Octavianus
Banned
I think it's a pretty cool name for a buch of cybernetic t-rex
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Stellaris - Paradox Dev Studios new sci-fi grand strategy game
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Poodlestrike
Banned
They'll be back.
Sorta suggests the idea that the Fallen Empires at one point went through the endgame disasters too. Nifty.
Shit like this is why they went on their crusade.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
Is this how I should do the 40k Imperium of Man?
Hope that changing the title of your ruler is possible, Despotic Empire as a government form does not really represent it too well when it comes to boni IMO.
Hope that changing the title of your ruler is possible, Despotic Empire as a government form does not really represent it too well when it comes to boni IMO.
The Outofspacelands.
After playing around with that tool it looks like the version of humanity I will be taking into space will be
Ethos: Individualist, Materialist, Xenophile
Government: Indirect Democracy
Traits: Quick Learners, Charismatic
Summary
+10% Energy credits
+5% Engineering output
+5% Ethics divergence
+25% Leader experience gain
-10% Leader recruitment cost
+1 Leader skill levels
+1% Other species happiness per POP
+5% Physics output
-50% Slavery tolerance
+5% Society output
-10% Xenophobia
Though I am not 100 percent on the traits.
Ethos: Individualist, Materialist, Xenophile
Government: Indirect Democracy
Traits: Quick Learners, Charismatic
Summary
+10% Energy credits
+5% Engineering output
+5% Ethics divergence
+25% Leader experience gain
-10% Leader recruitment cost
+1 Leader skill levels
+1% Other species happiness per POP
+5% Physics output
-50% Slavery tolerance
+5% Society output
-10% Xenophobia
Though I am not 100 percent on the traits.
mcz117chief
Member
mcz117chief
Member
If you want 40k empire of men then you pick: militarist, xenophobe, spiritual and divine mandate government. That is pretty much 100% accurate depiction of the empire.
edit: sorry for double post, I forgot I posted just a moment ago.
I'd say the Empire of Man isn't a military dictatorship in 40k, it's a Theocratic Oligarchy or a Military Junta since the Emperor isn't ruling and instead by the High Lords of Terra.
Red Arremer
Member
Fear the might of the Klingon Empire.
If a Klingon does not fight, he does not breathe.
Make allies if you must, but never leave the Empire without an enemy.
Klingons were born to fight and conquer. A true leader will never forget this.
Ethoses
Fanatic Militarist, Spiritualist
Government
Military Republic
Positive Traits
Resilient, Strong
Negative Traits
None
Summary
- Admirals/generals are eligible for rulership
- +75% Alliance cost
- +40% Army damage
- -15% Army upkeep
- +200% Bombardment resistance
- +5% Happiness
- +100% Militia health
- +5% Minerals
- +50% Rivalry influence gain
- -15% Ship upkeep
- +10% War happiness
- +100% War tolerance
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's a shame there's no Massively Cumbersome Bureaucracy option. That'd be the Adeptus Terra to a T.
Maybe one of the Fallen government types would be the best approximation...
But yeah, you need a Spiritualist component to really get the Imperium down right. On the balance, between Theocratic Oligarchy and Military Junta, I'd pick the military since the church was deliberately depowered after that Vandermire business.
mcz117chief
Member
You can set what salutations other races use when they communicate with you, so you can have the entire galaxy call you "fukin prawns" if you want to.
edit: actually it only allows you edit species name, plural and adjective. But I guess that is close enough.
More_Badass
Member
So I know you uplift, but can your people be uplifted?
First thing I did was bash in the Krogan.
Ethos: Fanatic Militarist, Xenophobe
Government: Military Dictatorship
Traits: Slow Breeders, Repugnant, Very Strong
These guys already sound fun to play.
edit:
I was going to do the Culture as well. My version was a little different:
Ethos: Pacifist, Materialist, Individualist
Government: Peaceful Bureaucracy
Traits: Intelligent, Enduring, Decadent
Kind of painful to be a decadent individualist race. But I guess that's why you need to build those robots right away.
Ethos: Fanatic Militarist, Xenophobe
Government: Military Dictatorship
Traits: Slow Breeders, Repugnant, Very Strong
These guys already sound fun to play.
edit:
I was going to do the Culture as well. My version was a little different:
Ethos: Pacifist, Materialist, Individualist
Government: Peaceful Bureaucracy
Traits: Intelligent, Enduring, Decadent
Kind of painful to be a decadent individualist race. But I guess that's why you need to build those robots right away.
Poodlestrike
Banned
No, but you could always reload your save as an uplifted species.
More_Badass
Member
To be fair, to some beings from another dimensional plane or from behind the borders of the galaxy or to a machine race, you might be as intelligent to them as termites are to us
Ooh, buuuurn.
Not if you're playing the game correctly
I'd love to see a late game crisis where a Fallen Empire comes back and kindly offers to uplift you
It would be kinda cool if you could start the game as an uplifted race, part of a big empire that's about to fall apart, or something.
piratepwnsninja
Member
DLC
Or generally as part of an Fallen Empire. Like the sentient AI of one, a minority planet that used to kept down by the Empire or a colony at the outer edges of one. Advantage: good technology from the very beginning, disadvantage: huge enemy at the beginning. making diplomacy and political plays very important.
Also fuck, we need something Zod. Like a small fleet entering from the warp, seeing their homeworld destroyed, forced to settle on some other planet and rebuild it from scratch. Con: late to the party in planet development and low pop of the own race, but with an established, strong fleet and maybe remnants of technology.
SmiteOfHand
Member
Scenario construction such as this is what has me curious for the novel. It has a better framework for fiction than the historically set games, where I would read historical books rather than alt. history fiction or whatever.
Although I reiterate my expectations are set to rock bottom. Not like there isn't loads of sci-fi I need to get around to reading.
mcz117chief
Member
Is the ability to rename people in the game yet? I think it is one of the last things that are on my immediate wishlist.
DiscoShark
Banned
They added that shortly after AngryJoe did his little interview/gameplay preview with the designers.
https://twitter.com/RikardAslund/status/715433010569551872
mcz117chief
Member
Great, I watched Joe's interview too and he did make a very good point so I was all aboard that one, I am glad they took his suggestion to hear. Paradox love to do that, they hear something one day and add it the next, like the ability to make your custom aliens appear in the game, huge kudos to Paradox.
ShogunDarius
Member
so the cosmetic pre order races, will they have unique ai or anything like that?
Nope.
Only a new look for you to choose.
ShogunDarius
Member
I assume they can populate the universe? do they replace default races then but keep the ai of the race they replace? is there a limit on the number of races a single game can have?
von Stroheim
Member
Ah Blorg 12 is finally up! I was getting the DTs from withdrawal.....
Octavianus
Banned
Yeah, 'decadent' makes sense because they're often described as such, so I was thinking about picking that trait, but they obviously don't approve of slavery so I decided against it.
I picked direct democracy because there have been a couple of issues that were so hotly debated everyone was allowed to vote in order to get a consensus. Like whether or not to go to war with the Idirans.
hobblygobbly
Member
The AI in Stellaris is not tied to race. The AI is determined by a lot of factors, government type, ethos, traits, etc, the visual representation of a species is purely cosmetic.
As such, extra races don't replace default races or anything, it's just a huge pool that the game can choose when it generates a race when you start a game or when you create a custom/tuned race, (i.e you ethos, government, traits, etc for and give it a visual representation and name), which you can specify for the game to use (or for you to use).
As far as I know, you can start a game with a set of 50 empires in the galaxy (not sure if this includes fallen empires already). However, during gameplay this can increase even. For example, native races on a planet (which aren't empires or anything yet), if left alone can become a new empire. There is no specific limit on races, since a game can have multiple races on planets that can exist independent of an empire, which you can incorporate (or enslave...) into your empire. In other words, race and empires aren't exclusive to each other, in Stellaris there is no empire like in typical 4x strategy games that are comprised of one type of race only which is also tied to AI, I suppose this can be confusing to some since that had become a norm in the past.
Also I think other things can occur that can affect an empire, such as civil war, where an empire can be split, and or if won, its government type even changed, which can affect its AI, etc. For example, if the opposition/rebels manage to overthrow from the empire from a military dictatorship to a moral democracy, then that will have a major change on how that empire operates going forward as AI. As with paradox grand strategies, there's a lot of emergent gameplay from this.
AI of the game is driven by mechanics, not its visual representation, so yeah things like the preorder races isn't adding any mechanics or AI, it's just more variety to a big pool of races already.
Paradox has two forms of DLC with their previous games and will no doubt be the same with Stellaris - cosmetic DLC and expansion DLC. Cosmetic DLC is purely cosmetic, it's music, art, etc, so you will see DLC in the future of new races, new ship models, etc. They have no affect on gameplay. Then there are expansion DLCs, these introduce entirely new features/mechanics and also expand on existing ones, etc. Like other paradox games, even these preorder DLCs will be available to you as a standalone DLC at some point too.
Makes sense. I think it depends on how some mechanics end up implemented -- I assumed that you could build non-sentient robots to act as slaves. Obviously the Culture is also full of sentient robots, but that's apparently harder to build.
I think your version does well for the Idiran War period, but I think most of the Culture stories are much more bureaucratic, Minds run everything in terms of how things are generally run.
ShogunDarius
Member
interesting, so in the standard game how many races is in the pool? is there a list so I can see what they look like i'm curious
I don't believe there are any "standard races" like there are in other games. There's randomly generated ones, and I suppose player created ones that are added to a pool.
Bjaelke posted a picture containing all(?) character portraits in the game.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201245082&postcount=1414
However, there are no "races" in the same way as in Endless Space, Master of Orion, Galactic Civilizations, instead as far as I understand it, you create your own race giving them a name, ideologies, traits etc. and all the races you meet are generated in the same manner.
ShogunDarius
Member
one last question, will I like this game if I liked CK2 (only after watching like 2 hours of Tutorial Videos on youtube to learn to play it)
Yes. Although you should look at tutorial videos of EUIV too. It will be closer to that ome than to CKII afaik.
Sickboy007
Member
They really put a lot of care and effort into these little animations.
Octavianus
Banned
They really put a lot of care and effort into these little animations.
Yeah it adds a lot. I was pretty disappointed in a lot of them when those small pictures were all we had, but some of the ones that I thought looked the worst actually look really cool when animated.
DavionStriker
Member
I have been following this game since announcement. Preorder is in and I am getting stoked. This is going to be my first grand strategy game... or so I thought. I tried EU4 and was completely overwhelmed. Watching Quill, I was able to duplicate what he did with Castile, but I couldnt make my own decisions.
In reading this thread, the situation with the Blorg looked too good to pass up. I streamed all the Space Friends vids. Thanks to that, I now understand the general flow of a grand strategy. Frankly, before watching that, I was trying to play like Civ 5. I am now around 3 hours into my first real EU4 game as Portugal and am loving every second of it. I am thinking Stellaris is going to dominate my life for the foreseeable future.
In reading this thread, the situation with the Blorg looked too good to pass up. I streamed all the Space Friends vids. Thanks to that, I now understand the general flow of a grand strategy. Frankly, before watching that, I was trying to play like Civ 5. I am now around 3 hours into my first real EU4 game as Portugal and am loving every second of it. I am thinking Stellaris is going to dominate my life for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, Paradox Grand Strategy games are certainly not the kind of games you just pick up and play. Watching tutorials, reading guides, failing over and over again, while fucking Austria is cackling, it's a harsh, but fun process and makes actual understanding what to do so much more rewarding.