I was told that dev kits usually show the id given to the particular kit when they are turned on. Therefore, giving away who is leaking it and breaking some serious NDAs lol. It was good enough for me to drop that argument haha
NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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I was told that dev kits usually show the id given to the particular kit when they are turned on. Therefore, giving away who is leaking it and breaking some serious NDAs lol. It was good enough for me to drop that argument haha
Kiddy Dong
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This is why I was firmly Team Real after the first leak. A legitimate dev controller would have a big ass cord tethering it to the console, exactly as the picture made it out to be.
Gotdatmoney
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I want it to be fake but with Nintendo you just always bank on the worst outcome. Seems too elaborate to be fake.
It just doesn't make sense to me that instead of running the demo at a resolution that matches the display, instead they run it at some other resolution and crop it to the screen? It doesn't make any sense. Why would someone set it up that way?
Then part 2 is that it just so happens that the picture is taken at a time that matches another screenshot of said demo *exactly*? It just seems like too many coincidences to me.
It's easier to believe that a few people got together for the lulz to make a fake than it is to believe that a few developers got together with no coordination to leak and confirm a rumor, putting their jobs at risk... For what end?
Then why did we get an image with it 'on' for the first leak? Couldn't they just play that demo on it and record it?
Looks like he has two available.
This could be pretty cool. I think there WILL BE buttons. What if you can swap the right analog sticks for a button set? What if you can swap the left analog stick for a D-pad?
Also, who said you have to draw in the whole screen? You could draw only a square in the middle, leaving the area next to the sticks black, and the device practically becomes a Vita.
Also, who said you have to draw in the whole screen? You could draw only a square in the middle, leaving the area next to the sticks black, and the device practically becomes a Vita.
SinCityAssassin
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You can easily censor that out.
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Pokemaniac
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This generally seems consistent with the pre-release devkits which have been uncovered before. Obviously doesn't confirm anything, but it brings up a good point.
But the thing is that since this controller isnt hook up to the dev kit he could unplug the kit and turn on the controller.
Damn!
This is an image of 5 years ago, made by a 3D enthousiast using free software, on which he worked for only 2 hours:
http://linolafett.deviantart.com/art/Calculator-274530447
UnemployedVillain
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They say otherwise in the video
cartographer
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For the sake of argument: because the "screen" on the first image caused the most issues on closer inspection. If we're operating under the assumption that it's fake, then the first thing I would do as a follow-up is attempt to eliminate those questions by keeping the screen "off."
Or the dev could turn on the console/controller, then go to a specific spot in a game and then film it. If there is a code on screen then that part could be taped over. I think it could still be done, theoretically.
foxuzamaki
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This is nintendo. and this has been said to be a even tighter NDA than in the past, they dont want nobody knowing nothing they dont want them to until they're ready to reveal it, and it is march, not even summer yet and only 2 days after the start of spring, aint no final retail version is in anyone's hands yet.
DataStream
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He brings up lots of valid points that I can attest to in regards to dealing with prototype hardware that we get from partners for testing. At the same time, if they are going to be using one of these wacky sharp screens that can be any shape and are shooting for what seems to be an increasingly more aggressive timeline things are bound to leak and inherently be more sophisticated in their prototype form.
this is what a wii u cat dev controller looks like
the 3ds looks like this
i haven't seen the kit in a while, but it looks familiar. the way the nx controller is presented in the first leak makes it look like it connects to the unit more like a handheld does.
Probably. I always thought that first pic was fake as hell.
Thing is that first leak had one thing common with dev kits(that I've seen on the internet) and that's the bulky connector. This leak lacks that. The controller is just there. No wires. Nothing.
I don't know. I think both are fake but again I don't know. I'm not gonna pretend to know like so many #teamreal guys do lol.
And so, it begins.
Yep.
And the 1st one theoreticalally wouldnt have been on, but maybe a light bulb inside with the image front the ue4 demo printed with some transparency turned up a bit in photoshop and stuck behind a piece of clear plastic. Explains the hotspot on the screen and the lack of evidence of a flash elsewhere in the pic.
this is what a wii u cat dev controller looks like
the 3ds looks like this
i haven't seen the kit in a while, but it looks familiar. the way the nx controller is presented in the first leak makes it look like it connects to the unit more like a handheld does.
It's green!
People make their own mods all of the time. I'm sure someone just saw the blue prints and made this home made from parts in their dad's R&D lab.
Pristine_Condition
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None of the #teamfake arguments seem to make much sense anymore, IMO.
So you are saying somebody went to all the trouble of 3D printing this thing, smoothing it out, cutting the glass, fitting it, fitting the sticks, making the "fake" sticker, ect...and failed to buy a $3 can of spraypaint to paint it white to make his "fake" look consistent with the previous one?
Really, the level of reaching here is becoming amazing.
foxuzamaki
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People do this shit all the time bruh lol
Pokemaniac
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Seems a bit early for one of those to be out in the wild. It would be a bit careless for Nintendo to let those loose before the official unveiling.
Not reaching if it's a group of coordinated fakers, or the same faker. Why is changing the color so mind blowing that it makes it real? Lol.
For me, having seen the leaks of the last days, I really think that the NX concept is this : https://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1191557
It was staring us in the face all this time.
It finally all comes together.
Ice cold.
SirPenguin
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I'm also a former Nintendo QA tester and this guy is barking up the wrong tree
They tether devices to the desks at NoA testing because the employees are all 20-something contractors who are paid minimum wage. They don't trust them
That's a completely different situation than what we're seeing here, which is either a Nintendo 'partner', a 3rd party, or someone clearly outside of Nintendo
Pokemaniac
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That rumor is super fake.
More likely explanation:
The UE4 demo inconsistencies caused the most problem on the white one, But the "game footage" is needed to complete the illusion, because otherwise it looked fake as hell.
So to complete a replacement fake that looked ok while being "off", they redid it in black
We don't really have much proof other than some pictures of a controller device that looks like a patent Nintendo made. We haven't seen any games actually running on one, other than one blurry ass photo. There are quirks about the details that make it seem very unusual. Also, it was proven that acrylic can look reflective like a screen anyway.
I will eat crow if it's true, although I'll still be laughing because I personally think it's a bad design.
just going with it being real, considering the way it potentially hooks up with the dev unit, it makes me think it's a portable device mainly. but you can buy a home console device with it for the console experience, or get the 'console upgrade' later, separately (but at a higher cost than if you'd just bought the bundle from the start).
i also think the screen will, for the most part, cut at the sides of the device to allow for the buttons to have their own space and not always need to be overlaid on the image. this would create a viewing space for some games. others might be able to use the full screen either as part of the concept, or just as an option. the oval shape also reminds me a little of the wii remote, which was thinner and rectangular, so i wonder if you could turn it so it would 'point' at the tv for some reason.
i also think the screen will, for the most part, cut at the sides of the device to allow for the buttons to have their own space and not always need to be overlaid on the image. this would create a viewing space for some games. others might be able to use the full screen either as part of the concept, or just as an option. the oval shape also reminds me a little of the wii remote, which was thinner and rectangular, so i wonder if you could turn it so it would 'point' at the tv for some reason.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I can confirm I won't confirm or deny anything
Well where does the source claim this pic came from. Cause if it was from a third party, it wouldnt be bolted down to any desk. At the most a cable into the dev unit.
Harker pls :T
Pristine_Condition
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It doesn't. But the explanation of why the colors are different is ludicrous when you put it through the filter of common sense. If someone is going to go through all this trouble to make a fake, thinking they would just run with whatever color their 3D printer is spitting out is silly.
It's almost as silly as #teamfake saying "oh the screen is too reflective" when we know many screens in consumer electronics are highly reflective. Also, given Nintendo's own admitted-to-in-interviews admiration for Apple products, is it really such as given that Nintendo wouldn't use a reflective screen? Most Apple products over the last few years have a highly reflective screen. Only with the new iPad Pro has Apple gotten into reducing reflections.
Basically, all the people on #teamfake seem to be really reaching hard for reasons to say it's fake, and I haven't seen one that is entirely convincing to me.
I'm not on #teamreal either. There isn't enough information either way. It's just amusing to see people bending over backwards to say it's fake. "Oh, it's too much like the patent drawing," turns into "it doesn't have handles, so it's not like the prototype render" or whatever. Which is it? Is it too much like the art, or not enough? And it goes to "the shadows in the photo are wrong" when they weren't. Then it goes to "oh, it's reflective so therefore it must be acrylic and not any of the other clear products that are reflective." And so on and so on.
I feel like the denial to admit it's very likely a fake is coming from a lack of exposure or ignorance of fabrication techniques, maybe both with a dash of blind hope and insanity.
^There ya' go. Took me under an hour, and I could send it to a 3D printer with a few minutes of extra prep. Then it's just a matter of inserting a screen, or photoshopping reflections onto the 3D printed chassis.
But...like I said, that doesn't mean it isn't real. But it's simple enough that it's really, really easy to produce, if someone had enough motivation.
Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
This post needs to be quoted more.
foxuzamaki
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Lol. Confirmation of a possible confirmation.
razoftblend
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Not to disregard your comment, but would a company go through all that trouble and through multiple version to have as devkits? I can understand when the product is finished and closer to launch or even after that, but as of right not, they are still R&Ding this system.
Doing all of that for devkits seems counter-productive specially since Nintendo is notorious for adding shit at the last minute like with the 3D screen on the 3DS.
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