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Bobby Roberts said:
I think my threshold for surprise is that 150 number. If it makes less than that this weekend, then I think I'll have misjudged the immediate potency of this narrative that's already setting in the entertainment press (Variety/THR have both already done articles solely about the RT rating, full of choice negative quotes - the negative feedback cycle is already spinning up like the Hadron Collider)
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Sounds about right for me too. < 150M would be shocking.
 
It's sad.
Most of DC-Gaf was all confident that the movie was gonna be good...


Then we got the wind knocked out of us.
But Marvel-Gaf has comforted us after the punch landed.

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ThoseDeafMutes said:
I'm already preparing the underground gaf counter-cycle. Everyone will shit on it in the next two weeks but in two years time you'll inexplicably have all these "BvS was so good" threads.
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Dont think it'll take two years. There was a pretty decently sized portion of GAF that enjoyed F4. Every divisive movie has its audience, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are a crapton of threads in the next few months expressing surprise that people hated this so much.
 
Pai Pai Master said:
Dont think it'll take two years. There was a pretty decently sized portion of GAF that enjoyed F4. Every divisive movie has its audience, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are a crapton of threads in the next few months expressing surprise that people hated this so much.
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I want their names.
 
I think he means the old F4, and not the new one. I honestly do not recall anyone having positive things to say about the new one.
 
duckroll said:
I think he means the old F4, and not the new one. I honestly do not recall anyone having positive things to say about the new one.
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The new one is worse than the old ones? I haven't seen them in forever, but I remember the old ones being bad.
 
Not going to go back and research specific names but the RT thread for that one went on for quite a bit because the OT was dead. it wasn't just the dude who was paying people to go see it lol

I distinctly remember people coming back and saying it wasn't bad as the reviews made it out to be, or it was good until Doom, or that they really liked aspects of it like the body horror stuff, which I do think is a legit interesting thing about it .
 
Sojgat said:
What an oppressively joyless and stupid movie. And ponderous as fuck too. Snyder seems satisfied just co-opting iconic imagery from much better stories, rather than coming up with anything original. Action scenes weren't even that good. Ending was a complete mess. DC cinematic universe is still entirely salvageable though.

First 30 minutes are the best part. Wonder Woman was cool.

5/10
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Wat...this is a complete opposite of what I've heard. Everyone who rated it similarly to yours said the first 30 minutes is the slogfest.

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Jessica Alba was pretty spectacular in the previous F4 films. Very talented.
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Liar!! Even her eyes can't act in that movie.
 
I am pretty sure that WB and most of the people involved in this movie did not see this coming. I mean, at the worst, they probably felt the pressure of having to cram so much into one film, but I think they really tried and likely assumed that bringing in a heck of a lot of Oscar winners + Terrio was gonna be a win.

FALSE GOD TERRIO, SRS. Dude's script was kind of a step below Man of Steel's in many ways.
 
Man, the DC Cinematic reddit is the gift that keeps on giving

[If any outlets or YouTube decide to do a small story on this, please credit the Twitter at the bottom. For any questions whatsoever, contact me there] BEFORE you decide to downvote, please hear this post out. I tried to be incredibly fair, for alternate theories, check the bottom. I did a LOT of digging to find this. This was written by a skeptical person who thinks conspiracies are idiotic, but there's proof. If you can think of an explanation other than mine, feel free to comment. I'll reply to it and we can discuss possibilities.Please note, this is also NOT an attempt to dismiss any opinions which are don't favor the DCEU. You can have your opinion, that's totally cool. But on some level, this smear campaign has to exist.

EVIDENCE Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/FlG9B
Check it for yourself: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=batman v superman rain&src=typd

NOTE: There are accounts that DON'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH that are doing this.
Tweet vs Profile: - Tweet: http://imgur.com/OJGJjXP - Profile: http://imgur.com/90xwAUE

Before you read this, just know I'm a skeptical person. I'm not a rabid fanboy or sore loser, nor do I get mad at negative buzz surrounding this movie. I defended even McWeeny. But at this point I'm starting to believe there's an anti-DC smear campaign that's completely controlled and intentional.A lot of people have said before there's a possible smear campaign against the DCEU that's possibly being controlled by someone or some organization. I was one of the people who said that's absolutely bogus. There's no proof and I thought it was just SOME DC fans being a bit too reactionary and sensitive.

However, I think I may have found evidence for it. Test this yourself if you want to on Twitter, search "batman v superman rain" and set the filter to "Live" tweets or "All" Tweets.There's a very specific comment that's clearly being botted (as someone who's pretty well-versed in hacking and a Computer Science major, I can tell you the term is called "botnetting" and judging by the scale of this, it's indeed a pretty large amount of people doing this). across many different accounts. It's meant to be some obnoxious anti-DC joke that says "Batman v Superman will be a two hour tracking shot of every DC character crying in the rain". This is no coincidence and this is DEFINITELY not just a bunch of unoriginal people copying each other's tweets for the sake of being funny. All the accounts don't seem to be linked with each other. Either this is botted, or people are writing it because of some sort of "deal" online (a lot of surveys for fake products online require that users to either post or tweet certain things so they can get their "prize"). The Tweet is TOO specific to purely be a coincidental joke and too manufactured and clustered to be uncontrolled. There might be an intentional smear campaign for DC, folks. It's not to say that every source that reports negatively on BvS is in on it, but it's a domino effect of negativity that's subtly slipping between the cracks and affecting how this movie is reported.

Like I said, I'm a skeptical person. I think of every possible explanation. Which is why I will ALSO say this:I recently spoke to Mark Hughes from Forbes. Great guy, still in discussion about the topic. According to him, these attacks are likely just a result of trolling on a MASSIVE scale. The spam-bots seem relatively low-tech and perhaps smaller in quantity than I realize they are. It's also important not to let the negativity get to everyone. 90% of online attention the film is getting, believe it or not, IS positive. It's just a very vocal minority. This could possibly be the result of "low-rent trolling." However, it's hard to say for certain. This may be a smaller part in a larger behind-the-scenes scheme some company or group of people is orchestrating. Again, we can't really say for sure what's going on here, but this is certainly worthy food for thought. I have also spoken to a couple others I can't name, but there's also a chance that this is an elaborate large-scale troll. Whoever it is, this person has resources.
I originally stated that it may be a Disney shareholder, but I have my doubts about that.
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blummer102 said:
I am pretty sure that WB and most of the people involved in this movie did not see this coming. I mean, at the worst, they probably felt the pressure of having to cram so much into one film, but I think they really tried and likely assumed that bringing in a heck of a lot of Oscar winners + Terrio was gonna be a win.

FALSE GOD TERRIO, SRS. Dude's script was kind of a step below Man of Steel's in many ways.
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honestly who is to say what is terrio and what is goyer

for all we know Terrio just punched up the dialog and the scripts foundation is still nearly all Goyer
 
I am going to go in with an open mind.

If the movie is bad, I hope its so bad its a fucking trainwreck of epic proportions and not a boring slog. I find its worse to be boring and bland than bad.
 
Pai Pai Master said:
Not going to go back and research specific names but the RT thread for that one went on for quite a bit because the OT was dead. it wasn't just the dude who was paying people to go see it lol

I distinctly remember people coming back and saying it wasn't bad as the reviews made it out to be, or it was good until Doom, or that they really liked aspects of it like the body horror stuff, which I do think is a legit interesting thing about it .
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Well, does saying that there could have been a good movie in there somewhere really count? Trank isn't a crappy ass director. He has good ideas, and he was clearly trying to make something unique there. Whatever happened between him and the studio, the end result is a movie no one was happy with. Acknowledging that there are good parts and that there is merit to the concept isn't always an endorsement of the film as it was released!

I think Man of Steel has some great ideas, and solid scenes, and when it works it really works. I also think the movie is a poor assembled piece of shit that emphasizes its weaknesses and neglects its strengths. That's not an endorsement!
 
Warner Bros may have screwed up with Batman V Superman, but at least they gave me amazing shit like Creed and Mad Max.

All is forgiven. I just hope Suicide Squad doesn't have the same fate.
 
Honestly I wonder what WB will be doing with Wonder Woman

The movie is nearly done shooting, yet Patty Jenkins gotta be feeling the heat now, and IIRC Snyder and his wife are overseeing that film as well. That movie HAS to work.

they are literally locked in to the Snyder-verse because of that movie (even Suicide Squad features Batfleck iirc), whether nor not he directs Justice League. They have no choice but to continue on with this universe really.
 
Dead said:
Honestly I wonder what WB will be doing with Wonder Woman

The movie is nearly done shooting, yet Patty Jenkins gotta be feeling the heat now, and IIRC Snyder and his wife are overseeing that film as well.

they are literally locked in to the Snyder-verse because of that movie (even Suicide Squad features Batfleck iirc), whether nor not he directs Justice League. They have no choice but to continue on with this universe really.
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Well if the movie underperforms (which I can see happening if it gets really bad word of mouth) they could can Snyder.
 
kurahador said:
Wat...this is a complete opposite of what I've heard. Everyone who rated it similarly to yours said the first 30 minutes is the slogfest.
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First half hour is the only part of the movie that seems like it's building to something interesting. Problem is, it just keeps building for another hour after that. The big opening sequence was pretty much the highlight for me. I was convinced all the critics were wrong at that point, but it all just slowly goes downhill from there.
 
Dead said:
Honestly I wonder what WB will be doing with Wonder Woman

The movie is nearly done shooting, yet Patty Jenkins gotta be feeling the heat now, and IIRC Snyder and his wife are overseeing that film as well. That movie HAS to work.

they are literally locked in to the Snyder-verse because of that movie (even Suicide Squad features Batfleck iirc), whether nor not he directs Justice League. They have no choice but to continue on with this universe really.
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They'll cut it down to 90 minutes, excise any non essential subplots and remove all the villain's character development.
 
The Kree said:
They'll cut it down to 90 minutes, excise any non essential subplots and remove all the villain's character development.
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At that point they might as well can the movie and not release it, because what you just described is Josh Trank's Fantastic 4
 
Movie certainly feel bloated and messy with most of the scenes. It was good only in the first 10 to 29 minutes or so, and right after batman and superman starts fighting.

The first form of doomsday is one if not the most generic orc creature i have ever seen. Fortunately he looks better later on
 
jack_package_200 said:
Well if the movie underperforms (which I can see happening if it gets really bad word of mouth) they could can Snyder.
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If it were just this one movie it would be an easy solution. The issue for WB is that Snyder is producing to varying degrees all of their DC movies for at least the next three years. So it's not like they're firing one director, they'd be essentially firing the creative head of their next 5 or 6 movies.
 
Blader said:
If it were just this one movie it would be an easy solution. The issue for WB is that Snyder is producing to varying degrees all of their DC movies for at least the next three years. So it's not like they're firing one director, they'd be essentially firing the creative head of their next 5 or 6 movies.
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Frankly I sure as hell wouldn't miss him if replacing him gave us better films.

JDMC13 said:
Something I never thought I'd live to see.
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He is truly the next Sam Worthington
 
Dead said:
At that point they might as well can the movie and not release it, because what you just described is Josh Trank's Fantastic 4
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I described Hollywood. This is what they do. They may very well can it, but I imagine they might still feel good about recouping because audiences and nerd culture in general is a little starved for heroic women taking center stage and we'll take whatever we can get.
 
I'm set to watch it either tomorrow or Friday, depending on the weather.

I've waited too long just to let the reviews sway me now.

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Blader said:
If it were just this one movie it would be an easy solution. The issue for WB is that Snyder is producing to varying degrees all of their DC movies for at least the next three years. So it's not like they're firing one director, they'd be essentially firing the creative head of their next 5 or 6 movies.
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what kind of pitch did this dude have to give WB to get this much power
 
Blader said:
If it were just this one movie it would be an easy solution. The issue for WB is that Snyder is producing to varying degrees all of their DC movies for at least the next three years. So it's not like they're firing one director, they'd be essentially firing the creative head of their next 5 or 6 movies.
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Yep.

Justice League - Script: Done. Pre-Prod: Done, Casting: Mostly Done. Shooting: Literally weeks away. Contracts surely in place as well.

Wonder Woman - Script and Pre-Prod: Done, Shooting: 75% Done.

Aquaman - Well into pre-production, casting etc.

I just don't see how they can sideline Snyder completely when he and his production company pretty much ARE the DCCU without completely destroying all their plans
 
Despite all of my shitposting in the review thread I will be seeing this at some point over the long weekend. I can get a ticket for cheap and that one review invoking Japan and kaiju films made it sound like a beautiful disaster.

At the very least I can say I was there when I watched Snyder destroy two of America's cultural icons.
 
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