scatter...
Banned
So much edge in here. I say go for Girls und Panzer.
Kayo Police
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Kantai Collection can go get scuttled.
Absolutely hate this show.
Absolutely hate this show.
WhiskerFrisker
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This hot piece of garbage.
Literally adds all the anime tropes known to man into one big pile of shit.
1,000% agree. It pissed me off when I looked up the admittedly great opening on Youtube and the comments talked about it being the greatest anime. Like what the hell?
Andrew Korenchkin
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Elfen Lied. Fuck Elfen Lied.
Dash_Riprock
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Can someone please elaborate on the Sword-Art Online hate? I only saw a couple episodes on Toonami and Netflix and, while nothing stellar or exceptional in any way, it at least had a semi-interesting premise (even .hack did it all before) and nothing exceptionally terrible that I could see.
I thought it was enjoyable. It's nothing too great nor bad. I figure the hate stems from just how popular it is.
...Scatter...
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It was fine for what it was. Like the first arc. Took a couple of weird turns.
SigmasonicX
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And as for why it's so hated, it's the reaction of, "Why is something so mediocre so incredibly popular?!"
EDIT: Oh, and I should point out that even the stuff that isn't egregiously bad is just mediocre. What is has going for it are: good music, appealing character designs, and some flashy fight scenes. What it doesn't have are characters you can connect with and a well-thought-out story. With the fight scenes, there are rarely any real stakes or meaning.
Frozenprince
Banned
It takes it's premise, does nothing with it, and makes it's main character swim in booty while being a Jesus figure on three (four if you count the LN) completely separate occasions.
DXLelouch153
Banned
This hot piece of garbage.
Literally adds all the anime tropes known to man into one big pile of shit.
so much potential
and then it just shit the bed
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Sword Art Online by a mile.
Dusk Soldier
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The main issue with SOA is that while it starts off with an interesting premise about players trapped in an MMO.
It really just ends up being a harem anime, where the main character is impossibly invincible, with anime babes throwing themselves at him left right and center.
It's nothing like what the initial marketing/press sold it as.
Dash_Riprock
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Thanks guys.
Also, while far, FAR from bad IMO, the second season of Gundam 00 is a more standard, by- the-numbers Gundam series than the awesome deconstructing first season. Not bad, but certainly more generic.
Where to begin?
The show's protagonist, Kirito, is a perfect wish-fulfillment Gary Stu. He's super strong, all the ladies love him, and he's only a teenager. This also makes him insanely boring.
The female lead Asuna starts out strong, but soon becomes the damsel and can't survive without Kirito's dick.
All the female supporting characters fall in love with Kirito, but it won't matter as he ends up with Asuna and they just tag along angry they can't have him.
There are male supporting characters... but they don't really do much.
The show's writing is abysmal. It all goes downhill hard in Episode 3 when Kirito joins a guild, becomes friends with the shy girl (because animoo) and then the entire guild dies because they fell for the most obvious fucking trap ever! It's sad when the Abridged Series mocking SAO does a better job with Kirito's PTSD than they did here (in that he completely forgets about it after the episode).
The first arc ends with the villain stating he forgot why he trapped everyone in the game. Then in future arcs they try to make him out to be a hero with all these amazing ideas. Even though he was responsible for the deaths of 10,000 people.
After the first arc, the titular game is gone. Along with the death penalty. Hence, all tension from the other games are gone. Hence for the second arc, they introduce this over-the-top creepy raper guy that Asuna would be forced to marry cause Japanese business practices. She can't object because she's still trapped in an online game, somehow transferring from SAO to another one.
So Kirito goes in with all his stats from SAO (because shut up), and ends up teaming with his cousin who has a creepy crush on him (and big tits, the show does not want you to forget that aspect). Oh and there's also Kirito and Asuna's "daughter", she was in the first arc and she came back here. I've only seen the dub but I can't imagine her constant calls of "Mommy! Daddy!" are any better in Japanese.
I could go on about the failures of the second season, how the second half almost had a good thing going until they tried to make the mass murderer into a hero again, or the complete slaughter of Sinon's character, but this shit is long enough already
The lead of Oreimo isn't socially inept in the typical harem romcom sense. He does inexplicably trainwreck by the end, though.
I mean, you have NIsekoi listed, so you know what the real deal is.
Crossing Eden
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Not really but seriously fuck Sword Art Online. Had toonami on in the background, and that dialogue is so goddamn terrible. Anime already has issues with stilted dialogue and horrid acting, but that shit is next level stilted. Also would throw any anime that starts with a black haired self insert boring dude who's bored with life looking out a school window into the mix.
Yooo I got randomly suggested this video of his on YouTube and he sort of summed up why I've stopped enjoying anime for a long time.
NSFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzocnfLccs8
SoundPulse
Banned
Kampfer sucks and is pretty much my baseline for bad anime.
For generic, I guess Nisekoi or Fairy Tail. It kinda works for Nisekoi, though.
For generic, I guess Nisekoi or Fairy Tail. It kinda works for Nisekoi, though.
chaobreaker
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I would say Fairy Tale because it looks like a bargain-bin version of One Piece.
I generally mark any harem anime in a high school setting as being generic and bad.
I generally mark any harem anime in a high school setting as being generic and bad.
timmyp53
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Oh man this video is ace.
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