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"10 months ago I would have lost by 80%. Tonight we closed the gap to 10-15%. We have the momentum. We are fucking winning. Yehaw!"

*waves finger*
I can't wait. I really hope the delusion can be strung out for as long as possible to let the tears ferment and fortify, making them all the more delicious when the train reaches its final destination.
 
In the same way I can still will the lottery I suppose.

Yeah... It's possible. It's also possible that a meteor lands on my house tonight and kills me.

Both are equally likely scenarios at this point.

Nah his odds are much better than that. If you could look at a thousand parallel universes Bernie probably wins in one or two of them at this point. Hillary might slip on a banana peel, or maybe there's another financial crisis - the student loan bubble is going to pop soon, something like that could give Bernie a surge.
 
haha now that is setting the bar quite high. A tiny win (and maybe even a virtual tie) could be spun by him and the media as a win.

On the GOP side, what does GAF want?
Trump sweep or Cruz catching up?

Contested convention would be fun, but Trump securing the nomination is also fun.

Trump is best for Dems in 2016, even better if he comes from a contested convention. Then he'll be as weak as possible in November, but Cruz will still be able to screw things up for them in 2020. If Cruz gets it, he'll still get blown out this year, but Trump's loser's complex would keep him out for 2020 (public embarrassment seriously works on the guy; see: bankruptcies, the hand thing), which would pave the way for someone like Ryan to run in 2020.

Basically, the GOP has got to take their lumps for supporting the Tea Party, and then they can move on. That doesn't happen until a chosen son of the Tea Party gets blasted nationally, and that's Cruz. Trump has some overlap, but he's a populist nationalist, while the Tea Party is a bit more evangelical than that (i.e. Trump's support is heavily Tea Party, while Cruz's support is 100% TP). The GOP honestly needs Cruz to win so that they can put this mess behind them more quickly.

Strategically, if you're a Dem, you stall that as long as possible. Never let them run that Tea Partier.
 
Nah his odds are much better than that. If you could look at a thousand parallel universes Bernie probably wins in one or two of them at this point. Hillary might slip on a banana peel, or maybe there's another financial crisis - the student loan bubble is going to pop soon, something like that could give Bernie a surge.

Holy shit the banana peel got me.
 
The exit polls look good for Sanders. If NY was open he could have pulled an upset, I presume.

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Nah his odds are much better than that. If you could look at a thousand parallel universes Bernie probably wins in one or two of them at this point. Hillary might slip on a banana peel, or maybe there's another financial crisis - the student loan bubble is going to pop soon, something like that could give Bernie a surge.

I am joking on a banana reading this!
 
Are you ready!?! Sanders is going (hopefully) to surprise and get this VERY close, closer than anyone thought!

10 months ago he would have lost by 80%. That's all that matters. The past, not the present.

"Fuck you New York, I don't need your support. Y'all are a bunch of Wall Street criminals anyway, which is why California voters will be smarter and vote for me since there's no Wall Street there."
 
My point is Bernie has a tough path, but he will make it out. All the way to the convention we go!

He will be going to the convention with less delegates. What are you expecting to happen? It's like a second place winner showing up and demanding the first place winner's trophy. Dafuq?
 
My point is Bernie has a tough path, but he will make it out. All the way to the convention we go!

If he is under 10 points, absolutely! It wont be enough to win momentum or to change the victory path of Hillary (imo), but it is nice to see him doing better than what some of us expected.

Still low key praying for meme magic to do its wonders like in Michigan heh.
 
It doesn't really matter if he loses tonight. California is still up for grabs. Once the FBI prosecutes Clinton all 400+ of those delegates will go to Bern and this election is ours. Don't lose faith.
 
If he is under 10 points, absolutely! It wont be enough to win momentum or to change the victory path of Hillary (imo), but it is nice to see him doing better than what some of us expected.

That's my thing. I can't wait to see the results, and see how close he gets.
 
It doesn't really matter if he loses tonight. California is still up for grabs. Once the FBI prosecutes Clinton all 400+ of those delegates will go to Bern and this election is ours. Don't lose faith.
NY was always going to go for Hillary. Bernie's true path is through western caucus states where he builds momentum and wins California.
 
It doesn't really matter if he loses tonight. California is still up for grabs. Once the FBI prosecutes Clinton all 400+ of those delegates will go to Bern and this election is ours. Don't lose faith.

Pretty much. #feelthebern
 
Is this information easily available - How much money has Clinton earned by giving wall street speeches compared to all her other speaking fees she has done. Like what is the %? Is there a breakdown of industry etc., cause Im sure she speaks to unions, teachers, etc, and not just wall street but maybe I'm wrong.

It would be nice to know

According to this CNN source, a little less than 10%. Additionally, her per-speech price tag was the same for both bank and non-bank (so the receipts don't support the theory that the banks were funneling her bribes bundled with her speaking fees).

I asked the same question as you are a couple months ago, and this is the source that I've been basing my answer off of. I've posted it in some heated GAF threads a couple times and no one's disputed it yet, so I generally assume that it's accurate.
 
I hope Clinton wins by a large enough margin she can start ignoring Bernie finally.

This has gone on way too long, she needs to start focusing on the general and ignore the finger wagging old man.
 
It doesn't really matter if he loses tonight. California is still up for grabs. Once the FBI prosecutes Clinton all 400+ of those delegates will go to Bern and this election is ours. Don't lose faith.

I'll pretending you're actually being serious about the possibility that the FBI prosecutes Clinton.

If something like that happens, the issue of superdelegates will be moot. Not even pledge delegates will matter.
 
Half hour for some of the first areas, probably a few hours before most get tallied.



Why are you getting so excited when literally 0 votes have been counted?

Because if these numbers even stay within 1-2% margins, Bernie while not winning NY, will have closed the gap HUGELY, and VERY close to my prediction last week.
 
Results will be more favorable for Clinton as the night goes on as NYC is the last to count their votes. This is as close as it will get for Bernie.

Unless, there's a yuge upset, of course.
 
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