Wait, so you think it's real because it lines up exactly with info from patents that have been available to the public for a good while now?
NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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Wait, so you think it's real because it lines up exactly with info from patents that have been available to the public for a good while now?
At this point, the amount of crow either way will be AMAZING! I'm totally #teamreal because too many different details line up right now. Nintendo is always looking to change the game and this is their way of iterating once again in a 'new' way and cashing in on the mobile craze. They've always maintained that they're not competing with MS/Sony, they're fighting in other spaces, like mobile games.
The Wii U was a step in that direction and this is the total fruition of that endeavor. I expect there to be a lot of disappointed people if they're expecting anything different at this point.
The Wii U was a step in that direction and this is the total fruition of that endeavor. I expect there to be a lot of disappointed people if they're expecting anything different at this point.
AppleSeason
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In days like these is when I wish I could be drunk...
I do in fact.
It doesn't seem too far fetched does it? If it's fake it's fine. Life goes on, gaming goes on, Nintendo is "saved" etc.
Well, that really doesn't have much to do with the input method. The fact that those games are on devices almost everyone will own regardless of whether or not they play video games is the reason they are so widely successful.
DownGrader
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Ninja Scooter
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How many of the people contributing to that market would be willing to buy a dedicated gaming device or pay for gaming applications?
It's tough being the Flash/Superman/Captain America.
So basically you believe a more expensive WiiU would have been successful had it featured a nicer screen. Yeah, I don't agree, lol.
Jim_Cacher
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I am feeling that these "leakers" are trying to push Nintendo to show the real NX. These photos may be fake, and their poor designs are definitely hurting Nintendo.
I mean, it matching up so closely with patents that have been public for a while really does nothing for me. If fake, the process for creating said fake was make easier just by simply following those patents.
Not saying it can't be real, I just wouldn't use "it matches the patents" as my reason. for thinking it's real, especially when it matches the patents so closely.
SmackAttack
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Have you looked through this thread? There's some interesting possibilities that could come with this. Not saying I like it or anything. I have to wait and see the E3 reveal but it is interesting.
Unfortunately I haven't had the time (we are at over 7000 posts already, after all, thread going crazy fast) so my post was really just my initial reaction.
Of course I'll try and keep an open mind, but I personally don't like anything I'm reading about this.
if it's fake, the only thing i think would be fake is the design. the concept is probably buttonless but maybe with haptic feedback. there's a possibility that this is nintendo's basic idea down to the scroll shoulder buttons. so maybe if you're a dev and you did want to leak something, you could just make this thing, claim it's the nx even if it's not really the design. nintendo would probably be pissed that the general idea was put out there before they could control the message, especially if it's not representative of the final product.
if it's real then i think it's the handheld and the console's main controller. to that end, i expect a 'wii u pro controller' style nx controller, as well as some sort of add-on for when the nx handheld needs to be a console-style gamepad. to take that concept further, perhaps this oval thing is a sort of gateway to other peripherals, so that when it slots into them. i'm not sure what would be necessary for more than a couple different form factors though.
if it's real then i think it's the handheld and the console's main controller. to that end, i expect a 'wii u pro controller' style nx controller, as well as some sort of add-on for when the nx handheld needs to be a console-style gamepad. to take that concept further, perhaps this oval thing is a sort of gateway to other peripherals, so that when it slots into them. i'm not sure what would be necessary for more than a couple different form factors though.
Naked Prime
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Here's my thing. Why would NCL go through all the secrecy & NDAs if all the info was published openly almost a year ago in relatively general obtainable patents? Which these leaks appear to derive directly from? And if there are any other hidden features, no leaker can comment on them, but only the ones mentioned in said patents? Where there is smoke there's fire, but I'm not sure we have the right trees burning.
Prevolition
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Just a friendly reminder.
But keep freaking out, everyone. Gotta keep Orville in business.
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But keep freaking out, everyone. Gotta keep Orville in business.
immortal-joe
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If it's real, this would basically slip into other controllers / devices. It's like a key you carry around. That's my theory.
but it's really really not.
Honestly, out of all the issues with these "leaks", the UE4 image overlay on the white controller is still the most damning, and makes this current leak reek of bullshit by mere association. Even with the problems I see with this leak (seriously, you had ample time to take multiple decent shots and couldn't be bothered to take a picture of the scroll wheels and back?), had these pictures come out first or had released prior to the UE4 overlay it would be significantly more believable.
SinCityAssassin
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There's such a thing as something looking too perfect.
SatoAilDarko
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What leads you to be so sure the concept of the NX has to be buttonless not counting these images? Just the patents?
DownGrader
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Not a nicer screen (but that one too), but a nicer tech in general, including more autonomous functionality... so, essentially, if it was a hybrid system.
Alternative route: Nintendo could make Wii U with a tiny info screen (VMU, PS4), no NFC technology, no advanced wireless and its own processing power.
Basically, with Wii U GamePad, Nintendo created an expensive yet unappealing device, so it should have made it either appealing or inexpensive.
My thoughts as well. Thanks for saying it better than my sleep deprived brain can at the moment.
Herb Alpert
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Now they have to talk and show the damn thing. It would be stupid to let people freak out even more.
But we're talking about a company that find that is it is a good idea to remove buttons, so I don't know what to think.
But we're talking about a company that find that is it is a good idea to remove buttons, so I don't know what to think.
Gotta agree with my buddy Chad here. The fact the patents were public would allow fakers to create a mockup more easily.
That being said, I do suspect this is the real deal. Or at least, a prototype of the real deal.
Thing is, if it's real, we still lack a great deal of context, like what other accessories it may have (i.e. a shell with grips), how effective its haptic feedback is, what kind of new gameplay it will enable, etc.
How are they hurting Nintendo? If they're fake, the relief from most people will increase enthusiasm for the actual design. If they're real, then they're real, and people have more time to come to terms with the design for Nintendo goes more in depth
#TeamFake wins. Fatality.
HighResTomato
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E3 is going to be boom or bust for Nintendo this year. Whatever they do, if this is real they need to get their communication right. Keeping quiet on this if it's fake might just create some extra hype for their E3 announcement. If it's real, then I hope it makes sense practically.
It's all part of Nintendo's plan. Ship the NX with a buttonless controller nobody wants but release the handheld console with nice buttons before the NX and make the handheld compatible as a wireless controller. That way everyone bites early and justifies the handheld purchase to reolace the shitty NX controller.
I really don't like the design... It looks really uncomfortable to hold and I want buttons...
That kind of kills it for me. It's a beautiful prototype, fake or not, but it's not how I want to play Nintendo games.
SmackAttack
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Oh, yeah, this thread was way into it when I first got in so I get it. Was just curious if it was a first reaction. I certainly don't blame anyone for not liking it at the moment.
Ninja Scooter
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They wanted to kill the d-pad as far back as the Gamecube, so it wouldn't be that unprecedented.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
How many interesting possibilities could an oval screen offer that a rectangular screen could not?
Herb Alpert
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I mean, how can one play virtual console with that?
OK, Nintendo doesn't care about VC
Panajev2001a
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Hopefully they have special pen support like the iPad Pro or the people who liked resistive touch screen will have the capacitance multitouch revision.
Which makes no sense to me because a DPad is a hell of a lot less confusing than dual analogue for the casuals
perfectchaos007
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For everyone who's on #teamreal and are disgusted at the design, just keep in mind that we are at least 8 months from launch of this thing, and lots of design changes could be made before now and then. Remember this DS prototype developers had to work with? And I believe they showed this device at E3 just 5 months before launch.
It went through quite a few cosmetic changes over the next 5 months between E3 2004 and launch in November 2004, albeit fairly minor. If the leaked image is real, it could be a very early prototype that will go through major changes between now and launch.
It went through quite a few cosmetic changes over the next 5 months between E3 2004 and launch in November 2004, albeit fairly minor. If the leaked image is real, it could be a very early prototype that will go through major changes between now and launch.
BlindJesus
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Couldn't they have buttons on the back? Say two triggers and four individual buttons on the backside...or at least that's what I wish controllers would do.
Jim_Cacher
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It is important to know that people are not only confined to those in GAF. On GAF, people will be relieved if the actual design is different because we actually follow the news. However, if some casual gamers discover these leaks from elsewhere and immediately write it off without any interest to follow the news, this will result in loss sales.
SmackAttack
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I don't know, things like this look ok to me.
Like I said, I don't really like it but I don't dislike it either. I have no idea if it's real but right now this is all we have so why not think about possibilities like this? It's fun to me. A rectangular screen would be interesting as well.I'm guessing more plastic accessories are indeed incoming. ;^)
Did some quick mocks...
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