NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]

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How is it annoying? They're going to reveal it at E3. You're not entitled to information just because you're antsy.

Christ what is it with people lately and demanding they fucking know everything immediately? Then they complain on why things take so long because they knew everything months or years before they should have.

Where did I say I was entitled to information? Stop with the condescending bullshit please.

If the console is launching this fall, I'd simply be interested in knowing more about it sooner than later and these supposed leaks are making the wait more difficult. If that makes me "entitled", so be it.

Then don't. Get another console if you haven't already or better yet, a decent PC build for living room gaming. The latter will even provide the benefit of high res Wii emulator gaming.

There are myriads of games out there worth playing. If you get your "traditional mature (hard) core game"-whatever fix elsewhere, you will start to relax and see that Nintendo doesn't have to be at the forefront of console gaming with the biggest, most bad-ass, ultra traditional hard-core gaming box with all the games out there. That's a concept which has been done to death and will be done to death by competent manufactureres, without Nintendo even participating in the race.

I own and love my PS4, you don't have to worry about me not having stuff to play.

I also think it's funny that being worried about no buttons means I want the NX to be some hardcore M-rated machine. The Wii is one of my favorite consoles of all time.
 
Me too. Even if this thing is fake, I'm going to be pretty frustrated if Nintendo waits another 2+ months to say anything. Being a Nintendo fan has been really annoying lately. I kind of wish I just didn't care.

Frustration yes. But the hype is also there.. In the back of your mind you think of all the great launch titles.
Games that you will try to enjoy but your fingers are just sliding around on a slippery screen and you cannot find the GOD DAMN BUTTONS!
 
Yeah but to be honest only the hardcore Nintendo fans care for these leaks. 99.5% of the gamers don't care for these things and are only raising their head, when the console will be official revealed.

I agree.
But by staying silent, they will alienate a lot of their fans. And these are the only people that bought a WiiU.
 
Where did I say I was entitled to information? Stop with the condescending bullshit please.

If the console is launching this fall, I'd simply be interested in knowing more about it sooner than later and these supposed leaks are making the wait more difficult. If that makes me "entitled", so be it.



I own and love my PS4, you don't have to worry about me not having stuff to play.

Oh I'm sorry it's so "hard" to be a fan because they're not telling you everything when you want to know. You're coming off as whining and it's getting old.
 
Oh I'm sorry it's so "hard" to be a fan because they're not telling you everything when you want to know. You're coming off as whining and it's getting old.

Then use NeoGAF'S ignore function and pretend I don't exist. I'm not going to stop voicing my thoughts and opinions because it annoys you.
 
Now, IF the "no button" thing turns out to be true, I am not sure I want a monster hunter on that . Or a Bayonetta 3. Or a smash. Or a Mario Galaxy...

I have never been so unfaithful about a Nintendo console. I was ready to give Wii a chance, I found WiiU to be a stupid idea but not enough stupid to spoil the fun.

Now this. It alienates them the traditional console gamers (OMG NO BUTTONS!!!) AND I don't see how it would appeal to casual gamers who are already happy with their phone.

There will perhaps be an add-on to that, with buttons on it. Great, more add-ons.

I'm bitter, I want them to communicate, this situation is beyond stupid. The negativity has begun Nintendo. You know, the negativity that made WiiU a failure even before it was released.

the wii u negativity was different. there was a lot of positivity during the pre-reveal, 'project cafe' time, but negativity happened after nintendo had shown the thing. there was confusion in 2011, and then a complete underwhelming re-reveal a year later. there was also a lot of pent-up rage for nintendo having killed video games™ with the wii remote, or at least that's how i translated the whole episode of 'wii u graphics' (actual videos of 360 games) looking worse than 360 graphics.

this is an immediate dislike to something that's different. it's okay, but there's really no context for it yet. there's an expectation, perhaps, that nintendo is chasing a certain audience or 'abandoning' a certain audience (this never happened), but we actually won't know until there is an announcement and an explanation of the hardware and concept. if this thing is actually the centerpiece of the nx, and nintendo comes out and shows off a bunch of cool things with it, then it's possible that the negativity will go away pretty early, which would be more like what happened with the wii remote.

i'm actually intrigued by this, which is more than i can say about the gamepad. that thing always seemed like a clunky fusion of two ideas. this seems more elegant and might have more potential for new ideas.
 
Nintendos going to reveal information whenever they've planned on doing it. Leaks in the past never forced them to say something. If it's E3 then it will always be E3. If anything this just creates more publicity for Nintendo and anticipation for news.
 
Then don't. Get another console if you haven't already or better yet, a decent PC build for living room gaming. The latter will even provide the benefit of high res Wii emulator gaming.

There are myriads of games out there worth playing. If you get your "traditional mature (hard) core game"-whatever fix elsewhere, you will start to relax and see that Nintendo doesn't have to be at the forefront of console gaming with the biggest, most bad-ass, ultra traditional hard-core gaming box with all the games out there. That's a concept which has been done to death and will be done to death by competent manufactureres, without Nintendo even participating in the race.
I dont get.. (leave orbital beard alone too) Some people got plenty consoles plenty games. Hell I was playing DS3 an hour ago.. and guess what? Im back in this thread.

Its not crazy to feel like you should know certain things especially regarding Nintendo. Guess what we know what games coming for the rest of year, accesories coming to ps4, xbox one. For Wii U what? Like 3 more games? There is a sure uncertainty about Nintendo right now and let it be so.. at this moment we want news and they may have a blow out at e3. Who cares. After the Wii U situation and software you guys should not be faulting anyonrle for wanting some news. It may sound entitled but damn
 
I have finally read every single post in this topic. I have no idea why I did this but I did. It took a lot of time too.

Thoughts:
-I'm #TeamUnsure. That's a really copout decision but there's a lot of solid evidence for both sides I feel like. I'm leaning towards #TeamReal, something about this just feels a little too legit to me. It reminds me of the Smash 4 roster leaks, where you can nitpick certain things that feel off or inconsistent compared to what Nintendo's previously done, but there's not a single thing that definitively proves it to be fake. But I really dunno.

-The tree investigation shit was hilarious. It seems most likely Finnish though, and I don't think anyone actually observed any Finnish developer studios.

-In fact this topic in general was hilarious and amazing.

-If there are no buttons, fuck that. I don't mean "fuck that," in a "I'm not buying this," sense, no matter what it's a D1P for me, but more in a "I'm going to be really really skeptical," sense. I like every single controller Nintendo has created. I think the Wii Remote was genius and love the Gamepad. I liked both of these things from their reveal. But I'm not going to blindly defend Nintendo no matter what. Even if this haptic feedback technology works perfectly I'm still super doubtful. I've never experienced anything that recreates the feeling of buttons ever, and I hate hate hate the way phone touch screens feel. Even for super casual games I don't imagine I'd prefer this over real buttons. I think it would be satisfactory for anything that isn't an action game or a fighting game, but there are basically no advantages to it over a traditional controller to me personally that I can think of. I think people outright writing the thing off just because of the design are silly as well, though. We don't know anything about it. .

-I don't like the oval design either, it looks easy to obstruct your own view because of it. That being said, the thing does look sexy af.

-Someone mentioned the clickable stick being used as a primary "button". I hate this idea a lot too, I hate the feeling of "clicking," on your stick on the PlayStation or Xbox controllers as an input. I also wouldn't be happy if a lot of actions are relegated to the scroll wheels for something like Monster Hunter because using shoulder/trigger buttons a lot can give me hand cramps (one of the reasons I don't play shooters much, and I don't like modern racing games much either). That being said, I do love the idea of something like scrollable wheels for triggers.

-And obviously, this is just one piece to the puzzle. I really want Nintendo to reveal this thing soon, real or fake. I've been saying that for a while now but it's especially true now. They NEED to communicate what the NX is to people, and I feel like this might cause some extra confusion. That being said a reveal can't be too far off anyways, and this just makes me super excited for the future. Despite my skepticism the more I think about it the more I think it's cool that we're getting unique tech like this. Even if I end up hating it, it's at least doing something new and unique.
 
the wii u negativity was different. there was a lot of positivity during the pre-reveal, 'project cafe' time, but negativity happened after nintendo had shown the thing. there was confusion in 2011, and then a complete underwhelming re-reveal a year later. there was also a lot of pent-up rage for nintendo having killed video games™ with the wii remote, or at least that's how i translated the whole episode of 'wii u graphics' (actual videos of 360 games) looking worse than 360 graphics.

this is an immediate dislike to something that's different. it's okay, but there's really no context for it yet. there's an expectation, perhaps, that nintendo is chasing a certain audience or 'abandoning' a certain audience (this never happened), but we actually won't know until there is an announcement and an explanation of the hardware and concept. if this thing is actually the centerpiece of the nx, and nintendo comes out and shows off a bunch of cool things with it, then it's possible that the negativity will go away pretty early, which would be more like what happened with the wii remote.

i'm actually intrigued by this, which is more than i can say about the gamepad. that thing always seemed like a clunky fusion of two ideas. this seems more elegant and might have more potential for new ideas.

I can't deny it looks slick and elegant. But the touch inputs will get a loud NO from most of the traditional players. Put Buttons on this and I'm totally in.

And as you say, we should wait for the proper reveal. I just hope they won't let this negativity brew for 2 more months...
 
I dont get.. (leave orbital beard alone too) Some people got plenty consoles plenty games. Hell I was playing DS3 an hour ago.. and guess what? Im back in this thread.

Its not crazy to feel like you should know certain things especially regarding Nintendo. Guess what we know what games coming for the rest of year, accesories coming to ps4, xbox one. For Wii U what? Like 3 more games? There is a sure uncertainty about Nintendo right now and let it be so.. at this moment we want news and they may have a blow out at e3. Who cares. After the Wii U situation and software you guys should not be faulting anyonrle for wanting some news. It may sound entitled but damn

Eeeh Wii U gave us some great games but failed, so we move along to something else. We know what's coming for the rest of the year and that's it. So what? We'll know when we know.

Some of you are taking this way too seriously. It's a console that'll release when it happens. News would be great but it's not like my life's going to end if I don't find out this week.

I can't deny it looks slick and elegant. But the touch inputs will get a loud NO from most of the traditional players. Put Buttons on this and I'm totally in.

And as you say, we should wait for the proper reveal. I just hope they won't let this negativity brew for 2 more months...

Outside of GAF and Reddit, no one cares about the "negativity." Like I said, some are taking this way too seriously.
 
I woke up and see that a lot of posts are still in phase 1, denial. The lengthts that demonstrating this is fake reaches are incredible.

But it's entertaining.

I still like the design, it's sleek. Almost too premium for Nintendo.
 
Eeeh Wii U gave us some great games but failed, so we move along to something else. We know what's coming for the rest of the year and that's it. So what? We'll know when we know.

Some of you are taking this way too seriously. It's a console that'll release when it happens. News would be great but it's not like my life's going to end if I don't find out this week.
Sometimes it gonna be like that. And im gonna be honest here Im more angry about Zelda U than NX. Only reason I get hype for NX is cause I know Zelda U news is coming along with it. The fact that we have seen like -3% of that game is a damn shame. I literally think about that game every day. Oh no news this week? Nope? Oh well..Might as well DEALWITHIT.GIF
 
I can't deny it looks slick and elegant. But the touch inputs will get a loud NO from most of the traditional players. Put Buttons on this and I'm totally in.

And as you say, we should wait for the proper reveal. I just hope they won't let this negativity brew for 2 more months...

this is where i think there will be a buttons option for some people. i think that for console multiplayer there will have to be some sort of 'classic' controller setup. like the wii u, i don't think anyone will care there's an option for them because it's easier to pretend it doesn't exist.
 
To reveal a new product is a highly sensitive moment of said product's launch and critical to its commercial career. There must be a marketing strategy in place, with a precise time to have the material ready to show to the public, precise interval from product reveal to product launch, etc.

You can't fucking rush it and jeopardize the whole marketing operation and product launch just because there was a leak. That would be reckless.

Do you think Apple came forward to talk about the iPhone 4, which was leaked months before the reveal? Of course not, and of course it was a successful product.

You're not entitled to extra information just because some dude spilled the beans on something he was not supposed to. If you're that desperate to be on the inside of it, and can't just chill and live your life, play your games and just wait, then just apply your CV to Nintendo, or to a prominent dev, maybe you'll be on the inside for the next one? :P
 
Sometimes it gonna be like that. And im gonna be honest here Im more angry about Zelda U than NX. Only reason I get hype for NX is cause I know Zelda U news is coming along with it. The fact that we have seen like -3% of that game is a damn shame. I literally think about that game every day. Oh no news this week? Nope? Oh well..Might as well DEALWITHIT.GIF

You're not seeing Zelda U until E3 so you might as well pack it up. If they do any sort of console reveal before E3 it'll be just the console with the games at E3.

leave me alone

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It looks nice but looks awful to hold and no buttons screams "novelty for the sick of it".

I wasn't really interested by NX but this controller clearly won't raise my hype.
 
I love comments like this, nobody knows nothing about how this thing really works. Who is to say there isn't a standard digital button layout that allows it to mimic the inputs available to other consoles? That would require no real work on behalf of the dev to "build a control layout" as this would be literally a standard pad just with digital buttons
With a round screen? I'm a developer and this looks like it would be absolutely horrific to develop for. You'd have to redesign your UI, make sure nothing on the screen would go under the player's hands, culling would get a whole lot more complicated, figure out how to use the shoulder wheels, and a whole lot of standard calculations that rely on a rectangular screen would have to just be thrown away... it's a terrible, terrible idea if they want to get third party support.

Definitely on team Fake, they must know something like this would kill a lot of interest in 'easy ports' from third parties.
 
With a round screen? I'm a developer and this looks like it would be absolutely horrific to develop for. You'd have to redesign your UI, make sure nothing on the screen would go under the player's hands, culling would get a whole lot more complicated, figure out how to use the shoulder wheels, and a whole lot of standard calculations that rely on a rectangular screen would have to just be thrown away... it's a terrible, terrible idea if they want to get third party support.

Definitely on team Fake, they must know something like this would kill a lot of interest in 'easy ports' from third parties.

what if there was a set up provided by nintendo so that the game could be dropped easily into a 'safe place' on the screen while the buttons to the left and right could be customized in space just for buttons?

from a creative standpoint, does it get you thinking about different design possibilities at least?
 
Same. There are already 2 platforms emulating each other. We don't need another one.

Yeah, I want progress and evolution.

Even if it stumbles.

When I thought of the future of videogames, I didn't think of more powerful consoles that play the same as they always have.

I guess we have VR but I thought the future of gaming would have funky ass controllers and fresh inputs.
 
-Someone mentioned the clickable stick being used as a primary "button". I hate this idea a lot too, I hate the feeling of "clicking," on your stick on the PlayStation or Xbox controllers as an input.

Actually, if the sticks don't tilt like the 3DS' circle pads, I can see click-sticks working a lot better than in a traditional analog stick due to being flat. Hell, putting an actual button in the middle of an analog stick might be an interesting idea in its own right, if it can be designed so you can avoid pressing it accidentally.
 
People still think this is fake? Lol, it's absolutely obviously real.

I'm... skeptical. It looks cool aesthetically, but I can't picture it being comfortable and lack of buttons sounds pretty unappealing. That said, can't wait to hold one of these bad boys (or whatever the final form factor is) in my hands and see for myself!
 
what if there was a set up provided by nintendo so that the game could be dropped easily into a 'safe place' on the screen while the buttons to the left and right could be customized in space just for buttons?

from a creative standpoint, does it get you thinking about different design possibilities at least?



The only creative ideas I can see with that thing are things you could've done with a Wii U gamepad.
 
I'm #teamreal and I like the design.

I want Nintendo to try new things. We already have to many similar platforms, I want new experiences.

The thing is, they've been doing 'something different' the last two generations. I'm cool with Nintendo doing something different. Putting another screen in the controller of the next generation isn't really 'doing something different.'

Going buttonless is different, I guess. Innovative? Not really. Unless they really take advantage of interesting button layouts. But even then, we're either pressing buttons or pressing virtual buttons.
 
An interesting thought if this is real: the slim design with low profile analog nubs can point to portability while the narrow, oblong shape with configurable onscreen buttons could also make it a Wii remote replacement.

Think of it, the Wii remote was built so you can hold it lengthwise for motion control games like a wand (this would now have an analog stick and easier to reach buttons, assuming their is also some trigger on the back) while keeping it symmetrical for right hand and left hand play. Then you can turn it sideways, but unlike the Wii remote which only had a few awkwardly placed buttons in either configuration (and mainly a NES configuration when held horizontally), you can have a more diamond layout when holding it that way for more modern games, make it a simple 2 button layout again, or you can make it as custom or as complex as you need it as well.

Want a 6 button Street Fighter arcade stick layout with all the face buttons there? Done. You could even add special move shortcut buttons like in SFIV on the 3DS with animations around all the buttons when you press them if you want.

Turn it to hold it like a golf club and the screen changes to appear like a handle. Hold it like a gun and the screen changes to look like a gun. You could have a mini piano keyboard or a computer keyboard on the controller that turns the whole screen into keys.
 
With a round screen? I'm a developer and this looks like it would be absolutely horrific to develop for. You'd have to redesign your UI, make sure nothing on the screen would go under the player's hands, culling would get a whole lot more complicated, figure out how to use the shoulder wheels, and a whole lot of standard calculations that rely on a rectangular screen would have to just be thrown away... it's a terrible, terrible idea if they want to get third party support.

Definitely on team Fake, they must know something like this would kill a lot of interest in 'easy ports' from third parties.

Easy solution for a quick port: stick a 16:9 area in the middle of the controller, put a fancy border on the rest of the screen area that could also work to put UI and button stuff, and you're golden.

Granted, you'd think putting the traditional 16:9 in the middle of the screen and giving plenty of extra space for the peripheral stuff as a result would be a best practice for this thing anyway.

Same. There are already 2 platforms emulating each other. We don't need another one.

Yeeeeeeeep. I don't want a third mid-range PC masquerading as a console.
 
An interesting thought if this is real: the slim design with low profile analog nubs can point to portability while the narrow, oblong shape with configurable onscreen buttons could also make it a Wii remote replacement.

Think of it, the Wii remote was built so you can hold it lengthwise for motion control games like a wand (this would now have an analog stick and easier to reach buttons, assuming their is also some trigger on the back) while keeping it symmetrical for right hand and left hand play. Then you can turn it sideways, but unlike the Wii remote which only had a few awkwardly placed buttons in either configuration (and mainly a NES configuration when held horizontally), you can have a more diamond layout when holding it that way for more modern games, make it a simple 2 button layout again, or you can make it as custom or as complex as you need it as well.

Want a 6 button Street Fighter arcade stick layout with all the face buttons there? Done. You could even add special move shortcut buttons like in SFIV on the 3DS with animations around all the buttons when you press them if you want.

Turn it to hold it like a golf club and the screen changes to appear like a handle. Hold it like a gun and the screen changes to look like a gun. You could have a mini piano keyboard or a computer keyboard on the controller that turns the whole screen into keys.

But you already lose alot of screen by the freeform design. Add 8 buttons on the screen and you'll have nothing left.

I really don't like this at all. Games will look warped on the freeform screen.
 
Yeah, I want progress and evolution.

Even if it stumbles.

When I thought of the future of videogames, I didn't think of more powerful consoles that play the same as they always have.

I guess we have VR but I thought the future of gaming would have funky ass controllers and fresh inputs.

I don't see how this....thing....is any more innovative than the Wii U gamepad.

I mean, that controller at least had buttons. This looks like a smaller gamepad, except without buttons. I'm sure it has another hook or two (the scroll wheel shoulder buttons could be awesome) but I'm having a hard time comprehending anything that would justify the removal of buttons and a d-pad. Which is why I'd really like to learn about this from Nintendo themselves.

'Cause I'm entitled. lol
 
Interesting!
Crazy mode on: What if it's a flat screen surface underneath and you can move stuff around as you will and maybe add a Dpad and face buttons?
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In that scenario would the shoulder wheels be the camera? Though admittedly I also hope gyro is in this thing or I won't be picking up Splatoon 2.
 
I'm starting to think the nubs are stuck on and are removable . Only the top part moves.

I could see that being the case. although in the images, it looks like the 'glass' is cut around the thumbnipples. But I could see them as removable. They would ideally work by putting a certain kind of pressure on the glass which would be simulating the same analog movement. It could work, I think.
 
I agree.
But by staying silent, they will alienate a lot of their fans. And these are the only people that bought a WiiU.
Not every "Nintendo-fan" is as hysterically close minded as most people here.

Just fucking relax, if Nintendo goes this route, digital buttons will work well (or well enough).

We know literally nothing about the rest, peripherals, if this really is the primary console controller (or optional handheld that doubles as a controller).
 
Interesting!
Crazy mode on: What if it's a flat screen surface underneath and you can move stuff around as you will and maybe add a Dpad and face buttons?
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Watch the full reveal it looks like this. No removeable anything just a controller with screen. Extra controllers 60$ making this effectively a 60$ handheld because its a fuckin hybrid
 
I could see that being the case. although in the images, it looks like the 'glass' is cut around the thumbnipples. But I could see them as removable. They would ideally work by putting a certain kind of pressure on the glass which would be simulating the same analog movement. It could work, I think.

To go back to a previous patent, Nintendo has one for interchangeable buttons. Many immediately thought about the Xbox Elite controller.
 
Not every "Nintendo-fan" is as hysterically close minded as most people here.

Just fucking relax, if Nintendo goes this route, digital buttons will work well (or well enough).

We know literally nothing about the rest, peripherals, if this really is the primary console controller (or optional handheld that doubles as a controller).

"Staying silent will alienate a lot of the fans" sounds to me like "GIVE ME IT I WANT TO SEE IT I CAN'T TAKE WAITING ANYMORE".

I want to see it too but a guise is a guise.
 
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