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Persona 5 getting an announcement on May 5, 2016

DrunkShogun said:
Totally agree. Don't mind people praying and hoping but I hope they all consider it to be unlikely. Winter is what I'm expecting with the potential for a march release if we are really unlucky.
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4-5 months seems to be the expected norm for localizations of this size.
 
Zolo said:
4-5 months seems to be the expected norm for localizations of this size.
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I don't think a WW release is happening, but I think it will be a fairly quick turn around. Despite John Hardin's famous 2015 saga, I have to believe localization work started at or before then. If it hadn't, and he was still being told to say 2015 and going out of his way to do it, that's outrageous.

It's very much wishful thinking, but I think 2-3 months is gonna be it.
 
Shin Megami Tensei IV (The Original) only took two months to get localized after the Japanese release. I'm optimistic that we'll get Persona 5 fairly quickly. I know their handling of it hasn't been the best, but Atlus is certainly aware that this is their biggest game ever and they need to get it out to everyone in a timely fashion.
 
sense said:
if sega/atlus is smart, they would do a worldwide release because i believe the series is primed to go big this time around like a final fantasy or souls game. Sony would be smart to communicate with them and do a bloodborne type promotion/release as well.
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Totally agreed. This is how I've felt about Persona 5 for a while now, that it could be the entry to launch the franchise into the big time. Definitely not on the scale of something like FFVII and what that did for Final Fantasy as a whole, but I think it could be prolific enough to shift the Persona series beyond the niche market it has catered to before.

A worldwide release should be a top priority for Sega/Atlus, in the best interest of their IP, but they won't do it.
 
Zukkoyaki said:
Shin Megami Tensei IV (The Original) only took two months to get localized after the Japanese release. I'm optimistic that we'll get it fairly quickly.
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Persona 4 Arena only took 2 weeks, and Devil Survivor: Overclocked was released in NA 1 week ahead of Japan. They were just different circumstances + coincidences.

Two months sounds about right for Persona 5, though.

Acquiescence said:
Totally agreed. This is how I've felt about Persona 5 for a while now, that it could be the entry to launch the franchise into the big time. Definitely not on the scale of something like FFVII and what that did for Final Fantasy as a whole, but I think it could be prolific enough to shift the Persona series beyond the niche market it has catered to before.

A worldwide release should be a top priority for Sega/Atlus, in the best interest of their IP, but they won't do it.
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Yeah.
FluxWaveZ said:
Why do we have to keep underselling Persona 5? Is the game's first preview trailer almost at 3 million views on Youtube for nothing? People know what Persona is now. Again, reactions when the name "Persona" was uttered at the PlayStation Experience 2014 keynote: https://youtu.be/vlRZ2UxAe0E?t=49m6s

It's not this little niche thing anymore, even if it isn't "mainstream." Its presence has grown significantly in the West over time.

My thoughts have always been Greg Miller's: https://youtu.be/54sH5u6xqS8?t=15m30s
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Zukkoyaki said:
Shin Megami Tensei IV (The Original) only took two months to get localized after the Japanese release. I'm optimistic that we'll get Persona 5 fairly quickly. I know their handling of it hasn't been the best, but Atlus is certainly aware that this is their biggest game ever and they need to get it out to everyone in a timely fashion.
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Yep. Everyone seems to forget this. P5 is definitely an even higher profile release with more riding on it. Can't imagine it being any different unless something goes critically wrong.
 
QuackkAttack said:
I don't think a WW release is happening, but I think it will be a fairly quick turn around. Despite John Hardin's famous 2015 saga, I have to believe localization work started at or before then. If it hadn't, and he was still being told to say 2015 and going out of his way to do it, that's outrageous.

It's very much wishful thinking, but I think 2-3 months is gonna be it.
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Wasn't there a quote last year(like in September maybe?) from someone in Atlus USA that translating had already started? If that's the case, then it's totally believeable it will be a quick turn around.
 
Philippo said:
August in Japan, Late November/December in US, Spring in EU (might even be Multi5 for the first time?).
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It's not going to be Multi 5. They don't even care about the european market, they are not going to bother localizing it. At best I would expect a French/German localization, but I would be very surprised if this ends up being Multi 5.
 
Inorigo said:
Yep. Everyone seems to forget this. P5 is definitely an even higher profile release with more riding on it. Can't imagine it being any different unless something goes critically wrong.
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There's a combination of being precautious & past performance in localising. The general expectation is 2-3 months but there's always a chance they value it a lot more so we get it early or not so much and we end up getting it a few months later than expected.
 
UmbraeCruxis said:
Wasn't there a quote last year(like in September maybe?) from someone in Atlus USA that translating had already started? If that's the case, then it's totally believeable it will be a quick turn around.
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Translating could theoretically have begun as soon as the script was done. Doesn't mean anything if they can't start implementing the translation into the game, though.

But yeah, translation's almost assuredly begun, it's just a matter of when.
 
DrunkShogun said:
There's a combination of being precautious & past performance in localising. The general expectation is 2-3 months but there's always a chance they value it a lot more so we get it early or not so much and we end up getting it a few months later than expected.
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Maybe.

I don't expect them to shy away from November though. What competition do they even have launching then? Everyone that wants Persona now will want it whenever it hits and word of mouth will carry it from there. They're already not going to woo players away from the big holiday shooters or whatever.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
No.
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Squishy3 said:
Translating could theoretically have begun as soon as the script was done. Doesn't mean anything if they can't start implementing the translation into the game, though.

But yeah, translation's almost assuredly begun, it's just a matter of when.
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I thought there was a quote that implied that whole process had begun long ago, but that was likely some gaffer's opinion I read back then when 2015 was still being pushed by Atlus USA. I'm going to be on the boat that they have been going through the localizing process since sometime last year considering the push for 2015.
 
UmbraeCruxis said:
I thought there was a quote that implied that whole process had begun long ago, but that was likely some gaffer's opinion I read back then when 2015 was still being pushed by Atlus USA. I'm going to be on the boat that they have been going through the localizing process since sometime last year considering the push for 2015.
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Your right about them working at an earlier date and aiming for 2015. Only question now is whether they have reach the stage to release the game. I'm wary because they've always separate Na and Japan release date so makes me feel they weren't aiming for a worldwide release date. Might have changed which I happily welcome.
 
I'd guess the biggest factor at this point would be if changes that have to be programmed in has been worked on the Japanese side which would be required rather than if (almost) everything's been translated at this point.
 
Zolo said:
I'd guess the biggest factor at this point would be if changes that have to be programmed in has been worked on the Japanese side which would be required rather than if (almost) everything's been translated at this point.
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Based on their interview, the delay should have been for "tuning up the gameplay." Granted, 9+ months seems like a decent while for what sounds like a lot for what sounds like something relatively small. If they're to be believed though, the script and stuff was probably finished a while ago.
 
With the whole NIS/atlus, even if he us gets this One before end of year, i encouraged the mods to change my title from member to "the unbeliever" should the game manage to get in europe before the end of 2016.
You heard me neogaf mod :p
 
witchedwiz said:
With the whole NIS/atlus, even if he us gets this One before end of year, i encouraged the mods to change my title from member to "the unbeliever" should the game manage to get in europe before the end of 2016.
You heard me neogaf mod :p
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...Sorry, but is there anyone here who believes Europe is getting the game this year?
 
witchedwiz said:
With the whole NIS/atlus, even if he us gets this One before end of year, i encouraged the mods to change my title from member to "the unbeliever" should the game manage to get in europe before the end of 2016.
You heard me neogaf mod :p
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This is the safest bet I've ever seen.
 
Inorigo said:
Maybe.

I don't expect them to shy away from November though. What competition do they even have launching then? Everyone that wants Persona now will want it whenever it hits and word of mouth will carry it from there. They're already not going to woo players away from the big holiday shooters or whatever.
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November would actually be kind of nice, it's certainly bound to be a busy month for games but not for JRPGs and it actually puts some distance between itself and FFXV which gives it a little more room to breath.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
Other than this (which is outdated, I suppose):

There's also the fact that we do not know it'll have a WW release between Japan and NA. Considering this, a delayed release between regions is objectively the more reasonable thought, going by precedent and context.

Persona 5 isn't being co-marketed between both regions, as WW release games do. Japan gets news and only months later is there an English equivalent. The PV03 trailer hasn't even been uploaded on Atlus USA's channel yet.

Let's say that P5 is revealed to be a late August/early September release in Japan on May 5th. That's about 4 months of promotional lead-up. This is only going to be a Japanese-centric event, however, so presumably NA will get its equivalent at E3, giving less time for English marketing if they were to release simultaneously.

Then we consider the fact that SMT IV: Apocalypse is set to be released in Summer 2016, likely September. They won't be releasing SMT IV: Apocalypse and Persona 5 alongside each other.
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How were P4 Arena and SMT IV marketed considering their WW/close to WW releases? I don't remember.
 
Soriku said:
How were P4 Arena and SMT IV marketed considering their WW/close to WW releases? I don't remember.
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Good question, I hadn't actually thought of that. For P4A (which is a bit weird since that was an arcade game first):

1. [Japan] P4A console release announced on August 31, 2011 (for Summer 2012).
2. [NA] P4A console release announced on February 21, 2012 (for Summer 2012).
3. [Japan] P4A console release date announced on April 18, 2012.
4. [NA] P4A console release date announced on June 5, 2012.

Marketing for the console versions for both regions pretty much kicked off when the console release date was set, so April in Japan and at E3 for North America. I suppose that's about a 2-month delay, to then have the games release at around the same time.

I'd have to look into SMT IV; I guess I'll edit this post with a similar timeline.

1. [Japan] Game release announced on May 30, 2012.
2. [Japan] Release date set for May 23, 2012 on February 19, 2013.
3. [NA} Game release announced for Summer 2013 on April 2, 2013.
4. [NA] Release date set for July 16 on April 17, 2013.

Marketing really started in March 2013 in Japan, and in May 2013 for the English version, so a couple of weeks after the release dates were set. The discrepancy between information releases matched the release date difference.
 
Soriku said:
How were P4 Arena and SMT IV marketed considering their WW/close to WW releases? I don't remember.
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I remember around E3 that year it was a big blowout for Arena. But I don't remember too much since P4G was releasing that year too and I much just kept tabs on that.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
Good question, I hadn't actually thought of that. For P4A (which is a bit weird since that was an arcade game first):

1. [Japan] P4A console release announced on August 31, 2011 (for Summer 2012).
2. [NA] P4A console release announced on February 21, 2012 (for Summer 2012).
3. [Japan] P4A console release date announced on April 18, 2012.
4. [NA] P4A console release date announced on June 5, 2012.

Marketing for the console versions for both regions pretty much kicked off when the console release date was set, so April in Japan and at E3 for North America. I suppose that's about a 2-month delay, to then have the games release at around the same time.

I'd have to look into SMT IV; I guess I'll edit this post with a similar timeline.

1. [Japan] Game release announced on May 30, 2012.
2. [Japan] Release date set for May 23, 2012 on February 19, 2013.
3. [NA} Game release announced for Summer 2013 on April 2, 2013.
4. [NA] Release date set for July 16 on April 17, 2013.

Marketing really started in March 2013 in Japan, and in May 2013 for the English version, so a couple of weeks after the release dates were set. The discrepancy between information releases matched the release date difference.
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So basically I can see something similar happening with this game.
 
I wonder if Sony will finally get behind this game and maybe give them a spot at E3. It seems weird this is kind of a major exclusive for them and they haven't really talked it up. Maybe because the release date has been so fluid, who knows.
 
Lingitiz said:
I wonder if Sony will finally get behind this game and maybe give them a spot at E3. It seems weird this is kind of a major exclusive for them and they haven't really talked it up. Maybe because the release date has been so fluid, who knows.
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You can't really show it when Atlus doesn't want to give any footage. They spoke about it briefly at PSX in 2014, but again they didn't have any footage to show.
 
SolidSnakex said:
You can't really show it when Atlus doesn't want to give any footage. They spoke about it briefly at PSX in 2014, but again they didn't have any footage to show.
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Right. It's just funny since I mean if Sony came calling I'm sure they'd be able to produce something. Even really minor? It would be a huge spot for them especially if they want mainstream appeal. But Atlus is always going to be weird like that I suppose.

I'm curious to see how the western release goes with this. It's been on so many most anticipated lists, trailers and livestreams gather huge attention, etc. And yet the rollout of information is so very old school and strictly Japan focused despite this seeming like primetime for the series to truly breakout globally.
 
Lingitiz said:
I wonder if Sony will finally get behind this game and maybe give them a spot at E3. It seems weird this is kind of a major exclusive for them and they haven't really talked it up. Maybe because the release date has been so fluid, who knows.
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I don't think they will ever show new footage at a western event first. If there is anything new on the 5th, then maybe.
 
Lingitiz said:
I wonder if Sony will finally get behind this game and maybe give them a spot at E3. It seems weird this is kind of a major exclusive for them and they haven't really talked it up. Maybe because the release date has been so fluid, who knows.
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Yosp is looking forward to it the most out of anything this year
 
Lingitiz said:
I wonder if Sony will finally get behind this game and maybe give them a spot at E3. It seems weird this is kind of a major exclusive for them and they haven't really talked it up. Maybe because the release date has been so fluid, who knows.
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They probably wanted to do this last year. But Sony can't do anything if Atlus USA doesn't give them any marketing material to work with.
And Atlus USA doesn't have anything new because Atlus Japan won't give them any new marketing material for a western event when the game hasn't released in Japan yet.

Instead, expect Atlus USA to re-release a 7 month old trailer and call it the "Persona 5 E3 2016 trailer".
 
DrunkShogun said:
Sorry to go against you but I'm hoping for it to come out soon as possible. December is pretty poor for me but would rather stockpile on current release for December.
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I'd hope so too, but FFXV in September means the timeframe is pretty tight, plus SMTIV Apocalypse's localization is set for that month too.

The absolute best-case scenario is a worldwide launch in July or something, but I wouldn't be surprised if they hold off the NA version for a bit. December is the earliest time that's clear from FFXV and after the October/November rush.

Still though, let's hope for the best.
 
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