You're understanding it wrong.
Every game will run on both SKUs.
Games will look better on the 4K SKU.
PS4K information (~2x GPU power w/ clock+, new CPU, price, tent. Q1 2017)
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You're understanding it wrong.
Every game will run on both SKUs.
Games will look better on the 4K SKU.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
"Options." You see, the people that bought PS4's in the 'launch period' didn't have options because they had no idea Sony would pull some stupid shit like this down the line. The message to them is "Thanks for the meteoric success, but actually go fuck yourself we got 4K TV's to push."
You want PC gaming with upgrades every 2 years to reach the zenith of resolutions that a fraction of the mass market will ever upgrade to? PC Gaming got you covered son. You want a box you buy into and expect to have the same flat experience all the way through 5-8 years? Consoles.
Fuck developers that would even put any pressure on Sony to even create this needless box. Unless you're Naughty Dog and you're all putting out some Uncharted 4 level shit, up your game.
Honestly, the 4K shit doesnt even bother me in the slightest because I aint ever gonna be buying an overkill 4K HDTV. Its the "performance" stuff, and the "some PSVR titles" stuff. Thats when it starts stepping over a very clear line and calling all early PS4 buyers gullible pricks.
Yeah I hate that shit as well and is why I won't ever buy a Nintendo handheld in its first 2 years again after the DSi kicker and so on burned in to each hardware cycle.
Its not even like Sony is being forced into such a road like maybe Nintendo's dwindling fortunes would perhaps lead them down by pumping their ultra faithful. The PS4 just came out of an insane holiday seasons and is building faster and faster and people are already pre-ordering the shit out of PSVR. Time to pump the brakes I guess and really make people doubt your roadmap.
CrazedProfessional
Member
Only Sony could use VR as an excuse to fuck the userbase. Instead of proprietary memory cards for the Vita you have a proprietary PS4 for PSVR lmao.
Isn't this a move that'll potentially stop PS4s momentum? Consumers would get confused that their games don't look like the trailers anymore and there is suddenly a 1k bundle out there. It's like this PS4 was early access lol.
Isn't this a move that'll potentially stop PS4s momentum? Consumers would get confused that their games don't look like the trailers anymore and there is suddenly a 1k bundle out there. It's like this PS4 was early access lol.
See you in 2023.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
PS3 and PS4 had entirely different architecture. PS4 to PS4.5 would share the same architecture, with the latter being more powerful. The game wouldn't need to be rebuilt, rather the existing code would only need to be patched.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Was thinking the same thing.
Chezzymann
Member
Looks like my next gaming device will be a PC. Screw this. If I'm gonna be forced into the never ending upgrade cycle I mise as well go with the best device for that.
Ol No Bones
Banned
With all this talk about how impossible 2 varying SKUs is for devs it makes you wonder how any game was ever developed for PC.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It would have been WORST! Because this isn't a true generation leap. No need to lie about it.
So I wanted to start off by saying, I think Sony has done a pretty great job with the range of games available for PS4. They are diverse, interesting, and compelling. From Bloodborne to The Order: 1886, the first party lineup reflects a large spectrum of genres and player preferences.
With that being said, lets talk about PS4. From a marketing standpoint, it's the star of the show. It's a great console. When we look at the way it's portrayed in promotional media, leaks, and art in advertisements we know a few things about it..
It's Fast.
It's Silly.
It kind of sounds like an airplane sometimes.
It's a good console.
It's body seems to be comprised of about 95% matte finish.
Almost all of it's art reflects this. It's got cool skins:
It's got fun poses:
Its's got amazing intro animations:
All of this reinforces the great character you've built around the PS4.
Then out of seemingly no where we have this iteration:
WHAT? What about this console has anything to do with the brand you're building at Sony? It's not fun, its not silly, it has nothing to do with being a Halo killer. It just reduces PS4 to another bland gaming console.
We aren't looking at a PS Vita here, this isn't a console who is in part defined by proprietary memory cards. This console says to the player base, oh we've got all these cool diverse games, but at any moment we are willing to reduce them to 30 FPS/720p to help boost our investment game.
Getting 4k into an existing console generation isn't a small task, it has to go through an implementer, a team lead, a 4k director, and a creative 4k director. This is a team effort. And I believe the team is responsible for upholding the great example Sony can set to the rest of the industry for creating strong gaming consoles.
I have a young daughter that everyday when I wake up wants to watch the PS4 startup intro again. She knows who Ellie is, and as she grows up, she can grow up alongside these videogames.
What I'm asking is that as you continue to add to the PS4 line up and investment elements, you double down on your commitment to create strong gaming consoles that aren't replaced with improved iterations. You've been doing a good job so far, but shipping with a second console like this undermines so much of the good you've already done.
In all seriousness, this sounds like a great way to avoid super long console generations so I'll be buying one day 1.
Wait a minute... Is this a jab at that thread whining about that one Tracer pose in Overwatch over at battle.net?
Killer Queen
Banned
Which is why I don't understand why people want generations to be shorter.
I'm so conflicted.I just hope developers won't get confused themselves on what to support more. The lingering wrath of old PS4 users should make them consider that abondoning that version is not an option.
Can't wait for every game to be ported to vanilla PS4 like Shadow of Mordor PS360.
https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=935581
You comparison is wrong. Performance difference and HW architectures are much smaller between PS4>PS4K than they were between gen7 and gen8.
Look at PS3/360 cross-gen games. Then look at games on those platforms made before the current generation arrived. If you think nothing changed then I don't know what to tell you.
I'm sure those leaks are controlled to have the correct marketing message ready at E3. Microsoft simply told us about the idea. I think they will announce it just before E3 and focus on the games again at E3
As far as VR launches go - everyone has been reactionary at some point over last few years, including Oculus. But given that the 3 main products have research dating back 5 years+ on each of them - calling the products themselves reactionary is pretty ass-backwards.Nirolak said:
As for console-upgrades, those have a longer history, and it's more a question of someone cracking a business model that works (with no signs of it so far).
Also this supposed leak isn't exactly adding credibility to hw-upgrade happening, but that's another story.
Consoles are never going to be as capable as PCs. Top end graphics cards now use like 2-3 times as much power as they did when the Xbox360 and PS3 launched. The days of consoles launching close to parity with PCs is long gone. The best they can do now is refresh every couple years to minimize the size of the gap that grows every year. And is part of why I think they are making this move.
http://cdn.overclock.net/b/be/be317686_7iid6hd.png
The more steps the consoles have, the closer the console line will stay near the PC line.
"...is that like an add on or something?"
Majukun
Member
the problem of course is about what will be the target for developers,the old ps4 or the new shiny one?
Well, all things considered PS4 and Xbox One games are very much easily scalable PC games so whatever the devs do will likely be built on the current version of the game rather than porting from a different platform, upgrading and changes things which was probably a lot of work for devs. Think of it like PC medium settings to Ultra 'Maybe with a bit more care and attention being a static console platform spec to aim for'. Quantum Break on Xbox One and Quantum Break on PC.
Obliterator
Member
I really don't think mods would encourage the false spread of info on this forum on purpose. If it is some kind of April Fools joke its not coming from them.
joecanada
Member
lol sounds like you just aren't into console gaming anyway. if you care so much about the general direction just go pc.... but don't buy a 399 dollar pc then either.
consoles are generally a good deal. but they are a fixed box you aren't given control.
by the way sony didn't stop supporting 99 dollar ps2 forever, theres zero reason to expect them to stop supporting ps4.
If it will even be called a PS5?
Wowfunhappy
Member
I'm just sitting here wondering what a PS4K could do to OG PS4 prices.
I was planning on riding out this generation with just a PC + NIntendo consoles, but if I could pick up a used PS4 for $150 to play Dreams and Future Tone and The Last Guardian, I'd be totally into that!
I was planning on riding out this generation with just a PC + NIntendo consoles, but if I could pick up a used PS4 for $150 to play Dreams and Future Tone and The Last Guardian, I'd be totally into that!
Nope. Not enough of a jump in terms of computational power.
TeddyShardik
Banned
Fuck this shit. If this is true I'm definitely out.
The only plus consoles still have now is the fixed hardware. And devs still manage to deliver games that perform like crap.
Next the games on ps4 will run like N64 games if you don't want to or can't shell out another 400-500 every two years?
Why would I not put that mobey into a pc now? It would have better hardware and is probably be more future proof as well now!
This is the shittiest idea for home consoles ever. First they try to bleed people dry with their software and now we not only need to buy dlc for a complete game but also a new machine? Again, fuck that and anyone coming up with this shit.
Yes, I just want to vent. This pisses me off so much.
The only plus consoles still have now is the fixed hardware. And devs still manage to deliver games that perform like crap.
Next the games on ps4 will run like N64 games if you don't want to or can't shell out another 400-500 every two years?
Why would I not put that mobey into a pc now? It would have better hardware and is probably be more future proof as well now!
This is the shittiest idea for home consoles ever. First they try to bleed people dry with their software and now we not only need to buy dlc for a complete game but also a new machine? Again, fuck that and anyone coming up with this shit.
Yes, I just want to vent. This pisses me off so much.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Or...
Well, we had several threads with numerous pages about this topic and I don't
know what is worse:
1. the iphone comparissons
2. people telling those who feel bad about this, that this is a knee-jerk reaction, because their old machine will play the same games.
Leave those people alone, it doesn't matter WHY they feel bad. If you're going by simple statistics, they're not in the minority. I would even go this far and say it's at least a 50:50 split. This is a gut reaction and that's totally fine.
There are people out there who have the necessary income to go with this trend but still won't allow themselves to spend so much on gaming stuff. Hell, there a millionaires with 20+ cars, but there are also some millionaires who drive one car.
know what is worse:
1. the iphone comparissons
2. people telling those who feel bad about this, that this is a knee-jerk reaction, because their old machine will play the same games.
Leave those people alone, it doesn't matter WHY they feel bad. If you're going by simple statistics, they're not in the minority. I would even go this far and say it's at least a 50:50 split. This is a gut reaction and that's totally fine.
There are people out there who have the necessary income to go with this trend but still won't allow themselves to spend so much on gaming stuff. Hell, there a millionaires with 20+ cars, but there are also some millionaires who drive one car.
I just totally disagree. Millions of console users are left in the dust every turn of a cycle, this is just that on a smaller scale. Why do you think there are so many people in this thread worried about performance on the OG ps4? There's nothing you can say that would assure me in 2 years the ps4.0 versions of games aren't going to be gimped or compromised significantly.
If they aren't going to push the 4.5 hardware, why even bother with this. You KNOW the next Uncharted or KZ is going to be focused on squeezing the new box so they can have a mindblowing graphics demo/commercial/etc. Otherwise why bother.
When you put it like that.
How dare you post this material from a game on an inferior, inadequate hardware?
lets not forget, a lot of people, and I mean a lot change their phones every two years (hell loads don't even wait that long) and they often cost way more that a PS4
maybe it is time for a attitude shift to accepting that technology can and does move fast, we all accept old gen lasted far too long, I think 3 years is ok
maybe it is time for a attitude shift to accepting that technology can and does move fast, we all accept old gen lasted far too long, I think 3 years is ok
Future PhaZe
Member
time to trade in the ps4 before it drops 100 dollars in value in the space of a week
And again. A sane post. Thank you. This is great news all around.