The CGI climax is still some of the best action on film period. While still having emotional stakes between Cap and Bucky/Fury and Alexander Pierce.
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The CGI climax is still some of the best action on film period. While still having emotional stakes between Cap and Bucky/Fury and Alexander Pierce.
Glass Rebel
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Ok, see you after the movie hits.
ArtHands
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True. Its a Captain America movie, not an Avengers movie. But I have a feeling that wont stop a certain group of salty people from complaining the lack of screen time for those side characters, when it is out next month
Okay, I never understand the complaints about 3rd act of Superhero films being well, super-power fest. What do you expect to see? High drama? Superheroes punching each other like some MMA fight on costume?
I say, FUCK NO. I want to see Superheroes showing their powers. I want to see explosion, supernova, power fights. I don't want some fucking beat them up shit ala Nolan's Batman. Fuck realism. I want supernatural, I want super power, laser beam, etc.
If it's not for you then go watch another genre. A drama, a beat them up film, anything else but the complaints about the last act being CG fest annoys the fuck out of me. Because that's what I want. You don't see Superpower realised on films without the help of CGI.
TimFL
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I actually get to see it April 27 too. My local cinema always shows the big blockbusters via a special screening 1 day before release and I already bought tickets ~2 weeks ago.
It's also "men night" where you get a free beer with your ticket and all beer/alcoholic drinks are half off for movie goers with an event ticket.
IndoAssassin
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Amen Brother
Indeed. I never really liked the Nolan Batman films because they were grounded in reality. I don't care, give me what I've grown to love, the sense of scale, the action fantasy that comics give me. Give me faithful comic adaptions.
That's why I'm in love with seeing Frank Miller's Batman in BvS and from here on out for awhile as long as Affleck is playing Bruce/Bat.
Haha, love the enthusiasm. Yeah, I don't see why some don't like TWS's end there. I thought the last bits were fantastic. The BSGesque scene of hellicarriers raining down hell on each other, "hail....hydra", and that beautiful moment between Cap and a still confused Bucky that parallels what happened in the first movie and the entire speech that goes with it ("with you to the end of the line", "you're my friend", etc.). And also, this shot:
Pathos and explosions can mix well together and I think they do in this last bit of the movie. It mixes about as well as any blockbuster popcorn flick at least. Oh yeah, "captain's orders" before the action starts is also one my favorite moments of the entire movie.
Discotheque
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Yeah thats fine and all but none of these big endings were ever nearly as interesting as batman/Gordon/two face imo
And in cap 2's case the action was at its best with the street fight with black widow, bucky and cap
Only in avengers was that big third act fight the highlight of the movie. Normally these films stage much more imaginative action sequences when they have less to worry about. Hell I thought Tony stark with just the iron man hand and boot in IM3 was one of Marvels best action scenes easy.
Different strokes...
Pai Pai Master
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The helicarrier destruction is just a small part of that movie's climax.
Bucky and Cap's fight at the end is like the best part of the movie for me and Fury confronting Pearce was great.
Bucky and Cap's fight at the end is like the best part of the movie for me and Fury confronting Pearce was great.
Exactly, your opinion.
I wasn't actually moved with Batman/Gordon/Two Face finale. I actually thought it was pretentious, especially with the whole "Not the hero we need? But the hero...? " I can't even remember the exact line. I just felt it was pretentious. The two-face ending was fine although his death was much too abrupt for my taste. But I definitely didn't need the preachy word Gordon delivered.
OTOH, I felt for Cap at the end of WS because I can identify the feeling of losing a friend. That feeling of lost and just not giving a fuck anymore as he fell from the sky was a literal translation of what I felt when I lost my friend.
Haha, love the enthusiasm. Yeah, I don't see why some don't like TWS's end there. I thought the last bits were fantastic. The BSGesque scene of hellicarriers raining down hell on each other, "hail....hydra", and that beautiful moment between Cap and a still confused Bucky that parallels what happened in the first movie and the entire speech that goes with it ("with you to the end of the line", "you're my friend", etc.). And also, this shot:
Pathos and explosions can mix well together and I think they do in this last bit of the movie. It mixes about as well as any blockbuster popcorn flick at least. Oh yeah, "captain's orders" before the action starts is also one my favorite moments of the entire movie.
Exactly. I love this shot. I felt Cap's sadness as he plummets down, knowing he just lost his friend again. Also reminded me of Spike Spiegel in "The Ballad of Fallen Angel" in Cowboy Bebop. It was worse for him because it was a friend's betrayal. At least Bucky was brainwashed.
Glass Rebel
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I never liked the ending to TDK (and prefer Begins) because of how rushed Two-Face's arc towards the end felt. Excellent movie otherwise and def in my top 10.
I thought the ending for The Dark Knight was overwrought and corny and I've skipped it every time I've watched the movie outside the theater (the Internet has also run the "not the hero they need" line deep into the ground). I also didn't like the videogame-esque final battle in Winter Soldier. Everything between Steve and Bucky during that sequence was great but I didn't like the "you have to destroy exactly three helicarriers" thing or the cliche countdown clock stopping at the last second.
Aye. Bucky and Cap on the helicarrier was a better and more heart-wrenching climax to me than Bats, Gordon, and Harvey talking nonsense on a roof. Maybe that's because I never did buy Harvey's quick heel turn to where I would just accept that he would kidnap and threaten to murder a child. Not to mention the Cap/Bucky scene has some prior context as it's a bit of a reversal of a similar setup in the first film. In other words, it's like poetry, it rhymes. It also looked visually cooler.
Pai Pai Master
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Like you're literally seeing the characters watching the helicarriers blow each other up in the background during the actual confrontation between Pearce and Fury. Theyre actually focused on for like 10 seconds of explosion porn, aside from when everything is going to shit around Cap and Bucky. When people complain about the movie's ending being a cliche superhero explosion fest they make it sound like it's 10 minutes of nonsense when it's one of the more restrained climaxes in the Marvelverse.
Hell for all its praise Deadpool gets even that movie had to throw in a collapsing helicarrier at the end for whatever reason, but it doesn't take away from the important character moments at the end.
I will be disappointed if Civil War goes for a similar climax, but I don't have a problem with the helicarrier stuff in WS, that was their main goal in the movie anyways to stop the Insight Carriers, and that's exactly what happened.
Hell for all its praise Deadpool gets even that movie had to throw in a collapsing helicarrier at the end for whatever reason, but it doesn't take away from the important character moments at the end.
I will be disappointed if Civil War goes for a similar climax, but I don't have a problem with the helicarrier stuff in WS, that was their main goal in the movie anyways to stop the Insight Carriers, and that's exactly what happened.
Putting aside the fact that I never fully understood the criticism of Zola in Winter Soldier, I have taken to dismissing people when they say something similar to the above. Now, I'm just using Solid's comment as an example, but I've seen this same thing mentioned quite a few times. That is:
"Loved WS, but the last act sucked once Zola showed up!"
The thing is, Zola shows up way before the final act. After Zola, you have the reincorporation of Falcon (and his reveal) you have the highway battle (which is usually praised by the same commenter) and you have the arrival of Maria Hill and the return of Fury.
True words right there.
I loved Nolan's trilogy though.
Glass Rebel
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People forgot that they were watching a superhero movie that is neither ashamed of it's source material nor concerned with making it as grounded as possible.
Discotheque
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forreal. i wish they went the kung fu action movie route and just had him face bucky in some final one on one encounter, no frills. it would be like the fight with GSP but more evenly matched and longer
speaking of GSP they should throw him in the batman solo too and have him job to Bruce lol. make the heroes look strong...
Damn! Sounds like an event for me, right up my alley!
LucidMomentum
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Shit, I'm going to be in Houston for a work trip the day this comes out.
Anyone know of the best theater to go see it?
Already bought my fam IMAX tickets in our town, now I gotta find mine...
Anyone know of the best theater to go see it?
Already bought my fam IMAX tickets in our town, now I gotta find mine...
LucidMomentum
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The bigger problem with Winter Soldier and where I can see the "it goes downhill after Zola shows up" is that the central moral conflict of the movie, which actually has some interesting things to say about surveillance, is simplified into "the bad guys are literal Nazis".
Of course, this has nothing to do with the helicarrier fight, which is awesome, or the movie, which I think is really good.
Of course, this has nothing to do with the helicarrier fight, which is awesome, or the movie, which I think is really good.
It's not supposed to be balanced. Cap, Tony, Bucky (and to a lesser extent) Widow, Falcon, and Panther are the main players here. It's Captain America 3, not Avengers 3, so the movie isn't going to be written to juggle everyone else with equal amounts of screentime.
Affeinvasion
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Where in Houston? It's kind of a big city.
Edit: I really dislike Alamo drafthouse unless I've seen the movie before. I find the waiters duck-running around to be extremely distracting.
I go to an amc theater that only has reserved reclining seats and serves alcohol. No distractions and more comfortable seats than Alamo. Also the closest Alamo is like 40 minutes away.
dat confidence.
I wonder if we'll see an inverse reaction to BvS. Critics, not fans, are screened weeks in advance because they're confident the movie will review well. Critics love it and start spreading good WoM early on. Hype on the internet builds until the movie ends up breaking $200M OW.
That's a freak best case scenario that I could actually see happening. I can already hear the cries of a critic conspiracy.
BronsonLee
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Eh, this is pretty normal timing for Marvel stuff. They showed Winter Soldier like a month out.
It worked for Deadpool. In fact, fans got to see the movie a month beforehand. But indeed, there's bound to be tinfoil hats abound, concocting how this is all a conspiracy.
illmatic22
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It's going to be well received by critics
It's going to be well received by critics
JeTmAn81
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Maybe not!
‘Captain America: Civil War’ Review: A Marvel of a Disappointment
http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/captain-america-civil-war-april-1-review/
All those rumors were true!
Hasn't this always been the case? They've always premiered their movies 2 or more weeks in advance? Why would this case be any different.
Jeff Stephen
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April fools?
DrROBschiz
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Damn man
if not for the april fools tag its a very clever and detailed write up lol
At least until a final paragraph near the end
http://www.etonline.com/news/185735...tionship_captain_america_civil_war_exclusive/
Scarlet Witch and Vision are going to be an item in the film apparently.
Scarlet Witch and Vision are going to be an item in the film apparently.
Reverend Funk
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this might have been answered already but what the heck does captain america say to spiderman
? Nothing. You mean Iron man? "Underoos".
TheSecondSpitter
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He had me until "embargo be damned".
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