THR: Warner Bros. Mulls Releasing Fewer Films as 'Batman v. Superman' Stalls

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Sephzilla

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That's assuming they wouldn't be willing to sell DC comics, isn't it? I don't see why it would have to be an all or nothing thing. You don't have to sell the Harry Potter film rights with the DC comics film rights.

Assuming Warner Bros would want to sell DC Comics, Disney probably wouldn't be allowed to purchase it because monopoly laws would drop on them faster than BvS Rotten Tomatoes score because then Disney would have an overwhelmingly huge amount of the comic book industry.
 
Is it really all Snyder though? MoS had a few script problems and questionable decisions, and from the sounds of things it looks like BvS has the same issue (haven't seen it yet).

Marvel caught lightning in a bottle on the back of an excellent, career saving performance by RDJ, and then took a chance on making further films (hit or miss) more character focused than similar films in the past.

And of course they benefited from being the first to do the universe type films for comic book properties and people went nuts. Nowadays it's not only common but expected really.

The writers on films like this don't work in a vacuum and then hand a script off to Snyder for him to go and happily film without objection. The director leads story meetings, comes up with the big ideas and big beats, gives notes to his writers, Snyder is definitely equally responsible for the narrative in these films even if he wasn't the one sitting in front of Final Draft.
 
Wachowskis haven't really done anything critically acclaimed or successful in a while in the movie business. I don't even know how their Netflix show really did either since Netflix doesn't release those numbers.

Jupiter got away from them and they just went with it instead of killing that shit dead

Warner's 2014/2015 years have been trash for them financially but fun as fuck for me because inbetween the bombs, they've had some real killer shit

Instead of banking on that, they're RIP
 

fallengorn

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Jupiter Ascending
Pan
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How can non-industry people like us KNOW that these would be total bombs but the execs being paid ton$ of money greenlighting them had no idea? Someone tell me

I didn't need to see the trailers for any of them either. I couldve told them right off that dumping $150 million into Jupiter Ascending was a bad idea.

It's like that old Bruce Campbell joke...

“I’m Frank Marshall. I’ve produced all of Steven Spielberg’s movies. Interested? Okay, I’ve got a book written by Michael Crichton. I’m going to get John Patrick Shanley, the Academy Award-winning writer of Moonstruck, to adapt it. It’ll be shot by Allen Daviau, who did E.T. Will you make this movie? Well, congratulations! You just made Congo.”
 
Making a movie with Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman is the opposite of "risky". It's like betting on an NBA superteam of Lebron/Wade/Bosh to win a bunch of games.

It's performance is noteworthy not because it failed to add onto the goodwill Nolan had already built for the character, but because it actively turned people away.
 
Is it really all Snyder though? MoS had a few script problems and questionable decisions, and from the sounds of things it looks like BvS has the same issue (haven't seen it yet).

Marvel caught lightning in a bottle on the back of an excellent, career saving performance by RDJ, and then took a chance on making further films (hit or miss) more character focused than similar films in the past.

And of course they benefited from being the first to do the universe type films for comic book properties and people went nuts. Nowadays it's not only common but expected really.

He's the one who pushed for Superman breaking Zod's neck, used satirical YouTube kill count videos to get a feel for Batman, casted Eisenberg as Lex and god knows what else...
 

witness

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Just replace Snyder, he is just too divisive with critics and the GA to make JL. They cannot let him sink this brand. Luckily we have SS and WW before JL to hopefully build some good will before JL.
 

jett

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Who knew, WB needs to rely on its villains to save it #InAyerWeTrust

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But at least he has two fresh movies in there, which is more than Snyder at least.
 

Beefy

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People take a risk, and they get ripped to shreds for it.
All superhero movies to be Marvel formula based from now on. Yay.

I just hope this means they cancel Aquaman, and cancel Cyborg.

Nope they made a shit movie. What's risky about having the two biggest superheros in a film? If had a good story it would have been a hit with ease.
 
The actual article says that they aren't considering any changes to the DC slate yet.

I can believe that WB is inept enough for that to be true.

well, they're in too deep with suicide squad and ww. Both are essentially done.

It would also take a miracle to stop JL from happening. they've got too much riding on it between actors schedules, tax breaks, and needing a summer blockbuster of some sort for the future. What you can hope for is that they might have some sort of entity monitoring the production to prevent it from being another shitshow.

Might be too late for that though
 

Interfectum

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Making a movie with Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman is the opposite of "risky". It's like betting on an NBA superteam of Lebron/Wade/Bosh to win a bunch of games.

It's performance is noteworthy not because it failed to add onto the goodwill Nolan had already built for the character, but because it actively turned people away.

Yup. This should have been a Jurassic World-style knock out of the park. If I were WB I wouldn't even know where to go at this point with DC.
 

Blade30

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... That's every big blockbuster nowadays.

The Movie was announced three years ago and was supposed to be released the year after, but it got delayed twice. It's not really the same, especially for such iconic characters like Batman and Superman.

The writers on films like this don't work in a vacuum and then hand a script off to Snyder for him to go and happily film without objection. The director leads story meetings, comes up with the big ideas and big beats, gives notes to his writers, Snyder is definitely equally responsible for the narrative in these films even if he wasn't the one sitting in front of Final Draft.

Snyder came even up with some (bad) ideas, i.e. Jimmy Olsen, casting J. Eisenberg as Lex although he was auditioning for another role, BvS ending
Superman's Death
... and these are the ones we know of (so far).
 
Warner Bros. is not going to sell DC. I'm not even sure why that is being discussed.

Because for a lot of people who follow superhero films, it's less about story and more like a weird game of fantasy football. Everyone thinks they're a general manager.

So why wouldn't you just be able to swing a trade or pick up an entire studio off the waiver wire, right?
 
maybe they should wait for suicide squad's performance before changing their game plan

honestly i've been more interested in that film this whole time than bvs.
 

Chariot

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Just replace Snyder, he is just too divisive with critics and the GA to make JL. They cannot let him sink this brand. Luckily we have SS and WW before JL to hopefully build some good will before JL.
...which will be lost again if JL is again like BvS. And people will be cautions to commit after being disappointed so far. The threat of Snyder can cut very deeply into the success of the movies, not matter if they're good or not.
 

Interfectum

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People take a risk, and they get ripped to shreds for it.
All superhero movies to be Marvel formula based from now on. Yay.

I just hope this means they cancel Aquaman, and cancel Cyborg.

It's not a binary choice. Not copying Marvel doesn't mean they have to make a shit movie.

Hell, Superman is so fucked he'd be lucky to get a Marvel style movie (quality and popularity) at this point.
 
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Because for a lot of people who follow superhero films, it's less about story and more like a weird game of fantasy football. Everyone thinks they're a general manager.

So why wouldn't you just be able to swing a trade or pick up an entire studio off the waiver wire, right?

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JimiNutz

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Snyder has to go.

Also need to crack on with that standalone Batman film. That's what the general public want, more Batman and more Joker.
 

Makonero

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The actual article says that they aren't considering any changes to the DC slate yet.

I can believe that WB is inept enough for that to be true.

Remember the statement that F4nt4stic 4 2 was still a go for awhile after the first movie scorched the earth? It's too early to make sweeping changes just yet.

But I hope they do remove Snyder, he's an awful fit for the DCU.
 

munchie64

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But at least he has two fresh movies in there, unlike Snyder who has none, lol.
The fact that two those movies are both pretty high and that Ayer is yet again the taking both the screenwriter and director's chair should give a bit of hope.

Personally, I like every movie he's written.

Edit: That made it seem like he didn't write Sabotage, which he did, so my last statement was a lie.
 

Anth0ny

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Give the DCTV/DCA people control of the DC movies. They've proven they actually know what they're doing when it comes to these characters.

Specifically the team behind Flash at the moment. They'd put out something awesome.

too bad it will never happen :(
 

kswiston

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Because for a lot of people who follow superhero films, it's less about story and more like a weird game of fantasy football. Everyone thinks they're a general manager.

So why wouldn't you just be able to swing a trade or pick up an entire studio off the waiver wire, right?

It just requires 20 seconds of thought to see how ridiculous that whole idea is. DC has a lot of value, even if they aren't making feature films based off of it. Hell, it would be worth keeping just for Batman and Lego tie ins across all types of media.
 

Liamario

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Is rebooting really an option? They've put all their eggs in one basket and it's prize egg is rotten. I don't know how they're going to resolve this to be quite honest. Wonder Woman is coming out.

I think they definitely should put justice league on hold. Focus on Batman and getting a great superman movie out there. They can correct the ship at this point, but it won't be easy.
 

Fury451

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Really though, I think the lesson WB needs to learn here is to cut ties with directors and stop expecting people to be able to recapture lightening in a bottle for you.

The fact that they make original films isn't their problem, it's that they continue to work with filmmakers like The Wachowski's and Snyder on continuously bigger projects despite continuous failures, just because they made a hit for them back in the day.

This is on point. I definitely see this now, but didn't realize that that's exactly what they've been doing, and it kneecaps them every time.

Don't they watch their own movies before they release them?

Of course. I'm sure phrases like "first intelligent comic film", "bold new creative vision" and "groundbreaking storytelling and universe" get thrown out a lot.
 
Film is already fucked more or less. They're going through some costly reshoots right now to inject humor into the film in response to what is happening with BvS.
the fuck? seriously? ugh...am I the only one who feels like its box office performance drop (not its reception, I agree with it mostly) is kinda exaggerated? yes, maybe it's falling under expectations but it's still a pretty big success, all things considered, is it not?
 

tomtom94

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It's okay to have high-risk flops like Jupiter Ascending and Pan, studios can budget for that. But then you need your tentpole films to make enough money.

When you fuck up the safe stuff, it's the risky stuff that suffers.
 

hamchan

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Holy shit.

BvS not even making it to 1 billion would be the most shocking thing at the box office this year, bigger than Deadpool.
 
I don't even see how the blame lies entirely on Snyder as a director. The screenplay and writing is flat out bad. This Goyer and Terrio's mess, Snyder just made it look cool.

the fuck? seriously? ugh...am I the only one who feels like its box office performance drop (not its reception, I agree with it mostly) is kinda exaggerated? yes, maybe it's falling under expectations but it's still a pretty big success, all things considered, is it not?

Movies like this barely break even at $500-600 million. Sony only netted something like $70 million from ASM2, which made over $700 million. Movies with $250 million budgets are designed to make $400 million domestic, $1 billion+ WW, or they are no longer tentpoles, they are passion projects.
 
Is rebooting really an option? They've put all their eggs in one basket and it's prize egg is rotten. I don't know how they're going to resolve this to be quite honest. Wonder Woman is coming out.

I think they definitely should put justice league on hold. Focus on Batman and getting a great superman movie out there. They can correct the ship at this point, but it won't be easy.

If Justice League is as bad as BvS they could always use the Flash to do a soft-reboot like X-Men lol
 
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