Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Thread: Everyone wants it, no one uses it

How is dark souls via backwards compat? Worth a purchase?

With quantum break and the early release of dark souls 3 on Xbox I've been on the Xbox a bit more and never really played much of dark souls 1.
 
G_Berry said:
How is dark souls via backwards compat? Worth a purchase?

With quantum break and the early release of dark souls 3 on Xbox I've been on the Xbox a bit more and never really played much of dark souls 1.
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Runs better than the 360 version for the most part, but has some weird slow down in places that the 360 didn't have.
 
G_Berry said:
How is dark souls via backwards compat? Worth a purchase?

With quantum break and the early release of dark souls 3 on Xbox I've been on the Xbox a bit more and never really played much of dark souls 1.
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Runs just fine. There are still some frame drops but it never reached the point of being unplayable. No worse than what DS3 gets if that helps.
 
EBE said:
i know im late but Alan Wake runs BEAUTIFULLY
still looks quite good, too
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Word. I'm so happy for that since it's one of my favorite games and now it continues on with me to current gen. I've 100% it and I still run through it every once in awhile.
 
EBE said:
i know im late but Alan Wake runs BEAUTIFULLY
still looks quite good, too
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Good to hear. Got my code from QB and since I really enjoyed it, looking forward to playing their past work.

Only games I really want on BC now are BioShocks, only game I wish was on BC solely because I still need achievements for them are Borderlands 2 and Worms Armageddon.
 
Chitown B said:
Seems like so many people here can't get enough of RDR which came out 6 years ago... so much that I wonder why they got rid of their 360's if they can't stand to be away from RDR. ;P
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I understand what you're saying but there are more factors involved other than just loving RDR.

I got rid of my 360 to get credit for an Xbox One. There are plenty of games that I would play if they made them BC.

RDR isn't one of them though. However, I remember that game fondly and look forward to a sequel.

Not everyone can afford to hold onto games for forever.
 
naitosan said:
Amazing, MS is really on roll with BC titles. I wonder Doom 3 BFG's stereo 3D feature works on XB1.
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It should as Gears 3 does retain its manual S3D mode as does TTT2, I believe, or at least the pre-final version of the BC game did, anyway.

I'd like to test Doom 3 BFG edition, but I bought it for PC instead. Yay for Monaco, though! More local multi games, please.
 
Forsythia said:
Really stupid you can't buy DOOM 3 digitally, as it's digitally available on their servers right now! Come on Bethesda!
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Gotta believe it'll be up for digital sale soon, though, right?
I mean, they want us to buy the game.

I'm kind of surprised that they didn't wait until it was available for digital purchase first before releasing it as a BC title, but maybe they really wanted to get it out there in advance of the Doom multiplayer beta that launches tomorrow.
 
Forsythia said:
Really stupid you can't buy DOOM 3 digitally, as it's digitally available on their servers right now! Come on Bethesda!
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I think the problem is it's digital but running through an emulator and the digital version of the game might not be compatible with an actual 360 without updating the OS.

I do wonder how they're gonna deal with making games like that available digitally, wouldn't surprise me if they just skipped the 360 and made them digital on XB1 only.
 
I REALLY want Virtua Fighter 5 FS. I can still find games online and I want to try it with the one controller..
 
MightyHedgehog said:
It should as Gears 3 does retain its manual S3D mode as does TTT2, I believe, or at least the pre-final version of the BC game did, anyway.

I'd like to test Doom 3 BFG edition, but I bought it for PC instead. Yay for Monaco, though! More local multi games, please.
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Great, I forgot Gears 3 / TTT2 has S3D mode. Thanks!

Now I'm trying to decide if I should buy Doom 3 BFG Edition from Amazon (it goes for $15) or wait for it to become available to buy digitally.
 
It just dawned on me that not all of these games are sold digitally. So, is Lost Odyssey a digital game? Or, is it physical only?

That's my main BC game.
 
Scrawnton said:
It just dawned on me that not all of these games are sold digitally. So, is Lost Odyssey a digital game? Or, is it physical only?

That's my main BC game.
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Chris1 said:
I think the problem is it's digital but running through an emulator and the digital version of the game might not be compatible with an actual 360 without updating the OS.

I do wonder how they're gonna deal with making games like that available digitally, wouldn't surprise me if they just skipped the 360 and made them digital on XB1 only.
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The programming work goes into the emulator, not the game, on the One. And all of the games running in the 360 emulator are either unlocked XBLA titles (no trials) or Xbox 360 GoD titles.

If it runs in the emulator, it will run on a physical 360 with the latest system update (assuming the account has the license entitlement in question).
 
Syriel said:
The programming work goes into the emulator, not the game, on the One. And all of the games running in the 360 emulator are either unlocked XBLA titles (no trials) or Xbox 360 GoD titles.

If it runs in the emulator, it will run on a physical 360 with the latest system update (assuming the account has the license entitlement in question).
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They aren't really updating the 360 any more though, so any changes to the emulator now might not work on an actual 360 without updating it.

For example they could update the emulator to handle multi disc game swapping without you physically swapping a disc, but the 360 won't be able to do that without changes to the game or an update to the OS to support it. It's possible they update the 360 OS to support it too, and make those games digitally on the 360 but I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle at this point and it might cause issues with other games (the XB1 doesn't have this problem due to each game and virtual 360 being sandboxes with each other only).

Since the XB1 emulator would support virtual "disc swapping" and the 360 doesn't right now, they could release the 360 BC titles that have multi discs as an xbox one title but they wouldn't be able to put it on the 360 store since it wouldn't actually work on a 360.

If that makes sense, it sounded better in my head
 
Syriel said:
If it runs in the emulator, it will run on a physical 360 with the latest system update (assuming the account has the license entitlement in question).
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This is not true.

There were some 360 titles they did not release digitally because the 360's HDD was slower than their DVD drive.

Some titles had issues running from HDD because of this and so they did not make a digital version at the time.
 
Chris1 said:
Since the XB1 emulator would support virtual "disc swapping" and the 360 doesn't right now, they could release the 360 BC titles that have multi discs as an xbox one title but they wouldn't be able to put it on the 360 store since it wouldn't actually work on a 360.
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MS could do that on a 360 (and a One) right now if they wanted to, though it would be clunky.

Play disc one. Save game. Quit game back to dash. Load disc two. Load game from save. Finish game.

GoD guidelines want one big disc image for the hard drive, not two. If MS sticks with the guidelines, those older games will have to be repackaged. If it relaxes the guidelines, they won't.

Either way, the images could still run on an existing 360.

mike4001_ said:
This is not true.

There were some 360 titles they did not release digitally because the 360's HDD was slower than their DVD drive.

Some titles had issues running from HDD because of this and so they did not make a digital version at the time.
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Those issues were not due to drive speed (the 360 HDD is faster than the DVD drive), but rather the physical data layout on the image. That wouldn't be an issue between the One's emulated 360 and a physical 360 since both would be using GoD images meant for HDD use.
 
mike4001_ said:
There were some 360 titles they did not release digitally because the 360's HDD was slower than their DVD drive.

Some titles had issues running from HDD because of this and so they did not make a digital version at the time.
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Wasn't the slow loading issues due to some games, like GTA IV and Halo 3, caching data on the HDD and reading that simultaneously with the disc? I was under the impression installing one of those games to the HDD had the system caching data from the HDD to the HDD while also trying to access both that cache and the installed disc data which slowed everything down.

Installing the disc data to an external device like a USB drive would correct the issue and the game would load faster like any other 360 disc that was installed.
 
dancrane212 said:
Wasn't the slow loading issues due to some games, like GTA IV and Halo 3, caching data on the HDD and reading that simultaneously with the disc? I was under the impression installing the game to the HDD for those games had the system caching data from the HDD to the HDD while also trying to access both that cache and the installed disc data which slowed everything down.

Installing the disc data to an external device like a USB drive would correct the issue and the game would load faster like any other 360 disc that was installed.
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Yeah, I remember this. I bought a flash drive just to install Halo 3 on it for that reason.
 
Is Doom 3 really BC? It's funny because I really didn't expect it to be BC anytime soon, so I went ahead and finished the Lost Mission campaign yesterday on my 360 (turns out I was only about an hour away from beating it).
 
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