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But the debate poll.

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This. Even if a lot of Sanders supporters are being unreasonable, it makes 0 sense to also be an ass. Just be a good winner cuz we're on the same team.


Nah, I don't like how people are obnoxious and then as soon as the worm turns it's "Be nice to me, you'll need me later". Miss me with that. No one was calling for love across the road when they had that 'momentum' and had won the last 5/6 or whatever.
 
So are all the die hard Bernie supporters gonna not vote or vote for Trump during the presidential elections, now that Bernie is gonna be out of the picture?

Only if they don't actually believe in what they say they believe in.

If they want to keep this movement going, a Democratic President is needed. There's no change that's going to be possible without the Supreme Court.
 
Nice attitude to have about people you absolutely need to win in November.

p.s. Hillary didn't concede in 2008 until June 7. Was she an "entitled little shit" for continuing to run even though there was no real way for her to close the delegate gap?

1.) Yes she was. And the delegate split was FAR closer than now.

2.) Bernie's main fanbase doesn't vote anyway, so your point about "needing" them is hilarious.
 
Kind of surprised Trump has a higher percentage than Clinton even though he has two others in race and not one. Obviously she has way more votes though. Republican vote is much higher compared to other years though when it didn't matter as much.
 
This. Even if a lot of Sanders supporters are being unreasonable, it makes 0 sense to also be an ass. Just be a good winner cuz we're on the same team.

Also, according to polling at this time in 08 there was a higher fraction of Hillary supporters saying they wouldn't support Obama in the general compared to Sanders supporters voting Hillary... so yeah.
 
So are all the die hard Bernie supporters gonna not vote or vote for Trump during the presidential elections, now that Bernie is gonna be out of the picture?

The vast majority of his voters will line-up and vote for her. Emotions are running pretty high right now, but Bernie endorsing her and Warren stumping for her should lend some progressive credibility as time goes on.

(That, and Hillary will benefit from contrasting up against whatever whackadoodle nominee the GOP spits out in Cleveland.)
 
New one, looks like this is how its probably gonna play out for trump. 91 is huge and certainly puts him back on track to getting the majority.

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Salt Per Minute on TYT is approaching critical levels with this woman on Skype, who seems intent on chronicling every mis-step ever taken by Clinton, Clinton's campaign, or anyone who may have supported Clinton.
 
I like to believe a good block of them won't vote at all, and even if they did they are a small number and won't change anything one way or another
I'm inclined to think that a good block of them aren't old enough to vote tbh, at least the crazy ones on reddit.
 
Weaver is on MSNBC discussing delegate math, still seeming to be pinning hopes on California (and insisting that they're doing "very well" in Pennsylvania).
 
I'm a fan of of Bernie but I have nothing against Hillary, I just like him more. I fully expect to be voting for Hillary in November and I'm not upset about that at all. But I don't see why people are so adamant about Bernie having no chance when he's about 250 pledged delegates behind. Hillary needs a bit under 1,000 to clinch; Bernie needs about 1,250. It wouldn't be easy for him to pull it off and it would be a huge uphill climb, but the talk the entire election cycle about Bernie having no chance at anything has rubbed me the wrong way. Sometimes it even feels like people think Hillary is entitled to the nomination.
250 pledged delegates is a massive chasm in the Democratic primary, due to every state allocating pledged delegates proportionally.
 
anyone watching MSNBC right now? Steve Kornacki is trying to show the delegate math to Bernie's campaign manager....he getting the gold in mental gymnastics
 
Are you saying if something like that was to happen, that you wouldn't expect a pardon?

Like I said earlier, there is very little chance to no chance of that happening. I am not sure if he is being salty for saying so, but I agree with him on the pardon bit.

In some weird parallel universe where she gets indicted, her punishment would be less than general petraeus and wouldn't warrant a pardon but sure.
 
Nice attitude to have about people you absolutely need to win in November.

p.s. Hillary didn't concede in 2008 until June 7. Was she an "entitled little shit" for continuing to run even though there was no real way for her to close the delegate gap?

Obama's lead over Hillary was only 1/3 of her current massive lead over Bernie, and yes she was still heavily criticized for not giving up earlier.
 
Bernie and his supporters have a lot to be proud of, but it's time to wind this down
Yep.

And Bernie doesn't have to be president for a movement based upon his aspirations to take hold. If the campaign was more than just the man, but the ideas, and the passion behind them, then people should shift gears, look to the next elections, both local and national, keep the conversation going, and see what opportunities for change can be taken advantage of in a Clinton administration.
 
Clinton county won by Sanders.

As an outsider, I find this hilarious (or Hillaryous?).

Yep.

And Bernie doesn't have to be president for a movement based upon his aspirations to take hold. If the campaign was more than just the man, but the ideas, and the passion behind them, then people should shift gears, look to the next elections, both local and national, keep the conversation going, and see what opportunities for change can be taken advantage of in a Clinton administration.
Absolutely. But "entitled little shits" etc.
 
Ok peeps. I know a lot of Hillary Clinton supporters are happy tonight with good reason, it was an huge win. However let's not pretend she don't need those Sanders supporters in the general election. I don't know if ya'll noticed but voter turn out in the Democratic side is down, while in the GOP side, they are breaking records. Let's not lose focus of the main goal, which is the White House, Supreme Court, and possibly the Senate.
 
Nice attitude to have about people you absolutely need to win in November.

p.s. Hillary didn't concede in 2008 until June 7. Was she an "entitled little shit" for continuing to run even though there was no real way for her to close the delegate gap?

I actually don't have a problem with Sanders continuing to run, but for the record, if you expect people to baby you on the off chance you'll deliberately screw up your own life by voting for Trump when you previously supported Sanders, then frankly you should probably just vote for Trump. He represents the policy-blind self-centered demographic extremely well.
 
She will unite the party, and it will be a blowout in November.

Beautiful result tonight for federalism.

I do look forward to GOP getting crushed.
The reason I supported Clinton over Obama in 08 is because she was more anti Republican than Obama.

Goodnight!

I love how the narrative in the Sanders camp has shifted from "Fuck Killary!" to "Hillary NEEDS us! Don't you forget that!"

Well, that and "I'm voting for Trump!" over on Reddit.

I mean Bernie supporters move now is to try to pull Hillary left. Criticizing them for this is silly and petty.
 
And now Weaver is deferring to polling for November as a justification for why superdelegates should go against pledged delegates and the popular vote...
 
Weaver is a damn ass

I love how Kornacki broke down just how fucking ridiculous and dangerous it is for Sanders to waste time and try to flip superdelegates instead of rallying behind Hillary.
 
I love how the narrative in the Sanders camp has shifted from "Fuck Killary!" to "Hillary NEEDS us! Don't you forget that!"

Well, that and "I'm voting for Trump!" over on Reddit.
 
Anything over 80 delegates would have been a decent night for Trump. The closer to 90 the better for him obviously. Cruz looks to get 0 and is mathematically eliminated for the first ballot.

Trump should be repeating everyday that his opponents are eliminated yet refuse to drop out.
 
Massive win for Clinton !

If she can unite the D party, she could easily win the GE.

Our biggest hope is that Cruz is her opposition rather than Trump. Clinton will be a strong candidate, but has huge blind spots when it comes to young people and independent voters.
 
Why have we never given Sanders a chance?

Because he's never been in the lead... and he's shown zero signs of being capable of closing the gap let along over taking Clinton.

That's why.
 
Jesus, even when Hilary destroys in a huge state Gaf still gets means about it.

At this point, Bernie is out. There's no chance of coming back. If there was any question before, it's gone now. If you think Bernie or his fans are embarrassing themselves, then just let them be and enjoy your victory. Pouring salt in the wound helps no one.

Reading these threads is continuously disheartening, and I'd hoped that would decrease as the gap widened.
 
I'm a fan of of Bernie but I have nothing against Hillary, I just like him more. I fully expect to be voting for Hillary in November and I'm not upset about that at all. But I don't see why people are so adamant about Bernie having no chance when he's about 250 pledged delegates behind. Hillary needs a bit under 1,000 to clinch; Bernie needs about 1,250. It wouldn't be easy for him to pull it off and it would be a huge uphill climb, but the talk the entire election cycle about Bernie having no chance at anything has rubbed me the wrong way. Sometimes it even feels like people think Hillary is entitled to the nomination.

It's more the fact that the way democratic primaries works means it's very difficult to make up 100 delagates much less 200 or 250, so people say he has statistically no chance which is true.I don't think it's malice for the most part.
 
250 pledged delegates is a massive chasm in the Democratic primary, due to every state allocating pledged delegates proportionally.

(Not Hillary) Sanders needs something around 57% or 58% of the remaining delegates. Honestly I really don't think Sanders will be too far behind whenever Hillary reaches the number to clinch the nomination.

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It's more the fact that the way democratic primaries works means it's very difficult to make up 100 delagates much less 200 or 250, so people say he has statistically no chance which is true.I don't think it's malice for the most part.

As far as delegate numbers, no it's not. But there's always been some reason that Bernie has zero chance of making it, right from when he started running and it just gets kind of old.
 
Ok peeps. I know a lot of Hillary Clinton supporters are happy tonight with good reason, it was an huge win. However let's not pretend she don't need those Sanders supporters in the general election. I don't know if ya'll noticed but voter turn out in the Democratic side is down, while in the GOP side, they are breaking records. Let's not lose focus of the main goal, which is the White House, Supreme Court, and possibly the Senate.

Primary turnout doesn't have much effect on general performance. If anything, it's counterindicative. Primary turnout indicates a contentious primary. For example Dukakis set primary turnout records because he and Jesse Jackson went toe to toe.
 
Hillary needs something around 57% or 58% of the remaining delegates. Honestly I really don't think Sanders will be too far behind whenever Hillary reaches the number to clinch the nomination.

define "too far behind"

because in all likelihood, the final margin's gonna be ~350-400 with clinton only 160-200 short of 2383 with pledged alone
 
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