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[Hasney]

Why are devs actually grumbling? Does someone not get paid for the extra work? I know that if my bosses wanted extra reports run I wouldn't be happy about it but I would suck it up and do my fucking job. The only people who should be grumbling about this are the people who are paying for the hours to implement it. They should only be grumbling if it is going to be a net loss. Indy devs is the only case where I see someone possibly getting fucked over on this. I am sure Sony can offer some support in these cases.

This site is very pro dev and while that can great, it also evokes some of the response this topic has received. Fear mongering for our poor indentured devs. If anything this should create jobs for people with the implementation and testing.

I remain skeptical about just how much work a different performance profile is going to be. For most multi-plats the game has to scale to PC so it isn't going to require new asset creation or any truely expensive work.

It's almost always unpaid and just totally expected for you to just do an 80 hour week when it comes to the crunch. I could easily see developers at most levels not liking this as it will mean more crunch and for the people managing the budgets, possibly more resource if the people you already have have literally nothing left to give.

But they'll only hire the bare minimum of people working another 80 hour week as temps to get through the extra NEO version or whatever, so more money spent and the existing crew still has to pull the same amount of shit.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

The comparison is in people viewing them as bad models for console gaming going forward. DRM is obviously far worse, but the reaction is comparable in the sense that people are quite vocal in not wanting either to happen.

They're not comparable at all. Stop it.

 

[Scarfo]

As much as the internet complains about this...the reality is, it's gonna sell like crazy. People love new tech. People love upgrades. True, this was done in an strange way, but it's gonna sell like crazy regardless.

 

[Audioboxer]

As much as the internet complains about this...the reality is, it's gonna sell like crazy. People love new tech. People love upgrades. True, this was done in an strange way, but it's gonna sell like crazy regardless.

Probably, but it's never been done before so no camp really knows till it's out and we get some stats.

I don't doubt though many complaining will jump on it, as the "upset" at someone else experiencing something prettier than you will tip wallets. Or tip parents wallets if it's COD/BF kids. Who knows, the kids seem to be making decent YouTube bux these days with shitty videos.

Heck for Kinda Funny to keep doing their job they'll need a Neo anyway. Colin will be getting one one way or another

 

[Eolz]

Why are devs actually grumbling? Does someone not get paid for the extra work? I know that if my bosses wanted extra reports run I wouldn't be happy about it but I would suck it up and do my fucking job. The only people who should be grumbling about this are the people who are paying for the hours to implement it. They should only be grumbling if it is going to be a net loss. Indy devs is the only case where I see someone possibly getting fucked over on this. I am sure Sony can offer some support in these cases.

This site is very pro dev and while that can great, it also evokes some of the response this topic has received. Fear mongering for our poor indentured devs. If anything this should create jobs for people with the implementation and testing.

I remain skeptical about just how much work a different performance profile is going to be. For most multi-plats the game has to scale to PC so it isn't going to require new asset creation or any truely expensive work.

Is that a joke post?

 

[Docpan]

Is it possible at this point to boost specs further?

Is it near finalized or finalized. It's not too late.....

 

[ninjablade]

Why are devs actually grumbling? Does someone not get paid for the extra work? I know that if my bosses wanted extra reports run I wouldn't be happy about it but I would suck it up and do my fucking job. The only people who should be grumbling about this are the people who are paying for the hours to implement it. They should only be grumbling if it is going to be a net loss. Indy devs is the only case where I see someone possibly getting fucked over on this. I am sure Sony can offer some support in these cases.

This site is very pro dev and while that can great, it also evokes some of the response this topic has received. Fear mongering for our poor indentured devs. If anything this should create jobs for people with the implementation and testing.

I remain skeptical about just how much work a different performance profile is going to be. For most multi-plats the game has to scale to PC so it isn't going to require new asset creation or any truely expensive work.

I agree with you here, if devs can take the time to optimize for amd gpu's on pc, then they should have no problem doing it on PS4K and putting more effort cause there game will sell 100x more.

 

[Mediking]

As much as the internet complains about this...the reality is, it's gonna sell like crazy. People love new tech. People love upgrades. True, this was done in an strange way, but it's gonna sell like crazy regardless.

Only the tech guys and diehard Sony guys and even the people who haven't even bought a PS4 yet will buy a PS4K. Numbers will prolly be really high in the beginning but who knows how fast that console will be selling a few months later.

And do you really think the casuals aka a large number of PS4 owners will care about a PS4K? They don't care.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Is that a joke post?

Well its a fair question to ask, how much effort is it really to lock a game to a specific resolution or framerate. Since we know there is no pressure on devs besides parity with PS4 in framerate and supposedly 1080p res, it should be fairly simple, since the 4K will run the base PS4 code better by default.

Bug testing would probably be the most work

Is it possible at this point to boost specs further?

Is it near finalized or finalized. It's not too late.....

The bigger the boost now the longer you have to wait till PS5. People need to get it into their heads that this is a stop gap. Its not supposed to be a big jump, nor is it supposed to cost that much money for them to develop, hence keeping most of the same parts while keeping the cost down to launch PS4 levels.

 

[ninjablade]

Well its a fair question to ask, how much effort is it really to lock a game to a specific resolution or framerate. Since we know there is no pressure on devs besides parity with PS4 in framerate and supposedly 1080p res, it should be fairly simple, since the 4K will run the base PS4 code better by default.

Bug testing would probably be the most work



The bigger the boost now the longer you have to wait till PS5.

Yup this and finding the right graphics/fps settings they want to ship the game with.

 

[Wishmaster92]

As much as the internet complains about this...the reality is, it's gonna sell like crazy. People love new tech. People love upgrades. True, this was done in an strange way, but it's gonna sell like crazy regardless.

Top that with an uhd drive and it's gonna sell twice as much considering you're getting an INSANE value. It'll be one of the cheapest 4K blu Ray players

 

[Hahs]

Obviously not much to go on - except Moriarty's word.

And his source - whoever the fuck that is, said: 'most developers',

which seems quite absurd; unless his source works for sony, who definitely WOULD know every dev they've sent kits to.

The quote itself could have just as well been spoken as a common exaggeration - something we all do for emphasis (i.e., "I beat that game a million times"), perhaps was taken out of context.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Where was all the concern for developers when the PS3 launched with an alien architecture? A lot of what I read at the time was that the PS3 had no games and sometimes that those games that had issues was due to "lazy devs".

Now, working on x86, this seemingly relatively small additional burden (in comparison something like the PS3) is when people rise up?

It's fantastic that we have this revitalized love and respect for devs, but it seems awfully convenient that the timing for it happens to correspond to enforcing the idea that this is a bad thing.

Net positive I guess. Really hope this empathy lasts.

 

[Audioboxer]

Where was all the concern for developers when the PS3 launched with an alien architecture? A lot of what I read at the time was that the PS3 had no games and sometimes that those games that had issues was due to "lazy devs".

Now, working on x86, this seemingly relatively small additional burden (in comparison something like the PS3) is when people rise up?

It's fantastic that we have this revitalized love and respect for devs, but it seems awfully convenient that the timing for it happens to correspond to enforcing the idea that this is a bad thing.

Net positive I guess. Really hope this empathy lasts.

Well there was a lot of rage about CELL, and it was constant ~ From devs and gamers alike.

The lazy dev argument though is usually just wheeled out when it fits your narrative. Don't doubt some who used it back when CELL was around, are now defending devs against it in this scenario. Fact is nothing is this black and white. Except CELL maybe, lol. It was a nightmare. Devs still survived it though, this should be a walk in the park in comparison.

 

[Jacksinthe]

That, and the more you move towards an all-digital future (which we're still quite a ways from), the more it feels important that the games you buy on a given store function with the main product(s) that link to that store. As we've all gotten more used to not even thinking of app support as "backwards compatibility", it feels that much more strange to pick up a new iPhone or iPad or Android device and have everything you bought with a previous device work fine, but a new console? Nope, gotta start that library over again.

Of course, PS4 titles in some cases have had crossbuy, and MS eventually added BC (though it's still limited). Going forward, I feel like we have to have a model where if I upgrade to a PS5 in a hypothetical future, my PS4 games (at least the ones purchased digitally) will all come over and play just fine on it.

I hope, man. I think we are at a point now where hardware architecture is fairly solid and just enough that we don't need exotic tech like we used to have. I think it's better for the developer and consumer to use an iterative design with direct compatibility across the board.

The mobile market drove home the importance of convenience with new hardware running old apps no problem and THAT, I feel, is the expectation moving forward. I think many people who bemoan iterative consoles are clinging to how things used to be done and calling it "expectation" when it should be called "old hat". We are past that style of technology upgrade path for a long time. The console biz needs to step it up and now is a good time, IMO.

If full BC remains a thing I can see traditional generations going the way of the bird and being replaced with ConsoleName: IterativeName instead of the typical generations we are used to. This will allow the industry to move forward a bit faster in the console space and stagnate less. If price point and compatibility are good - there's no issue, IMO.

Even a guy like me who loves new shiny tech wont feel forced to upgrade.

At least this is how I read this change. I could easily be wrong if PS5 lacks compatibility, although it makes little business sense to continue that path in today's tech landscape.

All of this is just my opinion, of course. I feel it is safe enough to not worry about, at this point. Xbox 1.5 and PS4.5 are fine if they stick with a now tech-traditional path.

 

[Scarfo]

Top that with an uhd drive and it's gonna sell twice as much considering you're getting an INSANE value. It'll be one of the cheapest 4K blu Ray players

Yelp. I don't own an 4Ktv, but I will definitely get one now.....now meaning next year. lol

Only the tech guys and diehard Sony guys and even the people who haven't even bought a PS4 yet will buy a PS4K. Numbers will prolly be really high in the beginning but who knows how fast that console will be selling a few months later.

And do you really think the casuals aka a large number of PS4 owners will care about a PS4K? They don't care.

I think Sony will secretly phase out the current PS4 for the Neo, since they're at the same price.

Probably, but it's never been done before so no camp really knows till it's out and we get some stats.

I don't doubt though many complaining will jump on it, as the "upset" at someone else experiencing something prettier than you will tip wallets. Or tip parents wallets if it's COD/BF kids. Who knows, the kids seem to be making decent YouTube bux these days with shitty videos.

Heck for Kinda Funny to keep doing their job they'll need a Neo anyway. Colin will be getting one one way or another

I know some folks don't like to compare this to our smart phone spending habits, but...when an new $600 iPhone or Droid drops (practically every 2 years) , people buy them in droves faithfully.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Well there was a lot of rage about CELL, and it was constant ~ From devs and gamers alike.

The lazy dev argument though is usually just wheeled out when it fits your narrative. Don't doubt some who used it back when CELL was around, are now defending devs against it in this scenario.

Way of the world I guess. That one poster was right, this is like a politics thread lol.

 

[Audioboxer]

Way of the world I guess. That one poster was right, this is like a politics thread lol.

True. Everyone wants politics to be a calm stream flowing in the direction you want it to, but in reality it's a big fat duck splashing water all over the place.

 

[ArtHands]

Obviously not much to go on - except Moriarty's word.

And his source - whoever the fuck that is, said: 'most developers',

which seems quite absurd; unless his source works for sony, who definitely WOULD know every dev they've sent kits to.

The quote itself could have just as well been spoken as a common exaggeration - something we all do for emphasis (i.e., "I beat that game a million times"), perhaps was taken out of context.

I am not really buying what he says too. Feels like he's worrying as a PS4 consumer that he will need to buy a new console, rather than the Playstation's future.

 

[ninjablade]

Where was all the concern for developers when the PS3 launched with an alien architecture? A lot of what I read at the time was that the PS3 had no games and sometimes that those games that had issues was due to "lazy devs".

Now, working on x86, this seemingly relatively small additional burden (in comparison something like the PS3) is when people rise up?

It's fantastic that we have this revitalized love and respect for devs, but it seems awfully convenient that the timing for it happens to correspond to enforcing the idea that this is a bad thing.

Net positive I guess. Really hope this empathy lasts.

You really believe this is about empathy for devs, it's mostly a mental complex for most people complaining here, a console is a box that plays games, if your happy with yours and are fully satisfied stick with if you want better tech get a ps4k, I just can't believe grown ups are actually complaining about a higher spec playstation 4 after 3 years, that in reality won't effect them in anyway except in there minds cause there is a better version of a console they own.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Way of the world I guess. That one poster was right, this is like a politics thread lol.

True, I rather hear Sony's pitch and argument before looking like a fool and theorizing doomsday scenerios. It sort of reminds me of the whole DS3 PC fiasco a lot of folks ended up looking like fools.. So yeah I'm cool at the moment with what Sony is doing but that could change if they mess up at E3 which I doubt.

Let's just wait and see.

 

[kyser73]

You really believe this is about empathy for devs, it's mostly a mental complex for most people complaining here, a console is a box that plays games, if your happy with yours and are fully satisfied stick with if you want better tech get a ps4k, I just can't believe grown ups are actually complaining about a higher spec playstation 4 after 3 years, that in reality won't effect them in anyway except in there minds cause there is a better version of a console they own.

That's because a lot of them aren't adults with disposable income, and aren't looking forward to a tricky conversation with their parents asking them for $399 for a new console quite so soon...

Spoiler

sort of /s

 

[Movalpolos]

Sounds like a bogus tweet to fit his bias. I'm sure there are many in the industry who are equally excited to keep consoles more up to date with fast changing technology.

Absolutely.

 

[AnthonypUK]

i don't know how to do the fancy embedding stuff.

So theres one Dev whose okay with it.

@AbsintheGames
@notaxation Your "trusted source" is wrong.

 

[Movalpolos]

Oh what a crock of shit

.

 

[RE_Player]

I love how people are declaring that this will not impact current PS4 owners and smartphones/tablets do this all the time. My older iPad can't run or in some cases do things the newer iPad can do. Same with the iPhone. Do we honestly expect Sony to magically get this iterative console update thing right?

Mark my words there will be games that come out on PS4 that have horrible frame rate on the base PS4 with much better performance on the Neo. The excuses then will be "Well you should have upgraded".

We better hope they don't adopt a smartphone/tablet release model because if they do by the third and fourth updated hardware the base PS4 will be like the original iPad, useless.

 

[ninjablade]

That's because a lot of them aren't adults with disposable income, and aren't looking forward to a tricky conversation with their parents asking them for $399 for a new console quite so soon...

Spoiler

sort of /s

Ok I can see where they're coming from, but even then it's pretty easy to get 250$ for your ps4 now, so it's not that bad if they really must upgrade.

 

[ninjablade]

I love how people are declaring that this will not impact current PS4 owners and smartphones/tablets do this all the time. My older iPad can't run or in some cases do things the newer iPad can do. Same with the iPhone. Do we honestly expect Sony to magically get this iterative console update thing right?

Mark my words there will be games that come out on PS4 that have horrible frame rate on the base PS4 with much better performance on the Neo. The excuses then will be "Well you should have upgraded".

We better hope they don't adopt a smartphone/tablet release model because if they do by the third and fourth updated hardware the base PS4 will be like the original iPad, useless.

There are already games that do this, I'm sure just cause 3, evil within, witcher 3, and fall out 4 would have had much better performance with more power, this is really all up to the developers. Remember most games already lead on pc, and are down scaled to ps4, just look at the new final Fantasy.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I love how people are declaring that this will not impact current PS4 owners and smartphones/tablets do this all the time. My older iPad can't run or in some cases do things the newer iPad can do. Same with the iPhone. Do we honestly expect Sony to magically get this iterative console update thing right?

Mark my words there will be games that come out on PS4 that have horrible frame rate on the base PS4 with much better performance on the Neo. The excuses then will be "Well you should have upgraded".

We better hope they don't adopt a smartphone/tablet release model because if they do by the third and fourth updated hardware the base PS4 will be like the original iPad, useless.

Number one, you are fear mongering about a thing that has not happened yet and according to the documents is expressly forbidden.

Number two, you are expecting there to be no floor to the development pipeline going forward, when there is a floor in PS4. Nobody is expecting them to keep PS4 afloat indefinitely, but by that time PS5 will be around and the cycle will continue again.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I love how people are declaring that this will not impact current PS4 owners and smartphones/tablets do this all the time. My older iPad can't run or in some cases do things the newer iPad can do. Same with the iPhone. Do we honestly expect Sony to magically get this iterative console update thing right?

Mark my words there will be games that come out on PS4 that have horrible frame rate on the base PS4 with much better performance on the Neo. The excuses then will be "Well you should have upgraded".

We better hope they don't adopt a smartphone/tablet release model because if they do by the third and fourth updated hardware the base PS4 will be like the original iPad, useless.

That will happen with or with out neo .
When this stuff happen people will blame it on neo instead of the machine just showing it's age .
We have games with all those problems now and as time goes on devs push more and more .

 

[Audioboxer]

i don't know how to do the fancy embedding stuff.

So theres one Dev whose okay with it.

@AbsintheGames
@notaxation Your "trusted source" is wrong.

Well I think we can legitimately say some devs will have some grumbles about more red tape. However taking Colin's statement which is vague as it is and applying it to all devs, or a lot of devs, or even a few devs is a complete guessing game.

 

[Movalpolos]

I think we should pay attention to one of the biggest PlayStation advocates in the field without calling his statement bullshit.

His statement (or that of his "source") is absolute bullshit. It's embarrassing that this thread has continued without Colin actually going into further detail.

He's probably looking for devs that are upset with it rather than looking for devs that are okay with it. There's a big difference.

 

[kyser73]

I love how people are declaring that this will not impact current PS4 owners and smartphones/tablets do this all the time. My older iPad can't run or in some cases do things the newer iPad can do. Same with the iPhone. Do we honestly expect Sony to magically get this iterative console update thing right?

Mark my words there will be games that come out on PS4 that have horrible frame rate on the base PS4 with much better performance on the Neo. The excuses then will be "Well you should have upgraded".

We better hope they don't adopt a smartphone/tablet release model because if they do by the third and fourth updated hardware the base PS4 will be like the original iPad, useless.

Yeah, but so long as that time comes at the 5-6 year point in the OG's lifespan at a point most people will be thinking 'time to change up' does that matter?

Because come on - it isn't like devs aren't going to push the hardware the way they did last gen, but they are more likely to get there quicker this time around.

 

[CosmicQueso]

True. Everyone wants politics to be a calm stream flowing in the direction you want it to, but in reality it's a big fat duck splashing water all over the place.

In olden times, candidates would offer free beers for votes. Won a lot of elections way back when.

Sony can do the same thing here. But instead of beer, Knack.

Everyone wins.

 

[Audioboxer]

In olden times, candidates would offer free beers for votes. Won a lot of elections way back when.

Sony can do the same thing here. But instead of beer, Knack.

Everyone wins.

lol.

Knack PS+ for E3, everyone calms the fuck down and accepts this. The power of Knack.

 

[Movalpolos]

So will Colin tell us today how many devs his "source" spoke with?
Or will he fess up about his source being wrong?

 

[NoctisVsStar]

So will Colin tell us today how many devs his "source" spoke with?
Or will he fess up about his source being wrong?

You should know Colin by now lol

 

[Audioboxer]

So will Colin tell us today how many devs his "source" spoke with?
Or will he fess up about his source being wrong?

He's not going to do that, just sit back and wait and see if any other devs go public to support his narrative/source. Which isn't happening until Sony at least actually announce something, so the circus can continue to feed off of Colins remarks till E3 at the earliest. This topic might have hit 100 pages by then lol.

 

[Movalpolos]

You should know Colin by now lol

This doesn't give him a pass to just say whatever the fuck he wants.
He has a responsibility to be accurate.

He's not going to do that, just sit back and wait and see if any other devs go public to support his narrative/source. Which isn't happening until Sony at least actually announce something, so the circus can continue to feed off of Colins remarks at least till E3.

Then I guess he has no problem with his reputation going even further down the hole.

 

[Kael]

Wouldn't this be just like creating the pc version but all you are doing is just locking two different settings to each machine?

 

[CosmicQueso]

i don't know how to do the fancy embedding stuff.

So theres one Dev whose okay with it.

@AbsintheGames
@notaxation Your "trusted source" is wrong.

Alright.

Who here is in charge of letting Absinthe know how much extra work and hardship all this means?!?

Clearly they don't understand the gravity of this decision and how time consuming and expensive it'll be!!

 

[Audioboxer]

This doesn't give him a pass to just say whatever the fuck he wants.
He has a responsibility to be accurate.

Which in Colin's defence right now no one can disprove him. Because his "most" remark can simply boil down to the 5 devs he has been able to source. I support more clarification, don't get me wrong, but he's got his bases pretty airtight as things stand to explain a vague remark with ease (if he needs to eventually).

 

[NoctisVsStar]

This doesn't give him a pass to just say whatever the fuck he wants.
He has a responsibility to be accurate.

Oh trust me I could careless, im just saying based on his persona that won't happen. I'll give him this though I wouldn't doubt that a few aired their displeasure or concerns about this extra work. But to the degree that "most devs" are not happy is hyperbole. He got his sources so I won't dismiss entirely his comment since Colin ain't no schmuck.

 

[Movalpolos]

Oh trust me I could careless, im just saying based on his persona that won't happen. I'll give him this though I wouldn't doubt that a few aired their displeasure or concerns about this extra work. But to the degree that "most devs" are not happy is hyperbole. He got his sources so I won't dismiss entirely his comment.

One "source". And how do we know that source isn't just Shinobi?

 

[Audioboxer]

One "source". And how do we know that source isn't just Shinobi?

It doesn't really matter who the source is, or if the source is even real. He has free reign in a pre-Sony announcement world. Devs cannot go all public right now, as NDAs and Sony goodwill suicide. Right now a "game of sources" is all anyone can have, and they can have it relatively unchecked, especially if they are someone who could get sources (journo/big public figure).

I haven't even been able to trick the Sony faithful (PR/marketing folks on Twitter) into even liking or acknowledging my Neo tweets Pretty certain they do not want a GAF topic "Sony staff member likes a PS Neo fan Tweet ~ PS Neo real".

 

[NoctisVsStar]

One "source". And how do we know that source isn't just Shinobi?

It's a source regardless and why would he out his source anyway? I like to believe he didn't just saw shinobi tweet lol I ain't a fan of his or Greg for that matter I do think there's some truth to it but IMO he's a exaggerating a bit.

 

[Moneal]

Well, this is just about the most asinine thing I've read in this thread.

Consumers don't answer to manufacturers, manufacturers answer to consumers. When we were dissatisfied with Sony in 2006, we didn't buy their console and they hemorrhaged market-share. When we were unhappy with Microsoft's DRM and media focused Xbox One, they hemorrhaged marketshare and have spent the last few years trying to correct their mistake.

If consumers are unhappy with PS4 Neo, they will not adopt it at the rates Sony wants or needs, and they will rethink iterative console hardware. Simple as that. Whether or not people are unhappy enough for this to happen is anyone's guess - but the response has not been good.

As for this being the "way the industry is going", there are three hardware companies. The president of Microsoft Games Studios said he doesn't like the 1.5 concept. Rumors that it may exist are unsubstantiated and there's nothing real out there about it. Nintendo probably isn't doing it.

Who besides Sony is moving in this direction?

Spencer said he would rather see a larger jump in that interview. He also spoke on iterative xbox going forward earlier in that same month. He speaks out both sides of his mouth on other issues(parity clause for one).

 

[Movalpolos]

It doesn't really matter who the source is, or if the source is even real. He has free reign in a pre-Sony announcement world. Devs cannot go all public right now, as NDAs and Sony goodwill suicide. I haven't even been able to trick the Sony faithful (PR/marketing folks on Twitter) into even liking or acknowledging my Neo tweets

That is exactly the problem. He needs to be held accountable for his info.
I seriously hope this all blows up in his face.

I personally will hold him to his comment until he clarifies it while other people may just sweep it under the rug.

 

[Audioboxer]

That is exactly the problem. He needs to be held accountable for his info.
I seriously hope this all blows up in his face.

I personally will hold him to his comment until he clarifies it while other people may just sweep it under the rug.

Well he will eventually, as will crow be getting dished out to some of the 720p future fanatics and others alike (maybe even some of the pro-Neo supports, if it flops). Like politics though, it's going to be a waiting game for all parties. Nothing can really be done right now, other than take some encouragement from some of the GAF insiders saying a little. Most of whom have stepped out to say "fucking nonsense" to Colin/GAF members panicking.

 

[FyreWulff]

Why are devs actually grumbling? Does someone not get paid for the extra work? I know that if my bosses wanted extra reports run I wouldn't be happy about it but I would suck it up and do my fucking job. The only people who should be grumbling about this are the people who are paying for the hours to implement it. They should only be grumbling if it is going to be a net loss. Indy devs is the only case where I see someone possibly getting fucked over on this. I am sure Sony can offer some support in these cases.

This site is very pro dev and while that can great, it also evokes some of the response this topic has received. Fear mongering for our poor indentured devs. If anything this should create jobs for people with the implementation and testing.

I remain skeptical about just how much work a different performance profile is going to be. For most multi-plats the game has to scale to PC so it isn't going to require new asset creation or any truely expensive work.

you may be surprised to know but developers are people with different opinions and shit

as such, we totally have the right to not like this shit