Quantum Break PC has no "Quit" option on Menu. Gotta Alt-F4.

My expectations are for the PC platform to at least stay as it is, if not improve. Nothing that the UWP is doing applies to both points. Therefore they´re fucking with the PC platform. I don´t even care about their games, what i care about is the possible (shitty) future of the platform, thanks to MS.

If it means not getting those games at all, or getting them in the form that we´re getting them now, i´d rather not have them.


Not really a gamer are you ?
 
Another game claimed by Games for Windows Live Redux?

The alt-f4 thing isn't the real story here though. That's how I prefer to exit games anyway.
 
It's more along the lines of saying we shouldn't expect any better out of MS. KI was a nice surprise though.

Well, at least we know that they're capable of doing something like that.
Now the question is, will they bother to do similar thing to their upcoming PC games in the future?
 
LOL. Entitlement much?

Don't fucking buy it. Plain and simple. Talk with your wallet.


It's a good thing the game is available for people that own a PC that don't give a shite about UWA pros or cons as long as the game runs well on their hardware.

This I completely agree . Just don't buy it but hey I forget people got to complain with out that nothing will change
 
Not really a gamer are you ?

How do you come to that conclusion? Because i don´t NEED to play literally everything? There are more than enough games. Because i´m not so shortsighted to get all giddy at the opportunity to play APPS on my Desktop PC and not see a potential bad future for the platform i game on?

What is it, that gives you that impression?

This I completely agree . Just don't buy it but hey I forget people got to complain with out that nothing will change

So you´re complaining about people complaining. What is it you´re accomplishing, tell me from up that horse you´re sitting on.
 
I feel like your argument is that we should be kissing Microsoft's feet for allowing us to get a port that we wouldn't have had otherwise, regardless of whether it's even playable. Maybe I'm old school, but I would prefer to not get a port than to waste my money on ports like Arkham Knight, Rise of the Tomb Raider, etc.


I buy based on my own personal expectations being met or not. Period.

Does the game run at a consistent fps at 1080p on my hardware? (GTX 970)
Does it work with a controller.
Is the game stable.

If it doesn't meet those criteria I don't buy it on PC. period.

I have a problem with buggy ports. Not ports that run and look better than they do on consoles.
 
Not really a gamer are you ?

Oh we've reached this point in the thread have we?

The irony is that anyone who is really a gamer and not just a corporate cheerleader would not be supporting anything related to UWA at the moment.
 
LOL. Entitlement much?

Don't fucking buy it. Plain and simple. Talk with your wallet.


It's a good thing the game is available for people that own a PC that don't give a shite about UWA pros or cons as long as the game runs well on their hardware.

But this isn't just a Microsoft issue... There's plenty of new steam games where you click launch from big picture and then a pop up box where you need to use a mouse for radial buttons appears. Street Fighter 5 being the most recent and stupid one of the bunch,

People are complaining that UWP removes the ability for .dll injection etc but then lament it for having to move a mouse to the upper corner.

Just always needing something to complain about

Not really a gamer are you ?

Just when I thought the UWP defense force couldnt get any more ridiculous we have a new greatest hits in the making

- "entitled"

- "Steam too!"

- "#notrealgamerz"

Y'all are funny.
 
Oh we've reached this point in the thread have we?

The irony is that anyone who is really a gamer and not just a corporate cheerleader would not be supporting anything related to UWA at the moment.

Exactly this.
 
But this isn't just a Microsoft issue... There's plenty of new steam games where you click launch from big picture and then a pop up box where you need to use a mouse for radial buttons appears. Street Fighter 5 being the most recent and stupid one of the bunch,

People are complaining that UWP removes the ability for .dll injection etc but then lament it for having to move a mouse to the upper corner.

Just always needing something to complain about
I am not saying its UWP issue in this case. This platform is clearly not the reason for a missing quit button lol. This is a game developer oversight.
People always start UWP bashing in Microsoft realted threads and rightfully so. It's absolute trash atm but i personally hope that they will improve it and not run away with games as usual. Because......well, i care about games they are trying to offer. The more negative feedback they get about UWP the better.
 
who gives a shit

I play PC games like this on my couch with a controller on my TV

why would you not include a reachable quit option

it's a game
I mean
When an hd rerelease of a mid 2000s ps2 era kiddie adventure/platformer game has an exit game option, but ancurrent gen pc release doesnt it does raise eyebrows
 
So you´re complaining about people complaining. What is it you´re accomplishing, tell me from up that horse you´re sitting on.

I know it sounds like sarcasm but I'm honestly saying if people don't complain nothing will change . no high horse just fact is at least to me on one side no you don't have to buy it so why worry but on the other maybe just not buying is enough you also have to complain as well.
 
The game is not live on PC yet.

There was a stream linked earlier in the thread where it ran much better, that's all we got.
Ahhh thought it went live when it did on Xbox, I hope for all the PC guys it runs well, as a console gamer I'd guess it's fucking infuriating when well speced PCs struggle to run console ports.
 
I know it sounds like sarcasm but I'm honestly saying if people don't complain nothing will change . no high horse just fact is at least to me on one side no you don't have to buy it so why worry but on the other maybe just not buying is enough you also have to complain as well.

Oh ok, read your post wrong then. Sorry.

Yeah, i´m not buying AND i´ll complain about it as much as is needed. Just like with the original Xbone plans.
 
In response to the apologetic trifecta of entitled, Steam too and not real gamerz.:

Its not entitlement to a) want a working product in exchange for your money b) object to the introduction of platform that arbitrarily limits the control you have over said product because the company wants their own closed app store.

Shitty ports are a thing on PC but thanks to PC (and consequently Steam) being an open platform they can be (and often are) fixed by the community. Except now we have UWP which not only repeatedly releases games with laughably bad issues but by design prevents such community created fixes.

Im not even going to flatter the last one with a comment.
 
How do you come to that conclusion? Because i don´t NEED to play literally everything? There are more than enough games. Because i´m not so shortsighted to get all giddy at the opportunity to play APPS on my Desktop PC and not see a potential bad future for the platform i game on?

What is it, that gives you that impression?

So you´re complaining about people complaining. What is it you´re accomplishing, tell me from up that horse you´re sitting on.

If you don't like the look of the game and don't want it then i completely understand but to not play a game you might have loved solely because you don't like the way it's being delivered is just missing something which could be special.

The comment had nothing to do with MS defense force or PC gamer mentality but gaming in general. We are always jumping through various hoops to play games we think might be interesting or enjoy. Be it saving money for ages, buying a console for just one game, going through various import cartridges to find one that worked on Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the snes.. Playing those games was far more important than how it was delivered and you did what ever it took to play it.

We are now in a time when games are immediately available and we can be picky because there is so much choice but to rule out games solely because you don't want a company to succeed in something is far worse for gaming longevity then anything MS can do.

What if Remedy go bust because not enough people played the PC game due to this ? A company which has solidly put out games for years and still has many great stories to tell in the future. We would lose that because people didn't like a digital game delivery method.

I don't mean to rant and it's certainly not to defend MS but more that I find it sad that people are willing to be so stubborn to play something which could turn into their favorite game ever. You never know

It's sad now to see thast people are fans of corporations rather then the gaming content.
 
LOL. Entitlement much?

Don't fucking buy it. Plain and simple. Talk with your wallet.


It's a good thing the game is available for people that own a PC that don't give a shite about UWA pros or cons as long as the game runs well on their hardware.

Thats not how PC gaming works. Especially not today where it offers endless possibilities.
Even PC newcomers will slowly realize it.
 
If you don't like the look of the game and don't want it then i completely understand but to not play a game you might have loved solely because you don't like the way it's being delivered is just missing something which could be special.

The comment had nothing to do with MS defense force or PC gamer mentality but gaming in general. We are always jumping through various hoops to play games we think might be interesting or enjoy. Be it saving money for ages, buying a console for just one game, going through various import cartridges to find one that worked on Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the snes.. Playing those games was far more important than how it was delivered and you did what ever it took to play it.

We are now in a time when games are immediately available and we can be picky because there is so much choice but to rule out games solely because you don't want a company to succeed in something is far worse for gaming longevity then anything MS can do.

What if Remedy go bust because not enough people played the PC game due to this ? A company which has solidly put out games for years and still has many great stories to tell in the future. We would lose that because people didn't like a digital game delivery method.

I don't mean to rant and it's certainly not to defend MS but more that I find it sad that people are willing to be so stubborn to play something which could turn into their favorite game ever. You never know

It's sad now to see thast people are fans of corporations rather then the gaming content.

I think you are missing the reasoning behind the dislike of UWP. Yes, many of us (me included) are hesitant right out of the gate on the Windows Store being a repeat of Games for Windows Live. This isn't the real issue. If UWP games were flawless ports that had great performance, a lot of people would be willing to at least give it a chance. So far Killer Instinct is the only UWP AAA game that is even playable. People are mad because the limitations of UWP are going to hold these games back.
 
We would lose that because people didn't like a digital game delivery method.

I don't mean to rant and it's certainly not to defend MS but more that I find it sad that people are willing to be so stubborn to play something which could turn into their favorite game ever. You never know

It's sad now to see thast people are fans of corporations rather then the gaming content.
You mean they put out an inferior product on an inferior platform that people don't like to use?

Yeah it is sad. Those are the breaks, it isn't like the potential customer base isn't communicating their desires...
 
If you don't like the look of the game and don't want it then i completely understand but to not play a game you might have loved solely because you don't like the way it's being delivered is just missing something which could be special.

The comment had nothing to do with MS defense force or PC gamer mentality but gaming in general. We are always jumping through various hoops to play games we think might be interesting or enjoy. Be it saving money for ages, buying a console for just one game, going through various import cartridges to find one that worked on Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the snes.. Playing those games was far more important than how it was delivered and you did what ever it took to play it.

We are now in a time when games are immediately available and we can be picky because there is so much choice but to rule out games solely because you don't want a company to succeed in something is far worse for gaming longevity then anything MS can do.

What if Remedy go bust because not enough people played the PC game due to this ? A company which has solidly put out games for years and still has many great stories to tell in the future. We would lose that because people didn't like a digital game delivery method.

I don't mean to rant and it's certainly not to defend MS but more that I find it sad that people are willing to be so stubborn to play something which could turn into their favorite game ever. You never know

It's sad now to see thast people are fans of corporations rather then the gaming content.

You release a shit product via a shit platform and you get shitty sales. The fact that people dont want to use a closed platform with proven drawbacks, technical concerns and known issues does not make them any less of a "real gamer" Its not the gamers fault that Remedy released their game as UWP on the WIndows 10 store. Gamers have no obligation to support a game simply because its a game and not doing so does not make them fake. Frankly saying otherwise is as insulting as it is absurd.
 
I might be alone on this, but no option to pre-load, coupled with the game launching mid-day, meaning people with average internet connections, won't be able to play the damn thing, until the day after release, in a lot of cases, are far bigger issues than having to click an 'X' to quit the game.
 
If you don't like the look of the game and don't want it then i completely understand but to not play a game you might have loved solely because you don't like the way it's being delivered is just missing something which could be special.

I´m beyond hyped for Scalebound, but i wont play it as long as it´s an app. It could be literally any game and i won´t support any UWA, because i believe the potential outcome is worse than missing a couple of games.

We are now in a time when games are immediately available and we can be picky because there is so much choice but to rule out games solely because you don't want a company to succeed in something is far worse for gaming longevity then anything MS can do.

Well, i disagree with that, since i believe anything MS can do with the UWP is worse than missing a few games.

What if Remedy go bust because not enough people played the PC game due to this ? A company which has solidly put out games for years and still has many great stories to tell in the future. We would lose that because people didn't like a digital game delivery method.

Well, goodbye? Remedy/MS made the wrong decision and customers responded accordingly. Business.

It's sad now to see thast people are fans of corporations rather then the gaming content.

A fan of a corporation i am not. Like, i´m as far from that as possible.
 
I am curious how the supposed streaming in 4K (no option to download) of the TV series will work when multiple people start doing it on release.
 
If you don't like the look of the game and don't want it then i completely understand but to not play a game you might have loved solely because you don't like the way it's being delivered is just missing something which could be special.

The comment had nothing to do with MS defense force or PC gamer mentality but gaming in general. We are always jumping through various hoops to play games we think might be interesting or enjoy. Be it saving money for ages, buying a console for just one game, going through various import cartridges to find one that worked on Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the snes.. Playing those games was far more important than how it was delivered and you did what ever it took to play it.

We are now in a time when games are immediately available and we can be picky because there is so much choice but to rule out games solely because you don't want a company to succeed in something is far worse for gaming longevity then anything MS can do.

What if Remedy go bust because not enough people played the PC game due to this ? A company which has solidly put out games for years and still has many great stories to tell in the future. We would lose that because people didn't like a digital game delivery method.

I don't mean to rant and it's certainly not to defend MS but more that I find it sad that people are willing to be so stubborn to play something which could turn into their favorite game ever. You never know

It's sad now to see thast people are fans of corporations rather then the gaming content.

1. Times have changed. There are no reasons to be forced to jump through hoops to play games anymore. If a game or a gaming platform comes out today where it is difficult of the end user to get access to the content they have bought then it will fail.

2. No it's not. For you to say that you clearly aren't familiar with Microsofts history in PC gaming. Please have a look at what has become of Microsoft's previous ventures into PC gaming.

3. If Remedy go bust because of this game underperforming on the PC then that is on Microsoft for deciding to use their game as a sacrificial lamb in a vain attempt to promote UWA and the Windows Store. If you put a product out and it fails to be successful you can't then blame your potential customer base. The product failed because you didn't execute it correctly in some way shape or form.

What you will likely find is that people who are opposed to the notion of UWA for gaming are likely people who are supporters of the open nature of the PC platform rather than being "fans of corporations".
 
Really doing everything to maximise negative perception with this one. I'll wait for concrete examples but if performance isn't great then sadly I'll have to come to conclusion this was a pretty poor first showing for a big UWP title on PC.
 
I might be alone on this, but no option to pre-load, coupled with the game launching mid-day, meaning people with average internet connections, won't be able to play the damn thing, until the day after release, in a lot of cases, are far bigger issues than having to click an 'X' to quit the game.

Not even an option to purchase the game yet, let alone pre-load.
 
Not a good look for these UWP Windows 10 exclusives. Didn't Gears Ultimate and KI also have a number of issues?
 
GoW and KI are also awful ports by all accounts. That's 3 out of 3 unless I'm missing something?

KI is not awful. KI is pretty good, actually. Have you tried it or are just talking about something you don't know?

The only problem is the refresh rate which will be fixed, as already said by the devs.
 
So has anyone disproved the op, surely surely it doesn't run that badly on the specs stated it just can't.

I'd like to see some more on this topic actually... the guy has a CPU that is about minimum spec and a GPU that should be great for Ultra settings.

Isn't it expected performance to be dragged down by your bottleneck?
 
GoW and KI are also awful ports by all accounts. That's 3 out of 3 unless I'm missing something?

KI is not awful.

They do have some common moronic "how could nobody have seen this would be an issue" things but they aren't like WB and their outsourced ports tier.
 
1. Times have changed. There are no reasons to be forced to jump through hoops to play games anymore. If a game or a gaming platform comes out today where it is difficult of the end user to get access to the content they have bought then it will fail.

2. No it's not. For you to say that you clearly aren't familiar with Microsofts history in PC gaming. Please have a look at what has become of Microsoft's previous ventures into PC gaming.

3. If Remedy go bust because of this game underperforming on the PC then that is on Microsoft for deciding to use their game as a sacrificial lamb in a vain attempt to promote UWA and the Windows Store. If you put a product out and it fails to be successful you can't then blame your potential customer base. The product failed because you didn't execute it correctly in some way shape or form.

What you will likely find is that people who are opposed to the notion of UWA for gaming are likely people who are supporters of the open nature of the PC platform rather than being "fans of corporations".


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If you don't like the look of the game and don't want it then i completely understand but to not play a game you might have loved solely because you don't like the way it's being delivered is just missing something which could be special.

The comment had nothing to do with MS defense force or PC gamer mentality but gaming in general. We are always jumping through various hoops to play games we think might be interesting or enjoy. Be it saving money for ages, buying a console for just one game, going through various import cartridges to find one that worked on Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the snes.. Playing those games was far more important than how it was delivered and you did what ever it took to play it.

We are now in a time when games are immediately available and we can be picky because there is so much choice but to rule out games solely because you don't want a company to succeed in something is far worse for gaming longevity then anything MS can do.

What if Remedy go bust because not enough people played the PC game due to this ? A company which has solidly put out games for years and still has many great stories to tell in the future. We would lose that because people didn't like a digital game delivery method.

I don't mean to rant and it's certainly not to defend MS but more that I find it sad that people are willing to be so stubborn to play something which could turn into their favorite game ever. You never know

It's sad now to see thast people are fans of corporations rather then the gaming content.

Sometimes you gotta make a decision for the whole of a community not just yourself. UWA could very well change how pc games work entirely and in ways that doesn't look good. So supporting UWA could mean the loss of features pc gamers have come to enjoy. That isn't something I'm willing to do even if the game is amazing it is just a game and making sure future games don't follow a path i don't like is far more important than a few moments of enjoyment in my life. Enjoyment I could find in many many other places.
 
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