NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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MatrixMan.EXE
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This is the issue. And if this ends up being real then Nintendo hasn't learned a goddamn thing.
why would two different sourced "fakes" have the exact same dimensions
doubt they're sharing CAD files in some attempt to gain notoriety or attention
i'm leaning on #teamreal
1) The dimensions aren't necessarily exactly the same based off your own rough estimates, slightly different overall widths. And it doesn't look like you tried to figure out height for the second set of photos. If they were actually different measurements people would just say they are different versions of the dev kit.
2) If they are the same, obviously the same person or group of people made both fakes
3) They are possibly real
4) This doesn't prove anything
Well not all of them, personaly I'm still baffled by the idea of no buttons, already expressed my concerns about the cost of the controller alone, and the likeliness of having a cheap hardware.
Just like any other game, it will simply show view that would've otherwise not have been visible.
It's like an FOV slider in an FPS. Or for example seeing more of the level when playing a 4:3 title on a 16:9 screen.
And if a dev cannot handle that due to frustrum culling restraints, then they can just put a black border there or something similar. If it's confusing for players, have the edges and non-essential areas blurry or shaded in a darker tint.
Again, as a developer myself, my workflow would be:
- Check if I can simply extent my camera FOV to show a wider perspective across the entire controller.
- If not feasible or it's too much extra computational strain, then just put some artwork and HUD stuff.
Thanks all! Just wanted to make sure that I don't leave the loop. Gotta make an informed #TeamReal or #TeamFake decision.
Starchasing
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The direction might be a dedicated gaming system designed towards the kind of experiences that phones and iPads provide.
MannyToons
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And that's what upsets me the most.
Plinko
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Statements like this are ridiculous. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others may not feel differently. It's not that hard to understand.
By the way: I'm on record saying I don't think I like this. I want physical buttons, too.
Graphics Horse
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I wouldn't be sure of that. Idk what they're thinking if this is just an expensive controller again.
Well this is the console's controller. But assuming that the handheld isn't far off in terms of layout compared to the console's controller (give or take a few inches), it should be pocketable thanks to the circle pad-esque sticks.
LuigiBlood
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I see NeoGAF saying that Nintendo cannot make anything normal.
Since Nintendo 64, Nintendo hasn't stopped making "normal" consoles. (I'm not talking handhelds.)
Nintendo's always been about gimmicks. But never really failed at it, it always worked. Honestly I used to be scared about the Gamepad's stick placement and the weight of it. It ended up being just fine.
So if Nintendo ever made this thing, remember that Iwata talked about the fact they can't just port games to smartphones, it doesn't work enough for them. If the controller is real, Nintendo must have thought of something, and we all know how Nintendo strives for quality (and cheap). And apparently NeoGAF forgets everything once there's pictures. Plus they already judge pics even though they're not even confirmed.
EDIT: Oh also, what makes people say NX is ACTUALLY an hybrid? That wasn't confirmed.
- sticks that don't look that comfortable to use
- sharp sides that don't look comfortable to hold
- touch buttons so you can't easily blind use them, for a home console where you're supposed to be watching the TV
My guess would at least be that Zelda wouldn't literally run on the controller - that'd be a map or weapon select? Although if they do off-tv play again I suppose they can't put anything practical on the controller.
I don't get it. What's fun about a building that turns into a robot?
- sharp sides that don't look comfortable to hold
- touch buttons so you can't easily blind use them, for a home console where you're supposed to be watching the TV
My guess would at least be that Zelda wouldn't literally run on the controller - that'd be a map or weapon select? Although if they do off-tv play again I suppose they can't put anything practical on the controller.
I don't get it. What's fun about a building that turns into a robot?
Nvm, thought it would be too big but the 3ds XL is almost exactly that size ...
Herb Alpert
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yes, was mentioned before.
Tricky I Shadow
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All you need to do is look at how simple the controller is with it's focus on touch controls to realise Nintendo might go full mobile in the future. Simple as that really.
When you show something as terrible as this I kinda think it is hard to understand how anyone can like it. It's just....so bad in almost every way it possibly could be.
For the world of smartphones and tablets - sure, that makes sense. Even though they aren't ideal because you don't have haptics or any form of raised physical shape, I realise they offer flexibility.
But for those devices you are looking at the phone/tablet. I can't see anyone thinking virtual touch buttons are a good idea for a device designed to be a remote control for a game running on a TV.
Out_Of_Ammo
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Man, putting a screen protector on that thing will be a bitch.
Simbabbad
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What makes you think they're different?
I guess it could be nx handheld still?
There are some nice potential positives: a controller that doubles as a portable, a more approachable controller, & pleasing aesthetics. My SO is going to love this as an Animal Crossing machine, assuming no amiibos. Amiibos could ruin everything, she HATES clutter, esp kitschy plastic tat clutter.
Just three side's before from me, and 100 pages before that from some other one^^
This. I posted a pic days ago how it would be used in a actual NX game and possible VC:
This was my original sketch and I guesstimated the stick position. Looks like they might even be closer to the edge of the screen, so even less obscured screen space.
Not sure if you're deliberately being obtuse. The vehicle is the platform (nx), the destinations are the games/interface changes.
The point is, something you are familiar with, that you require in order to get from point a to point b changes and you need to re-learn the control scheme each time you 'go to a different place' is not a good idea.
McFly
Some of you really need to pay attention to official Nintendo communication. Everything that Nintendo said about NX was about how NX will provide a new way to play games, how NX will be different. Anybody expecting a standard console with a standard controller is not paying attention or is in denial.
Bots are better than you
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Hmm, i could now ask you: "What's wrong with Final Fantasy I to IX, various Dragon Quests, and all those games that are cross-platform on mobile and Vita?"
Why? Because that's a part of the experiences offered on mobile.
And (iirc) Iwata even mentioned that they want to have some of those mobile games and their devs on board for the new system. So, no denying your thought.
But we also have some solid rumors, post from users who appear to have knowledge in some way and even games "semiconfirmed" for the system, namely rumored Smash Bros Port, Zelda U cross-gen, Final Fantasy XV and the "semiconfirmed" Dragon Quest XI.
And again, back to jumping to conclusions. I see pictures of a device, that's simply not powered on. Everything else, be it haptic feedback, tactus-like morphing inputs, changeable input-sets for adjusting to your likes, is just speculation. And from this, you're like "Ok, they go mobile asap." ... from zero to 100%.
Because that's the type of innovation people would actually like Nintendo to go after.
If only other people would realise this.
LuigiBlood
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DrROBschiz
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As long as the platform delivers in other important areas I honestly could care less about what crazy shit they chase
They have been behind the curve in modern conveniences since the Wii and its about time they catch the fuck up
And sometimes we get the Wii and sometimes we get the Wii U.
Starchasing
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Oh i understand and i agree. With Nintendo anything goes.
I think hybrid its a strong word. My suggestion was a basically a handheld and a very underpowered console. When you put them together you get certain benefits The idea was:
1) The home console is severely underpowered, matching the handheld capabilities. It comes with a handheld or similar controller without screen. It can be used as a controller or a handheld. The focus of the home console is social play. Your friends can bring their handhelds to play along, and maybe their phones too.
2) The handheld is just a handheld. You can bring it to your friends house and play games on the TV.
3) They do not want ps4/xbox multiplatform games. They want IOS and android multiplatfrom games, hence no buttons.
4) Its a superior IOS experience since it has 2 analogue sticks.
Can't wait to play clash of clans on my Nintendo console
You maybe do not. But millions of people are playing those kind of games and nintendo sure wants a pie of that.
Cygnus X-1
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Figured this would be a good exercise. Made a quick UI animation concept:
Hear it with sound for that extra OOMPH.
- Contextual actions/buttons
- Click down on left analog stick for weapon wheel
Well, sure this way it looks better. We'll see.
Bjoern the Smexy
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Man, the more I see of this, the more I want it, but in a different form.
This oval form factor looks so hideous and pseudo-novel. If anything it should be rectangular with rounded corners, like any ol' smartphone.
I just don't want something like this in my hands. It looks so... hipster-ish. I don't like hipster-ish.
It also needs Start/Select/Home buttons on that plastic stripe where the apparent camera or screw or whatever is placed.
This oval form factor looks so hideous and pseudo-novel. If anything it should be rectangular with rounded corners, like any ol' smartphone.
I just don't want something like this in my hands. It looks so... hipster-ish. I don't like hipster-ish.
It also needs Start/Select/Home buttons on that plastic stripe where the apparent camera or screw or whatever is placed.
Also Nintendo don't give a fuck about what fans/people want
Fachasaurus
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Holy shit. This has an actual possibility of being real...
Good lord...
Good lord...
Chittagong
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I think it has the potential to do really very well. It looks like an object from the future, it provides very cool gameplay opportunities, and I'm not as convinced that touch buttons can't work. Touch sticks, definitely not. I trust control scheme is one thing where Nintendo doesn't fail.
It could be best of both worlds, touch and console. And if you can use that... thing... to play the same games home and on the go, it could be awesome. The one clear thing is that it's a game machine first and foremost, since joysticks are the only physical controls.
Herb Alpert
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What irks me about these so called leaks is how limited the leakers are with their pictures. They obviously don't give a shit about secrecy or possibly losing their job, so why stop at just one or two vague pictures?
If I had something as huge as that in my possession and I knew I'd be posting pictures onto the net, I'd take loads of pics from all kinds of angles. Why hasn't this person shown us what it looks like from behind? Or what it looks like in his hands? Or why isn't it turned on? Why haven't they revealed more about the specific specs of the console etc
Why so secretive?
It just seems a bit obvious to me somebody with a 3d printer got bored.
If I had something as huge as that in my possession and I knew I'd be posting pictures onto the net, I'd take loads of pics from all kinds of angles. Why hasn't this person shown us what it looks like from behind? Or what it looks like in his hands? Or why isn't it turned on? Why haven't they revealed more about the specific specs of the console etc
Why so secretive?
It just seems a bit obvious to me somebody with a 3d printer got bored.
But the way is sometimes different, sometimes you fly, and sometime you drive on two wheels, that's what i'm saying and for that you need different configuration's.
I'm not saying, this concept is perfect, but your comparison doesn't work, at least not for me, but maybe i'm just too stupid, could be^^
Yes and they should also actually read the patent as it explains the form factor, the sticks placement, that the sticks are the primary a + b buttons, and some of the new game mechanics this would bring to the table.
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