Democrat Debate 10 |CNN| Sometimes I just wanna punch you in your perfect teeth.

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Bernie just answered the money in Europe question the way I answer questions when I'm drunk. Ramble nonsensical for a minute and then end it with a yes or I agree.
 
rjinaz said:
I kind of hate this race. These two should be very good friends. Comrades in a good fight. I hate that they are more or less enemies right now.
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It'll be fine if the candidates are willing. Hillary and Obama becoming actual friends after 2008, versus the sheer pettiness of Chris Christie in endorsing Trump.

I don't think they'll ever be friends, but Hillary's proven she can forgive and move on, so it's up to Bernie whether or not he wants to cross the bridge.
 
Melkr_ said:
The poster mentioned nuclear and gmos. Those are dependant on hard science. Economics doesnt belong in such category, maybe in the same category of something like the sociology of gun control.
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Or... Just about every science in which there isn't 100% consensus (hint- just about every science).

Again, ridiculous comment.
 
Vanillalite said:
I'm still not sold on what to do with the waste*

*I live near one and have worked at one of the largest government nuclear waste facilities as well as we have the first new private energy nuke reactor in decades being built here. I know a shit ton of smart people that work at both.
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Read up on Generation four / Fast Breeder designs. No waste, and can run on the waste we have now. Very close to a reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_IV_reactor
 
Sanders position on NATO is sadly just another aspect of his bizarre economic populism infecting all other issues. It's actually distressing.
 
Mr. RPG said:
Bernie is the only candidate who fully understands the danger of climate change.

Hillary's plan isn't good enough for me.

Climate change is a big fucking deal. We need someone who will be progressive on this issue. We can't wait until it is too late. We need change now.
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You sound like a plant. What did he actually say?
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Why does Bernie hate big banks when his favorite countries have mostly big banks? Matt from Vox brings this up a lot and it really makes no sense.
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Big banks are much, much more stable than smaller ones due to having their hands in many markets at once- if one crashes, the others can keep it afloat.
So Sanders is Trump basically
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Was saying this in November.
 
Mr. RPG said:
Bernie is the only candidate who fully understands the danger of climate change.

Hillary's plan isn't good enough for me.

Climate change is a big fucking deal. We need someone who will be progressive on this issue. We can't wait until it is too late. We need change now.
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Begin to accept that what you wish is not in the cards. Human beings typically don't learn through reason. Fuck, how much of the world is still caught in religious dogmas? Do you expect the same species to be so clear headed when they swallow such shit?
 
Mr. RPG said:
Bernie is the only candidate who fully understands the danger of climate change.

Hillary's plan isn't good enough for me.

Climate change is a big fucking deal. We need someone who will be progressive on this issue. We can't wait until it is too late. We need change now.
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What is he going to do with a staunch republican opposition? Bernie's plans are completely unfeasible right now. To that end, so are most of Hilary's.
 
kirblar said:
He can't win, and is going out the complete opposite of gracefully.
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He's a conviction politician, not a party hack, and good on him for that.

He's going out the way he came in. Speaking on the issues that he cares about. Why should he start forging a path for Hillary when she will in all likelihood just perpetuate the system that he is raging against?
 
Maxim726X said:
Or... Just about every science in which there isn't 100% consensus (hint- just about every science).

Again, ridiculous comment.
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You dont seem to understand my point. Science, hard science, derives from one, unifiying epistemology. Such is not the same with Economics. Plenty of different schools with different epistemologies.
 
Mr. RPG said:
Bernie is the only candidate who fully understands the danger of climate change.

Hillary's plan isn't good enough for me.

Climate change is a big fucking deal. We need someone who will be progressive on this issue. We can't wait until it is too late. We need change now.
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What is his plan nuclear power is bad according to him, and solar and win can't sustain the power we need. What is his solution?
 
Grug said:
He's not a party man, and good on him for that.

He's going out the way he came in. Speaking on the issues that he cares about. Why should he start forging a path for Hillary when she will in all likelihood just perpetuate the system that he is raging against?
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He's already said when/if he drops out he'll vote for Hillary and fully endorse her. So he's already planning on forging a path for Hillary to be president.
 
Sanders might have pushed that NATO point after the response from Hillary, but this is FP, a topic that can't be over soon enough.
 
Melkr_ said:
You dont seem to understand my point. Science, hard science, derives from one, unifiying epistemology. Such is not the same with Economics. Plenty of different schools with different epistemologies.
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Just started watching from the beginning.

*crowd cheers at something*
"I love being in Brooklyn. This is great."

One of the things that horrifies me the most about this whole process - regardless of candidate or party - is that this kind of absurdly direct pandering is not only effective, but essential. How dumb are we? Jesus, every time there was a photo op or sound byte with candidates eating cheese in Wisconsin I wanted to jump out of the nearest window.
 
Mr. RPG said:
Bernie is the only candidate who fully understands the danger of climate change.

Hillary's plan isn't good enough for me.

Climate change is a big fucking deal. We need someone who will be progressive on this issue. We can't wait until it is too late. We need change now.
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Bernie doesn't seem to have a plan at all though, judging from his issues page. So if Hillary's plan isn't good enough, then what do you think about Bernie's lack of a plan....?
 
Grug said:
He's a conviction politician, not a party hack, and good on him for that.

He's going out the way he came in. Speaking on the issues that he cares about. Why should he start forging a path for Hillary when she will in all likelihood just perpetuate the system that he is raging against?
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No, he's not. He legitimately thought he was going to win and that he could get away with being "above the fray." Now that he's obviously losing, he's thrown out any pretense of playing nice and has been going full-out negative for the last 2 months or so. His values are only his values as long as he's winning.

That's not the behavior of an "issue candidate."
 
ugaboga232 said:
Acceptable? I think all killing is bad. I'm just saying, in that situation, its the result of many factors and not really because tons of people who happen to be poor and black just happen to make the choice to kill a lot. I don't really believe in free will (evidence is pretty crappy against it) so I don't see the point in villifying people like addicts or even murderers (hate the sin love the sinner or something like that). Imagine telling a suicidal person that its easy, just chose not to commit suicide or telling an alcoholic its easy. Its not, its not even a choice.
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I understand or at least I've tried to but I just can't divorce murder from free will. I honestly believe people should know better and that yes there is a choice.
 
Maxim726X said:
Or... Just about every science in which there isn't 100% consensus (hint- just about every science).

Again, ridiculous comment.
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Ok Econ is definitely a science (softer variety) but there is a HUGE difference between econ and biology in terms of the theories. Little details are heavily debated, but its not like there are 3 theories on cells. The problem is because its much harder to test econ theories and its much more theoretical or analysis after the fact.
 
Mr. RPG said:
Bernie is the only candidate who fully understands the danger of climate change.

Hillary's plan isn't good enough for me.

Climate change is a big fucking deal. We need someone who will be progressive on this issue. We can't wait until it is too late. We need change now.
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Will support him as soon as he gets his good friend Jim Inhofe aboard.
 
balladofwindfishes said:
He's already said when/if he drops out he'll vote for Hillary and fully endorse her. So he's already planning on forging a path for Hillary to be president.
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Only as a lesser of two evils I suspect.

But my point remains, while he feels he is still in the contest he owes her nothing.
 
I was going to post saying that Bernie was giving a really good answer on Israel-Palestine and then he started walking it back.

But he's finishing strong here, although I wish he would commit to two-state.
 
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