BrokenFiction
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And the music is really tight and tense too. Great great scene.
Captain America: Civil War - Final Trailer
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And the music is really tight and tense too. Great great scene.
bananafactory
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Holy shit.
I can't recall a Marvel film that had a review embargo more than a week early.
Actually, I can't recally ANY big action film that had one THIS far ahead of release.
I can't recall a Marvel film that had a review embargo more than a week early.
Actually, I can't recally ANY big action film that had one THIS far ahead of release.
bananafactory
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bananafactory
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Maybe the movie is awful and they're hoping the bad review buzz will die down before May 6.
...no? Anyone?
...no? Anyone?
That's what I'm thinking too.
bananafactory
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It's also dangerous for spoilers. A lot of late embargoes are due to containing the story (like The Force Awakens).
There's going to be a lot of people who saw the whole thing 3 weeks out...leaks are probable
Spill the beans!
AquaWateria
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You're only to blame for expecting Spiderman to have much screentime.
Just don't expect much.
I bet he has more screen time than Wonder Woman in BvS
Do press usually leak spoilers though? It's not like these are public screenings (I think?).
bananafactory
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Yeah I've been keeping my own expectations in check. I'm sure it'll be amazing (pun intended) but brief.
Not directly, but they are seeing it in theatres which means the film reels are there and so are theatre staff. And even if critics don't directly leak, all it takes is them saying something and trusting the wrong person .
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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That wouldn't be hard.
I don't really care about that. I'm there for Steve.
Nice. And since I live near NYC I think I'm good (cause that's one city that's guaranteed to win).
I hope not. I'd argue that Wonder Woman had TOO much screen time in BvS and distracted from the main story. I hope that Spidey is limited to a brief appearance in the beginning and shows up during the big fight only. Otherwise it could potentially distract from the more important Cap/Bucky/Iron Man plot.
Broken Joystick
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Spider-Man (small BVS spoilers)
would probably also learn about other superheroes through his computer
BrokenFiction
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I was okay with Wonder Woman's screen time in BvS, so that's actually fine by me lol
It's about what I'm expecting, probably less even.
Him and Black Panther for me. Spider-Man is my favorite character but I've seen more than enough of him in every form of media.
The thing with the F4 rights is that Fox doesn't own them, it's Constantin Film Productions, the same production company that has held them since before the unreleased 1994 version that was made just to hold on to the rights. That complicates things since it seems they are not wiling to let go, given their track record thus far.
It does seem like more of a possibility than ever given how the Spider-Man situation worked out and how Fant4stic bombed, but since characters like Hulk and Namor have legal rights issues that have held things back even when Marvel technically has the right back to make the films or use the characters, I don't think everyone is always willing to sell or they want a price that Marvel/Disney is not willing to pay. Spider-Man is a unique situation since his name is so big and he is so vital to the Marvel Universe, but even then, he's not worth as much to Sony since all their films' profits were steadily declining and they don't make money off Spider-Man marketing so it would make sense for them to stop making Spider-Man films for the time being if the IP wasn't so valuable. That's why they aren't willing to sell him back to Marvel/Disney, or at least there isn't a value they can't both agree on.
A production company like Constantin doesn't even make the F4 films themselves and they know the IP is valuable, at least to Marvel, so even if it doesn't look like a F4 franchise can bank off the name alone these days, they'll still want to get as much of it as they can even if it means they make a fake film to hold on to the rights.
Less would be better. Enough to get people excited, but not enough to distract from the most important part of the movie. And to be honest. I could give a rat's ass about the Avengers vs Avengers stuff in this movie. I just want to see the Cap and Bucky stuff.
Damn, hype is approaching maximum already. These next few weeks got me like
just wait until it's out in europe but not north america
just wait until it's out in europe but not north america
It's not fair. He's Captain AMERICA, dammit!!
Kid Kamikaze10
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I'm surprised by how much this movie and Winter Soldier has been so well hidden, plot wise.
Like, if I hadn't been keeping up with the production news, I'd have no idea who the villain is in this movie.
Like, if I hadn't been keeping up with the production news, I'd have no idea who the villain is in this movie.
PhoncipleBone
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Embargo lifting so early shows a lot of confidence. And interesting to get the reviews out while BvS is still very fresh in people's minds. Expect many reviews to do a lot of comparisons.
Escape Goat
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They show you in the trailer? Antagonist might be a better term. Might...
We can thank Disney marketing team for that. I don't know shit about Star Wars TFA plot until I saw it and I watched all the trailers.
Same thing for The Jungle Book.
Don't forget the guitar riff.
just wait until it's out in europe but not north america
That's some major bullshit
bananafactory
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I didn't see Zemo in any of the trailers. Unless I missed him?
Pai Pai Master
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We have not seen any Zemo yet, or anything even hinting at the role he plays.
Escape Goat
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I was blown away that the Winter Soldier twist was kept under wraps so well. I stayed away from the production of the film but I generally had followed most of the coverage of it an hadn't been too serious about trying to avoid spoilers. Considering they also had a TV show that was dealing with the fall out of the film, it's amazing that it wasn't all over the internet for months before the film came out.
That could be true, but HYDRA is very much Cap's main antagonist in his solo films, while they weren't even in the first Avengers film. I think it's likely HYDRA plays a big role in Civil War as well and Zemo is linked to them in some way.
But who knows. Marvel is probably going to turn our expectations on it's head.
WadiumArcadium
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just wait until it's out in europe but not north america
Haha. It is pretty ironic that we get a Captain America before the US.
At first I was wondering if BvS would end up stealing a lot of Civil War's thunder: holding accountability over superheroes leads to hero vs. hero conflict,
ending with main hero's death?
Hydra (infiltrating Shield) was hidden in the trailers for Winter Soldier, Bucky wasn't the real Villain we thought (at least the ones who don't know the comics) he'd be.
Pretty sure it's already been heavily rumoured that this film's Strucker is
~~Crossbones~~
That entire sequence was so tense and hype. And then WS shows up and shit gets even realer.
I can't help but think that it's at least partially intentional. As much as people want to say that these studios don't compete and don't play into the fan rivalry, it's way too coincidental that there are so many similarities in the themes and even some of the marketing leading up to release. The first Civil War trailer released out of nowhere on Jimmy Kimmel to huge hype and then a week later BvS releases a trailer on Jimmy Kimmel? People were arguing that they didn't rush out a trailer in response, but in hindsight, it seems really likely. Even BvS getting moved to the Cap 3 date, I can't help but think that was some pissing contest no matter how much some outlets tried to downplay that game of corporate chicken. Going by some time frames I've heard stated by the Russos and Feige, Cap 3 might not have even been what we know of as Civil War until a couple months after that happened. They renegotiated RDJ's contract to get him and they went into negotiations to get Spider-Man back during that time. Tell me that is not some chess move.
Been thinking this same thing not long after I walked out of the theater for BvS. That movie dealing with so many of the same themes that Civil War is likely to deal with (and has a high probability of handling better), it changes the whole narrative going into Civil War's release. If BvS was amazing, it would have undoubtedly took away a lot of Civil War's steam, but having been such a disappointment may make Civil War look even better if it pulls it off. Should be interesting to see the difference in how they are received.
I think Marvel just being able to focus on the characters and their relationships as well as having given themselves the room to develop each character and this arc made it practically inevitable that Civil War pulls off that aspect better as a film, it's almost unfair to compare the two in hindsight, but it was WB who wanted to try to do this film now, it's just pretty crazy how things worked out that such similar films end up releasing right around the same time (and at one point, almost on the same day).
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