Early impressions start rolling out for Batman v. Superman

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I'm sorry, I just read that Mexican review of the movie from the premiere (My friend saw it in Mexico City too) and he outright says that he's a unabashed DC fanboy and calls it "the greatest superhero movie ever", while the rest of his "review" is mostly hyperbole about being "part of history" because he was able to attend the premiere.

In fact, he starts-off by saying how great it was to have been invited to the Mexican premiere of the movie, and then just says that it's also the best recent blockbuster, even more so than The Force Awakens.
 
SomewhatGroovy said:
I'll never be able to unsee Ben Affleck being Ben Affleck in a batman suit.



Keaton has a far more nuanced performance and he clearly displayed someone out of touch with reality, basically who Bruce is and something even Bale admitted he didn't nail. The scene with Keaton and Kim Bassinger in the batcave when she finds out who he is is fucking amazing.
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I've seen that scene and it's nowhere near amazing but to each his own I guess. Keaton's best part about Batman is that it's not hot garbage like everyone else until Bale. I don't think it's nuanced, it's just not in character. 1 dimensional character is apparently nuanced now.... Most people who overrate his performance seem to be people who watched when it initially came out..
 
Joeytj said:
I'm sorry, I just read that Mexican review of the movie (My friend saw it in Mexico City too) and he outright says that he's a unabashed DC fanboy and calls it "the greatest superhero movie ever", while the rest of his "review" is mostly hyperbole about being "part of history" because he was able and was "honored" for being at the event.

In fact, he starts-off by saying how great it was to have been invited to the Mexican premiere of the movie, and then just says that it's also the best recent blockbuster, even more so than The Force Awakens.
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Biased or not, that's not exactly a hard bar to leap over.
 
Honestly, I've warmed up to the idea that Affleck could be good in the role but the claims of a new Batman being the "best Batman ever" sound like pretty typical hyperbole for the character. If impressions were praising Affleck, that would be one thing, but the all too commom phrase sounds more like people projecting on a performance that does nothing offensive to ruin the character. In fact, it sounds like more praise for the suit and it's action on screen than the man in it.

Batman looks cool, to be sure, I just can't take that claim at face value.
 
I'm kind of wondering why we're still doing the "early impressions" game here, since everyone seems to have internalized the narrative that "early impressions" are hugely unreliable, and at a certain point the conversation becomes less about the actual early impressions and more about the psychology behind why people are saying the (presumably incorrect) things they're saying about the movie's quality.
 
LevelNth said:
I enjoyed MoS, but I agree with you here. Every time I watch it and right after the great scene of Supes busting up the terraforming machine by flying through it happens and they have that shot of him reaching for the sun, I'm shocked they didn't put in a flashback scene with his Dad there.

It was a perfect opportunity and the pacing has slowed so it's not as if it would've dragged the film at that point. Such a shame.
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I get teary eyed every time, he would have died for us to live. ;''(
 
Bobby Roberts said:
I'm kind of wondering why we're still doing the "early impressions" game here, since everyone seems to have internalized the narrative that "early impressions" are hugely unreliable, and at a certain point the conversation becomes less about the actual early impressions and more about the psychology behind why people are saying the (presumably incorrect) things they're saying about the movie's quality.
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Because people want to still see them?
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
Keaton has to have one of the most overrated performances of all time. He was a pretty bad Bruce and great Batman. The guy acts nothing like Bruce. With his acting ability, I have to accept that he never read a comic because the guy didn't seem to know shit about Bruce Wayne based on his portrayal. He was a 1 dimensional cool rich guy with no depth at all during Bruce's portrayal. Bale always did Bruce as an amazing job but had that awful Batman voice as Batman.

Keaton was solid, Bale was pretty good. All other Batmans were awful.
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Keaton's Bruce Wayne was really weird. Not necessarily bad, I didn't dislike it, but he just seemed really oddly aloof.
 
The Icon said:
Everyone. You do realize the review embargo ends tomorrow, right? Any worthwhile reviewer saw it over the course of the past week.
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I'm talking about those positive reviews which are out right now, this thread is about a bunch of early impressions from seeming fanboys.
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
I've seen that scene and it's nowhere near amazing but to each his own I guess. Keaton's best part about Batman is that it's not hot garbage like everyone else until Bale. I don't think it's nuanced, it's just not in character. 1 dimensional character is apparently nuanced now.... Most people who overrate his performance seem to be people who watched when it initially came out..
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You haven't provided a single specific example of why Bale's Bruce was better though. You're just shooting down what other people are using to show that Keaton's Bruce had some depth to him. For the record I don't hate Bale's Bruce, but his Bruce is only solid in Batman Begins and then his Bruce becomes a one-dimensional plank of wood in the sequels while every other character upstages him.
 
Ahasverus said:
First review (this time for real) in a mexican newspaper (in spanish obviously)
http://www.milenio.com/firmas/alvaro_cueva_elpozodelosdeseosreprimidos/Batman_vs_Superman-Hombre_de_acero-Ben_Affleck_18_705109492.html
"We're before something strong, powerful, perfect"

So, I'm like, trainwreck you say? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
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Ame Batman Vs Superman! Me volvio loco. Me Hizo soñar, reir, temblar, gritar y hasta suspirar
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I loved Batman Vs Superman! It drove me crazy. It made me dream, laugh, tremble, scream and even sigh.
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Let's hope for all of these things.
 
Sephzilla said:
You haven't provided a single specific example of why Bale's Bruce was better though. You're just shooting down what other people are using to show that Keaton's Bruce had some depth to him. For the record I don't hate Bale's Bruce, but his Bruce is only solid in Batman Begins and then his Bruce becomes a one-dimensional plank of wood in the sequels while every other character upstages him.
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Bale had atleast something resembling an arc or motivation. Keaton was just kinda there.
 
Alandrus Sun said:
I'm talking about those positive reviews which are out right now, this thread is about a bunch of early impressions from seeming fanboys.
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No one said reviews. We said impressions. And unless you went to every single Twitter profile and read "I'm a fanboy" then you really have nothing to back your statements up with. Even here you say "seeming". You are projecting your own feelings on other peoples statements.

Maybe the movie is shit but discounting every single person who said something positive is ridiculous.
 
liquidtmd said:
Ben Affleck Vs that other guy
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LegendofDragoonLives said:
Should be the title of the OT ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Lebron said:
Yeah, he has the charisma of a wash cloth. Good thing he's a looker to save him though.
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bangbang i'm a timpani said:
nobody is seeing this for cavill though
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For the past couple of years, I've really tried seeing Cavill through the lenses of the people that hated MoS and I just don't see it. For me he has been the best live action superman by a New York mile. I grew up on Christopher Reeves, too, but Cavill had everything in that movie and I guess it just comes down to if you like MoS or not. I get that people love Bats, and Baffleck is likely going to be lots of fun to watch. However, it's so rare that I've seen a Superman that I actually enjoyed. Outside of the first half of the first Donner movie (and of course Superman 2), or the WB animated series, I've not enjoyed the non-comic book version of the character. Ever.

Even in the comics, if it wasn't Alan Moore or Grant Morrison writing him, I never dug the character alone, and usually only in relation to another character.
Anyway, I'm ranting on a tangent. Cavill is was easily 100% the best Superman I've seen, and sometimes the hate is a little surprising.
 
The Icon said:
No one said reviews. We said impressions. And unless you went to every single Twitter profile and read "I'm a fanboy" then you really have nothing to back your statements up with. Even here you say "seeming". You are projecting your own feelings on other peoples statements.

Maybe the movie is shit but discounting every single person who said something positive is ridiculous.
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I discount the early impressions of random people for any film.
 
I will say, it does hurt one's ego to hear their opinions kind of dismissed outright or lumped into one... aren't all early impressions usually positive.

Doesn't mean couldn't have legit enjoy it!
 
Sephzilla said:
In Begins, sure. His arc in the sequels (specifically his Bruce arc) is him being mopey for being in the friend zone.
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Rises was a weird movie, and I could get into that another time, but atleast Dark Knight bothers to ask "what is Bruce's endgame?" Him trying to find a way out is a valid way to take that character.
 
Bronx-Man said:
Biased or not, that's not exactly a hard bar to leap over.
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Yeah, which is why I'm suspicious. But the reviewer isn't really a reviewer. He's an entertainment reporter mostly in Mexico and probably famous for being one of the first and few writers in a mainstream media company that talks about foreign entertainment, and as I said, most of his article sounds like well executed fanboyism massaged by days of PR.

He was mostly excited to have seen the movie before anyone else.
 
Blader said:
Keaton's Bruce Wayne was really weird. Not necessarily bad, I didn't dislike it, but he just seemed really oddly aloof.
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Seph's view is one of the most ridiculous opinions I've ever heard, especially as he saw Bale as 1 dimensional and nuanced Keaton as having depth (...).
Sephzilla said:
You haven't provided a single specific example of why Bale's Bruce was better though. You're just shooting down what other people are using to show that Keaton's Bruce had some depth to him. For the record I don't hate Bale's Bruce, but his Bruce is only solid in Batman Begins and then his Bruce becomes a one-dimensional plank of wood in the sequels while every other character upstages him.
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How was he 1 dimensional? All his scenes with Alfred. His scene with Harvey at dinner is how you portray a nuanced bruce playboy. Rachel scenes. I don't know how the hell someone can say 1 dimensional for 2 and 3 considering Bruce is a different character in both movies.
 
Alandrus Sun said:
A bunch of comic nerds blessed with an early screening gave positive impressions of said film? Shocking.
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wined dined and 69'd
happens for every nerd movie.


the bar for being the best Batman is incredibly low. Bale was such a snoozer they might as well cut him out of the Dark Knight movies.
 
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