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[G_Berry]

How is dark souls via backwards compat? Worth a purchase?

With quantum break and the early release of dark souls 3 on Xbox I've been on the Xbox a bit more and never really played much of dark souls 1.

 

[shoreu]

Damn what happened to etta?

 

[IdreamofHIME]

How is dark souls via backwards compat? Worth a purchase?

With quantum break and the early release of dark souls 3 on Xbox I've been on the Xbox a bit more and never really played much of dark souls 1.

Runs better than the 360 version for the most part, but has some weird slow down in places that the 360 didn't have.

 

[Novocaine]

How is dark souls via backwards compat? Worth a purchase?

With quantum break and the early release of dark souls 3 on Xbox I've been on the Xbox a bit more and never really played much of dark souls 1.

Runs just fine. There are still some frame drops but it never reached the point of being unplayable. No worse than what DS3 gets if that helps.

 

[EBE]

i know im late but Alan Wake runs BEAUTIFULLY
still looks quite good, too

 

[SwolBro]

Hopefully soon. I tweeted to Phil about it and he said stay tuned to me about a month ago

don't you play with my feelings dude, don't you dare do it

 

[Chitown B]

i know im late but Alan Wake runs BEAUTIFULLY
still looks quite good, too

Word. I'm so happy for that since it's one of my favorite games and now it continues on with me to current gen. I've 100% it and I still run through it every once in awhile.

 

[RoslindaleOne]

i know im late but Alan Wake runs BEAUTIFULLY
still looks quite good, too

Did they fix the black crush problem?

 

[sir_dany12]

Did they fix the black crush problem?

It wasn't an actual problem. It had to do with your RGB settings

 

[josh924]

Monaco: What's Yours Is Mine is now BC.

 

[RoslindaleOne]

It's wasn't an actual problem. It had to do with your RGB settings

Nice. I was waiting for a fix before playing it. I guess I don't have to wait any longer, thanks!

happy to report its not an issue. game looks fantastic. those lighting effects, man. so good

Thanks. Wow, sounds like it's still a looker. Can't wait to start it back up!

 

[EBE]

Did they fix the black crush problem?

happy to report its not an issue. game looks fantastic. those lighting effects, man. so good

 

[Fuchsdh]

i know im late but Alan Wake runs BEAUTIFULLY
still looks quite good, too

Good to hear. Got my code from QB and since I really enjoyed it, looking forward to playing their past work.

Only games I really want on BC now are BioShocks, only game I wish was on BC solely because I still need achievements for them are Borderlands 2 and Worms Armageddon.

 

[Chitown B]

It wasn't an actual problem. It had to do with your RGB settings

that and you have to turn up the black level in-game.

 

[aggienader]

Seems like so many people here can't get enough of RDR which came out 6 years ago... so much that I wonder why they got rid of their 360's if they can't stand to be away from RDR. ;P

I understand what you're saying but there are more factors involved other than just loving RDR.

I got rid of my 360 to get credit for an Xbox One. There are plenty of games that I would play if they made them BC.

RDR isn't one of them though. However, I remember that game fondly and look forward to a sequel.

Not everyone can afford to hold onto games for forever.

 

[Chris1]

Monaco and Doom 3 is now BC



https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/720379792772575232

Phil Spencer on making games not available digital, available digitally for BC.

Expected it happen due to how BC works but I'm curious if they'll be able to put it up for digital on the 360 aswell, or only for the emulator/xbox one.

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

Huh is DOOM 3 not available as Digital version?

 

[mike4001_]

Huh is DOOM 3 not available as Digital version?

There are quiet a few Xbox 360 titles with no digital release.

MS began with the Xbox One to release absolutely everything digital.

 

[naitosan]

Amazing, MS is really on roll with BC titles. I wonder Doom 3 BFG's stereo 3D feature works on XB1.

 

[Forsythia]

Really stupid you can't buy DOOM 3 digitally, as it's digitally available on their servers right now! Come on Bethesda!

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Amazing, MS is really on roll with BC titles. I wonder Doom 3 BFG's stereo 3D feature works on XB1.

It should as Gears 3 does retain its manual S3D mode as does TTT2, I believe, or at least the pre-final version of the BC game did, anyway.

I'd like to test Doom 3 BFG edition, but I bought it for PC instead. Yay for Monaco, though! More local multi games, please.

 

[Bizzquik]

Really stupid you can't buy DOOM 3 digitally, as it's digitally available on their servers right now! Come on Bethesda!

Gotta believe it'll be up for digital sale soon, though, right?
I mean, they want us to buy the game.

I'm kind of surprised that they didn't wait until it was available for digital purchase first before releasing it as a BC title, but maybe they really wanted to get it out there in advance of the Doom multiplayer beta that launches tomorrow.

 

[The Real Napsta]

Is Doom 3 the first disc only BC game?

 

[Chris1]

Really stupid you can't buy DOOM 3 digitally, as it's digitally available on their servers right now! Come on Bethesda!

I think the problem is it's digital but running through an emulator and the digital version of the game might not be compatible with an actual 360 without updating the OS.

I do wonder how they're gonna deal with making games like that available digitally, wouldn't surprise me if they just skipped the 360 and made them digital on XB1 only.

 

[jesu]

I'm pleased about Monaco, that's one I own but I've never played.
Don't know if I bought it or if it was GWG.

 

[Hilbert]

I REALLY want Virtua Fighter 5 FS. I can still find games online and I want to try it with the one controller..

 

[Chris1]

I'm pleased about Monaco, that's one I own but I've never played.
Don't know if I bought it or if it was GWG.

It was GWG

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

I do hope they add Doom 3 for digital purchase. Would like to buy it as well.

 

[The Real Napsta]

I'm still pulling for Metal Gear RIsing.

It would also be cool to get the old Halo games, ODST in particular.

 

[naitosan]

It should as Gears 3 does retain its manual S3D mode as does TTT2, I believe, or at least the pre-final version of the BC game did, anyway.

I'd like to test Doom 3 BFG edition, but I bought it for PC instead. Yay for Monaco, though! More local multi games, please.

Great, I forgot Gears 3 / TTT2 has S3D mode. Thanks!

Now I'm trying to decide if I should buy Doom 3 BFG Edition from Amazon (it goes for $15) or wait for it to become available to buy digitally.

 

[RowdyReverb]

Just found out Doom 3 BFG is BC! Time to dust off that disc that I played for like 10 minutes a few years ago

 

[Scrawnton]

It just dawned on me that not all of these games are sold digitally. So, is Lost Odyssey a digital game? Or, is it physical only?

That's my main BC game.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

It just dawned on me that not all of these games are sold digitally. So, is Lost Odyssey a digital game? Or, is it physical only?

That's my main BC game.

Physical only unfortunately.

 

[Doffen]

It just dawned on me that not all of these games are sold digitally. So, is Lost Odyssey a digital game? Or, is it physical only?

That's my main BC game.

 

[Syriel]

I think the problem is it's digital but running through an emulator and the digital version of the game might not be compatible with an actual 360 without updating the OS.

I do wonder how they're gonna deal with making games like that available digitally, wouldn't surprise me if they just skipped the 360 and made them digital on XB1 only.

The programming work goes into the emulator, not the game, on the One. And all of the games running in the 360 emulator are either unlocked XBLA titles (no trials) or Xbox 360 GoD titles.

If it runs in the emulator, it will run on a physical 360 with the latest system update (assuming the account has the license entitlement in question).

 

[FZW]

I would like some Doom 3 BFG, please!

well i got news for you...

 

[TheKeyPit]

Nice, "IF" they accomplish it.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

This is very exciting. I can't wait to have digital copies of Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey on my XB1!

 

[Chris1]

The programming work goes into the emulator, not the game, on the One. And all of the games running in the 360 emulator are either unlocked XBLA titles (no trials) or Xbox 360 GoD titles.

If it runs in the emulator, it will run on a physical 360 with the latest system update (assuming the account has the license entitlement in question).

They aren't really updating the 360 any more though, so any changes to the emulator now might not work on an actual 360 without updating it.

For example they could update the emulator to handle multi disc game swapping without you physically swapping a disc, but the 360 won't be able to do that without changes to the game or an update to the OS to support it. It's possible they update the 360 OS to support it too, and make those games digitally on the 360 but I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle at this point and it might cause issues with other games (the XB1 doesn't have this problem due to each game and virtual 360 being sandboxes with each other only).

Since the XB1 emulator would support virtual "disc swapping" and the 360 doesn't right now, they could release the 360 BC titles that have multi discs as an xbox one title but they wouldn't be able to put it on the 360 store since it wouldn't actually work on a 360.

If that makes sense, it sounded better in my head

 

[mike4001_]

If it runs in the emulator, it will run on a physical 360 with the latest system update (assuming the account has the license entitlement in question).

This is not true.

There were some 360 titles they did not release digitally because the 360's HDD was slower than their DVD drive.

Some titles had issues running from HDD because of this and so they did not make a digital version at the time.

 

[Syriel]

Since the XB1 emulator would support virtual "disc swapping" and the 360 doesn't right now, they could release the 360 BC titles that have multi discs as an xbox one title but they wouldn't be able to put it on the 360 store since it wouldn't actually work on a 360.

MS could do that on a 360 (and a One) right now if they wanted to, though it would be clunky.

Play disc one. Save game. Quit game back to dash. Load disc two. Load game from save. Finish game.

GoD guidelines want one big disc image for the hard drive, not two. If MS sticks with the guidelines, those older games will have to be repackaged. If it relaxes the guidelines, they won't.

Either way, the images could still run on an existing 360.

This is not true.

There were some 360 titles they did not release digitally because the 360's HDD was slower than their DVD drive.

Some titles had issues running from HDD because of this and so they did not make a digital version at the time.

Those issues were not due to drive speed (the 360 HDD is faster than the DVD drive), but rather the physical data layout on the image. That wouldn't be an issue between the One's emulated 360 and a physical 360 since both would be using GoD images meant for HDD use.

 

[gossi]

I picked up Doom 3 BFG edition for £5 from Amazon.

 

[oneida]

I REALLY want Virtua Fighter 5 FS. I can still find games online and I want to try it with the one controller..

p r e a c h

 

[Black Republican]

yes, hopefully on sale too still buy though

 

[Scrawnton]

Sir/Mam, you just made my day.

 

[dancrane212]

There were some 360 titles they did not release digitally because the 360's HDD was slower than their DVD drive.

Some titles had issues running from HDD because of this and so they did not make a digital version at the time.

Wasn't the slow loading issues due to some games, like GTA IV and Halo 3, caching data on the HDD and reading that simultaneously with the disc? I was under the impression installing one of those games to the HDD had the system caching data from the HDD to the HDD while also trying to access both that cache and the installed disc data which slowed everything down.

Installing the disc data to an external device like a USB drive would correct the issue and the game would load faster like any other 360 disc that was installed.

 

[Garcia el Gringo]

I would double dip, something I rarely do, just to show support. Love it!

 

[The Elite]

Oh god yes please.

 

[The Real Napsta]

Wasn't the slow loading issues due to some games, like GTA IV and Halo 3, caching data on the HDD and reading that simultaneously with the disc? I was under the impression installing the game to the HDD for those games had the system caching data from the HDD to the HDD while also trying to access both that cache and the installed disc data which slowed everything down.

Installing the disc data to an external device like a USB drive would correct the issue and the game would load faster like any other 360 disc that was installed.

Yeah, I remember this. I bought a flash drive just to install Halo 3 on it for that reason.

 

[josh924]

Is Doom 3 really BC? It's funny because I really didn't expect it to be BC anytime soon, so I went ahead and finished the Lost Mission campaign yesterday on my 360 (turns out I was only about an hour away from beating it).