GPU Market in 2025 Q1

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Basically this is a cliff's notes version of the gpu market in 2025. I am curious what kind of discussion there is about this. Who's to blame (inventory, prices, practices)?
Personally I am just a little disgusted with AMD and their partners.

We can see the writing on the wall and I want to see how everyone else feels about the last 24 hours and the last three months in general. Nvidia, Intel, AMD all fucked up IMHO in various ways
 
Topher said:
Paper launch
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so all 3 have had paper launches (well, AMD had a OK launch if you can go to a Micro Center... rare places)

Season 8 Wtf GIF by The Office

Don't they want to sell GPUs to us?
 
It is as if it is 2020 all over again and these jag-offs are over committing to AI sales contracts and everything consumer level is a paper launch to keep the public's eye on them. Pathetic!
 
64gigabyteram said:
so all 3 have had paper launches (well, AMD had a OK launch if you can go to a Micro Center... rare places)

Season 8 Wtf GIF by The Office

Don't they want to sell GPUs to us?
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AMD is just as bad really. That $599 was available for less than 24 hours and now it is, more than likely, gone for good. Biggest difference is there is less demand for AMD than Nvidia so a little more availability. I'd still call it a paper launch though.

It is just a shitty situation for PC gaming.
 
at this point we're gonna need to get the ryzen division to start working on APUs because this graphics card shit isn't gonna work out.

Back to integrated graphics! Strix Halo for PC when?
 
The real blame lies with TSMC for not being able to keep up with demand and the entire semiconductor industry for granting and greedily funding their monopoly. This wouldn't be happening if there were other fabs and ample production capacity, like back in the late 'aughts when Glofo, Intel, and TSMC could all produce leading nodes. Not just inventory levels either, the MSRPs themselves would also be far lower.
 
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Good tech-tubers are drawing attention to the ridiculous premiums AIB partners are charging.

They can do whatever they want, doesn't change that it's shitty.

Regarding the point about only more expensive stuff coming back in stock, that seems to be true as well. Based off the stock alerts I've seen (have seen barely any $599.99 stuff since yesterday, some $700-$800 stuff, but a whole hell of a lot of $800+ stuff).
 
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What's happening? Well, moore law is dead, that's what's happening

The price is going up every node, this market is over, people need to see this market now the same way they see household appliances market, slow innovations over time but essentially the same
 
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Rotate the foundries for the good of all industries.
1st quarter crank out gaming related stuff.
2nd quarter Apple and Samsung cellphone crap.
3rd quarter Crypto.
4th quarter AI.
 
Landr300 said:
What's happening? Well, moore law is dead, that's what's happening

The price is going up every node, this market is over, people need to see this market now the same way they see household appliances market, slow innovations over time but essentially the same
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It's not that which is causing shortages and price gouging. We had the pandemic, crypto then a small breather and things were maybe getting back to normal and then AI hit.
 
The foundries are strapped and without real competition to TSMC, Moore's Law is dead, GPUs are being snapped up by tech companies racing to invest in AI, and the tariff situation has not helped one bit. It's going to be interesting to hear the conclusion to this. Are AIBs price gouging because they can? What kind of terms did they sign with AMD? Did AMD screw them and manufacturers really can't take a hit?

EVGA saw this shitstorm coming and got out of the business in advance. Not that they could know about all these things, just how difficult it would be to properly serve consumer GPU market.
 
Yeah, partially it's Samsung's and Intel's fault for being incompetent basically. Which resulted in TSMC being the only fav of choice. And here we are. 😡🤬🤡
 
64gigabyteram said:
at this point we're gonna need to get the ryzen division to start working on APUs because this graphics card shit isn't gonna work out.

Back to integrated graphics! Strix Halo for PC when?
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Strix halo is here but it's still too big and expensive to do the thing. Once they can get a chip with a balance for gaming, with more gpu and less cpu, the apu era will arrive.

I'm all for it. I wouldn't mind if my next pc was something integrated. Get the value prop back, small, but give up I've even thought of modifying a laptop and making an enclosure to make a "steamos" (bazzite, holo, nobara) console out of it. I would sink gobs and gobs of time into that though and I would rather avoid that kind of rabbit hole. I have too many hobbies as it is.
 
Crayon said:
Strix halo is here but it's still too big and expensive to do the thing. Once they can get a chip with a balance for gaming, with more gpu and less cpu, the apu era will arrive.

I'm all for it. I wouldn't mind if my next pc was something integrated. Get the value prop back, small, but give up I've even thought of modifying a laptop and making an enclosure to make a "steamos" (bazzite, holo, nobara) console out of it. I would sink gobs and gobs of time into that though and I would rather avoid that kind of rabbit hole. I have too many hobbies as it is.
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I for one would welcome an era of mini PCs

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Guessing NV employees are too busy masturbating when they should be working. That's why everything is so SNAFU. It's not just the gaming products either, Blackwell Server is also a hot pile of mess.

AMD is not going to fill the void like people want them to because they've been burnt before.
 
64gigabyteram said:
at this point we're gonna need to get the ryzen division to start working on APUs because this graphics card shit isn't gonna work out.

Back to integrated graphics! Strix Halo for PC when?
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Checking up, seems a Ryzen 9 6900hx has performance in the same ballpark as a RTX 2050. Pretty good all things considered.
 
The GPU market has been messed up for a hot minute and it's taking a lot of fun out of the hobby.
I wish I had at least kept one of my old videocards as a backup card. I may be on my RTX 3090 until the PS6 era at this rate...
 
Celcius said:
The GPU market has been messed up for a hot minute and it's taking a lot of fun out of the hobby.
I wish I had at least kept one of my old videocards as a backup card. I may be on my RTX 3090 until the PS6 era at this rate...
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Im in the same boat. I have my founders 3090 since launch and was excited to upgrade. I have 2g's in my hand ready to upgrade and now i have to worry about rops, my house going on fire and with all these issues i still cant buy one.
 
Haint said:
The real blame lies with TSMC for not being able to keep up with demand and the entire semiconductor industry for granting and greedily funding their monopoly. This wouldn't be happening if there were other fabs and ample production capacity, like back in the late 'aughts when Glofo, Intel, and TSMC could all produce leading nodes. Not just inventory levels either, the MSRPs themselves would also be far lower.
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More national investment is needed for TSMC to have competition.
 
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