April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader

Status
Not open for further replies.
Bleh. Trump needs to do something ridiculous and extreme to take out Cruz. It's unfortunate the scandal didn't stick. :(
 
Spread on cnn.com for Wisconsin has widened by about 2% since I last looked, 55.4 to 44.3. Fifty Seven percent of the vote in.
 
Cipherr said:
Man according to you all, you have never seen any of the above, yet she is still way ahead in delegates and total votes.
Click to expand...

I have straight up never seen any of those. I've seen people doing all of those for Bernie, but never Hillary. I'm not saying they don't exist, but I'm saying I've never seen them here in my new york city county.

Clinton has huge name recognition here and it is her adopted home state. She has that advantage. But I have never seen such enthusiasm among the young people here. I really do think they'll come out and vote come primary day. She had much larger leads over Bernie in months prior. I think Bernie can get closer in the next two weeks.
 
Crayons said:
I have straight up never seen any of those. I've seen people doing all of those for Bernie, but never Hillary. I'm not saying they don't exist, but I'm saying I've never seen them here in my new york city county.

Clinton has huge name recognition here and it is her adopted home state. She had that advantage. But I have never seen such enthusiasm among the young people here. I really do think they'll come out and vote come primary day
Click to expand...

Of course they will, it just won't be enough. Like ever other state she has won in.

Nobody cares about your anecdotal evidence, the results are what will matter.
 
All the focus on CA and NY betrays how dire Bernie's situation really is.

He could win both of them by 15 points and it still means nothing if he loses PA or Maryland. He's backed into a corner now with no losses left to take.
 
Crayons said:
I'm only speaking from what I have seen here. And what I've seen here makes me believe that the race in New York will not be the blowout you believe. Even if Bernie loses, a close race would be huge in the news
Click to expand...

Big in the news and useless in he election process. He must win every state in a huge way to have a chance. A close loss in NY means exactly nothing.
 
Brinbe said:
On the real, fuck Bernie right now. Can't listen to this garbage any longer. Peddling false hope and taking money from people that probably need it.
Click to expand...
Because there's no worse way that poor people could spend $27 than supporting a politician who has spent every moment of his career advocating for poor people...
 
DR2K said:
Will Bernie use all the extra money he raised to help Democrats in the house and senate once this race is over or nah?
Click to expand...

I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to create some kind of down-ticket effect for a small number of insurgent lefties.

Getting non-moderate Democrats into Republican districts will be almost impossible, though.
 
Erevador said:
Because there's no worse way that poor people could spend $27 than supporting a politician who has spent every moment of his career advocating for poor people...
Click to expand...

They can spend that money however they want, but at this point it's pretty much dollars that should've gone to down ticket democrats who are looking to overtake the house, state and local legislatures going to a campaign without much hope.
 
Valhelm said:
I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to create some kind of down-ticket effect for a small number of insurgent lefties.

Getting non-moderate Democrats into Republican districts will be almost impossible, though.
Click to expand...

Problem is he is failing where needed most:

Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 2m2 minutes ago
Interesting data from the exit polls: Several Sanders voters did not know who they voted for in the supreme court or did not vote for Klop.
Click to expand...
 
Crayons said:
Hillary has a ten point win in New York but we still have two weeks and I'm gonna go out there and put up fliers for Bernie til I pass out

I know that the people I know are not representative of the entire city (young), but I don't know a single person who is supporting Hillary here. Amongst every single person I have asked, it's been Bernie Sanders.

Y'all Hillary people don't seem to have the same enthusiasm as Bernie Sanders supporters, either.
Click to expand...

We can be enthusiastic without having to shout it to the rafters. Tweets and Facebook likes don't vote, voters do - and voters are preferring Hillary overall.
 
Erevador said:
Because there's no worse way that poor people could spend $27 than supporting a politician who has spent every moment of his career advocating for poor people...
Click to expand...

While happily taking their money when he has no real chance of becoming the Democratic nominee.
 
Damaniel said:
We can be enthusiastic without having to shout it to the rafters. Tweets and Facebook likes don't vote, voters do - and voters are preferring Hillary overall.
Click to expand...

Hillary's enthusiasm gap is an enormous problem. She'll be able to overcome it in the primary, but if she doesn't begin appealing to unlikely Clinton voters, she could be in for a surprisingly tough general election.
 
Take it from somebody in Oregon, this is seriously Bernie country. No way he loses here. There is a straight up fever here all up and down the west side of the state.
 
Ambient80 said:
Big in the news and useless in he election process. He must win every state in a huge way to have a chance. A close loss in NY means exactly nothing.
Click to expand...
He doesn't need to win New York by huge margins. Hell, even the narrowest win would be a huge surprise and could build up momentum in California.

Miles X said:
Of course they will, it just won't be enough. Like ever other state she has won in.

Nobody cares about your anecdotal evidence, the results are what will matter.
Click to expand...
okay ill keep that in mind come primary day
 
Erevador said:
Because there's no worse way that poor people could spend $27 than supporting a politician who has spent every moment of his career advocating for poor people...
Click to expand...
Cmon! Everyone knows you don't collect money from the people! You collect from corporations and the extremely wealthy! That way, you're beholden to fewer owners! DUH!
 
Crayons said:
He doesn't need to win New York by huge margins. Hell, even the narrowest win would be a huge surprise and could build up momentum in California.
Click to expand...

Yes he does. Winning NY and CA by 5-10% does absolutely nothing to help him catch Hillary, especially in the incredibly likely scenario he loses PA and Maryland.
 
Brinbe said:
On the real, fuck Bernie right now. Can't listen to this garbage any longer. Peddling false hope and taking money from people that probably need it.
Click to expand...

People are willingly donating for him... and can't you say that for any candidate, really? And how could you even say that considering Bernie is the only one fighting FOR poor people and against the oligarchies in this entire race?
 
Crayons said:
He doesn't need to win New York by huge margins. Hell, even the narrowest win would be a huge surprise and could build up momentum in California.


okay ill keep that in mind come primary day
Click to expand...

No, he really does. He absolutely must, actually, and that's an objective fact. Unless you expect a three point win in NY to translate to a 60 point win in Cali?
 
Crayons said:
He doesn't need to win New York by huge margins. Hell, even the narrowest win would be a huge surprise and could build up momentum in California.
Click to expand...
Momentum hasn't meant anything for Bernie the entire election, why would it matter now?

Also mathematically, he actually does need to win NY by huge margins, unless he plans on winning 85% of California or something.
 
Crayons said:
He doesn't need to win New York by huge margins. Hell, even the narrowest win would be a huge surprise and could build up momentum in California.


okay ill keep that in mind come primary day
Click to expand...

The most he's EVER won a primary by (open or not) that isn't Vermont/New Hampshire (home advantage) is around 10%.

If he wins Cali by 10% that gives him about 50 delegates over Hillary. 261 vs 214
 
maabus1999 said:
Way, way way beyond "Clinton supporters didn't show up" and you know it...
Click to expand...

Hillary's supporters literally did not show up.

Are you saying it is a conspiracy? :P

Something similar happened in the Nevada caucuses in 2008, if I recall correctly.

Obama managed to get more delegates in the end despite Hillary winning the initial caucuses.
 
I wouldn't consider it biased. No more biased than the Washington Post at least. Did you see the second video I posted?

This is the part where you roll your eyes right?
 
balladofwindfishes said:
Momentum hasn't meant anything for Bernie the entire election, why would it matter now?

Also mathematically, he actually does need to win NY by huge margins, unless he plans on winning 85% of California or something.
Click to expand...

Ambient80 said:
No, he really does. He absolutely must, actually, and that's an objective fact. Unless you expect a three point win in NY to translate to a 60 point win in Cali?
Click to expand...
It's 54% in New York and 58% in California that puts him on track to the nomination according to PoliChart.

While those numbers will take some real effort to achieve I do more than just clicking like on dank memes on Facebook and posting on NeoJAF threads so I have hope
 
HariKari said:
He should be taking maximum contributions from the wealthy instead. They can spare it.
Click to expand...

I'm going to assume this is a jab at either Hillary Clinton or politicians in general. Last time I checked Bernie Sanders is the one purporting to be not a real politician, and an outsider. A man who fights for the people and isn't bought by big corporations. A guy who is honorable and trustworthy. At what point should we start to actually hold him to that standard because I can guarantee you right now he's going to continue taking those donations even if he loses in NY. Snake oil salesmen is going to continue to be a snake oil salesman. My point being you can't have it both ways. You can't be the man of the people while taking donations when you don't have a real shot at winning. He knows it, his campaign knows it, and most rational human beings know this right now. Barring a massive miracle he's done.
 
What's with all the people shitting on Bernie for accepting donations from people that want him to win? Is such a silly attack used against other politicians?
 
Listening to npr yesterday I heard that most of the roadmaps for Trump getting a majority of delegates had him winning Wisconsin. Now that Cruz won instead is a contested convention almost guaranteed?
 
Geg said:
Listening to npr yesterday I heard that most of the roadmaps for Trump getting a majority of delegates had him winning Wisconsin. Now that Cruz won instead is a contested convention almost guaranteed?
Click to expand...

Not at all, the GOP race is so unpredictable. Depends how well he does in NY and Cali.

But if you had to bet, definitely bet on a contested convention.
 
Crayons said:
It's 54% in New York and 58% in California that puts him on track to the nomination according to PoliChart.

While those numbers will take some real effort to achieve I do more than just clicking like on dank memes on Facebook and posting on NeoJAF threads so I have hope
Click to expand...
That assumes he will have the same margins in the rest of the states. The necessary percentage of victory in California will only increase if he doesn't perform by high margins in Pennsylvania, Maryland, and New Jersey.

Which means it's not going to be 58% in California, it's going to be higher than that.
 
Crayons said:
It's 54% in New York and 58% in California that puts him on track to the nomination according to PoliChart.

While those numbers will take some real effort to achieve I do more than just clicking like on dank memes on Facebook and posting on NeoJAF threads so I have hope
Click to expand...

Evidently you don't. You think he's winning Maryland, New Jersey ect by any sort of margin let alone double digits?

New York by 8 points? Cali by 16?

You just look silly posting those numbers.
 
Mr. RPG said:
Hillary's supporters literally did not show up.

Are you saying it is a conspiracy? :P

Something similar happened in the Nevada caucuses in 2008, if I recall correctly.

Obama managed to get more delegates in the end despite Hillary winning the initial caucuses.
Click to expand...

Well going by one of Nevada's biggest political commentators, there was some possible shady stuff going on, and why the bottom line is:

Caucuses...must...go....

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/polit...real-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/82684666/
 
Mr. RPG said:
By what margins do you think Hillary will win California and New York?
Click to expand...

Cali is pretty far out but 5-10 for Hillary.

NY probably 15-20 due to how it is setup for establishment Democrats. No independents. Can't switch to the Dem party unless you did it last year. Must pre-register if a new voter (no same day). She is actually a popular state Senator. List goes on...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

The Rehearsal season 2 - April 20th.
27
679
DKehoe replied
Those who lived, terror attack in Stockholm, april 7, 2017. We survived.
4
586
Trilobit replied
This is not a April Fool's 2025 thread
0
291
San Dan Glokta replied
A24 - Alex Garland - WARFARE - April 11
41
2K
skneogaf replied
Do you think there are any police departments in the U.S. these days without body cams ?
2
118
Mistake replied
Top Bottom