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That Flash bump

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dead souls said:
It's pretty funny that a CBS show needs a crossover with a CW show to boost its ratings.
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Well I'm not 100% sure that's it... I think the big marketing around the show helped people remember it was on

Because number it was pulling before random breaks/DST... we'll have a better idea next week
 
It is not that strong, it did 1.8 in regular weeks. But yeah, marketing helped getting it back to where it should be.
 
Busty said:
Elementary has been renewed. Everything else is irrelevant, including the ratings for Elementary.



I got an episode and a half into Quantico before I had to bail out. I have a feeling that the show's audience are getting a little weary of it's Greys Anatomy meets LOST style nonsense pacing.
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Top 5 best shows on TV
 
Vlodril said:
lucifer is not going to get renewed is it? Should have waited to see it. Welp.
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It is not owned by them, which could work against it, but still likely to come back. It remains one of their highest average demo. Might even be their third highest average demo, behind The Simpsons and Empire. Rosewood and Gotham come close.
 
Shouldnt the deal with Hulu help Lucifer get renewed? Would they waste time getting all the episodes to something that will only be one season?
 
I really hope Lucifer gets renewed, it's one of the shows I really look forward to each week.
 
I hated the Lucifer pilot, but I hear so many good things about it around here. I might binge on it a little on Hulu in the summer. That and Season 3 of Sleepy Hollow.
 
FOX's Tuesday continues to look like a bloodbath

Decent enough bounce back for the Flash, but going on a 3 week break is gonna kill that again.

SHIELD is up.
 
Retool New Girl. Bring back Megan Fox, and the unique opening. You're welcome, Fox. Both of you.
 
berzeli said:
The totally unique and not at all part of an increasingly annoying genre/theme of shallow 80s parody ‘Moonbeam City’ Canceled By Comedy Central After One Season.
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Stumpokapow said:
I was really stunned at how bad it turned out.
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I feel like it did eventually hit something resembling a stride towards the end, but it's not wrong to say that the majority of episodes, especially early ones, get by on style alone.

Still, it had a few good jokes, which is worth something. Just not a Season 2.
 
Cornballer said:
Speaking of Empire, this has been making the rounds today:

- THR: 'Empire' Flops Overseas as Foreign Viewers Resist Hollywood's Diversity Push
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It might not simply be the kind of diversity people are looking for. I mean, I live in Poland. Here there's no way Empire would be anything but a huge flop. But Southern America/Mexican soaps were always hugely popular here.

And now central and eastern europe has been going completely bonkers over turkish' Muhteşem Yüzyıl.

But Empire is about black hiphop producers and gangsters. That's simply not something that will have much appeal worldwide.
 
We exported our racism back in the day, now we're gonna have to export our tolerance

This is America's damn fault, not the rest of the world's
 
Cornballer said:
Speaking of Empire, this has been making the rounds today:

- THR: 'Empire' Flops Overseas as Foreign Viewers Resist Hollywood's Diversity Push
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I think it makes a stronger point in the second part, where it realizes that the diversity isn't the problem. Scandal and How To Get Away With Murder probably kill it everywhere, Jane the Virgin is even airing here. It is just that Empire, Fresh Off The Boat, ... are all distinctly American shows. It is the same with Straight Outta Compton which made a whopping $40 million worldwide but ran wild in the USA. A show like American Crime will have the same problem while a Fresh Prince of Bel Air is something everyone can get, the wild cousin ends up with the stuck-up family and hijinks ensue.

It is just that for executives diversity still means racial challenges of the USA, while the rest of the world wants to see something they can understand. It is a bit like the fact Europe and Asia only watch American superhero flicks. That is not because we don't like deeper social movies, but that we have them here, with our own themes that we can understand better. You can't sell us American Sniper, but you can sells us "European Sniper". We can try to sell you Good Bye, Lenin! but you also don't care because it is an European experience that you can't relate to. Make Black Panther an asskicker and he'll sell, make Black Panther a politically motivated thinkpiece on American society and it will flop outside of the US. That remains the same for TV.
 
Cornballer said:
Speaking of Empire, this has been making the rounds today:

- THR: 'Empire' Flops Overseas as Foreign Viewers Resist Hollywood's Diversity Push
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I think this is an interesting bit at the end of that story:

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A broader issue on the international television market is the difference in viewing habits between U.S. audiences, who have largely embraced complicated story-telling and non-generic drama formats, and international viewers, at least those watching on mainstream channels, who prefer traditional, episodic TV of the NCIS, CSI variety.

"Diversity is an issue with our audience, but it's also the kind of shows coming out of the U.S. now — almost everything is serial, with long multi-episode story arcs, [and] that doesn't work for us," says Philipp Steffens, head of drama at RTL, Germany's leading commercial network. Out of necessity, RTL in 2015 signed a deal with French network TF1 and NBCUniversal International Television Production to directly produce U.S. series themselves with a European audience in mind. The initial plan sees the financing of two development cycles with a target of producing three series over the next two years.

Says Steffens, "We're hoping the deal will mean we'll get the kind of shows we used to from the U.S."
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So we might get more case-of-the-week shows on U.S. TV simply because Germany and France are paying for it to be produced and exported back to them? Crazy.




KonradLaw said:
That's Harry Dresden.

Actually, it would be hilarious if NBC would buy Dresden Files right and shoehorn adaptation into Chicagoverse. It would be like spiritual successor to Season 2 of Baywatch Nights :D
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I know, and I want someone to take a better crack at him than that SciFi show from a decade or so ago.
 
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