Nintendo has been making the same games since the 80s

When they try to do something new with their games, people whine that it's not like before. See Star Fox Zero.

When it's the exact same, well, it becomes the same old shit.

You can never win if you're Nintendo it seems. :lol
 
No, employees at Monolith Soft are Monolith Soft employees, not Nintendo employees.

That's like saying Marvel employees aren't Disney employees. Monolith is a company under Nintendo's umbrella. Where do you think Monolith is taking its funds to pay its workers from?
 
Well they're not developed by Nintendo, just published. But Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 are gameplay wise deeper than most games. Fight me
 
No, employees at Monolith Soft are Monolith Soft employees, not Nintendo employees.

Now try pulling this same argument with Retro Studios. I guess the latest Donkey Kong titles aren't Nintendo games! In fact, since Rare employees made the initial trilogy, the entire Donkey Kong Country series has never actually been a Nintendo franchise! Remove that blindfold from your eyes, people!

Come on, mate.
 

Comparing this to the projects funded (plus general 1st party variety) in previous gens would make too long of a list to bother, lol. Especially if you throw in something like 3 month exclusivity for Ninja Gaiden 3... Remember when they had the entire Resident Evil series locked?
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.

Different studios make different games. Retro make Metroid and Donkey Kong, EAD make Mario, Monster games made Excitetruck and Monolith Soft make Xenoblade. They are all Nintendo, this is a silly arguement.
 
They are part of Sony, just like Monolith is part of Nintendo, so your question doesn't make sense.

I see you don't want to answer that. Typical

I'm just joking of course, I just really like the "This Nintendo studio makes games Nintendo is unable to make" post
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.
It's not unfair, it's reality:

They are a subsidiary of Nintendo. Nintendo pays their checks and therefore it's employees.


Monolith Kyoto helped to develop Skyward Swords, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, it's not just Xenoblade.
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.
You're trying really hard to divorce Monolith Soft from Nintendo, but for what reason? To strengthen your argument?
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.

Well every Nintendo department has a different touch. See Intelligent Systems, Retro Studios, HAL Laboratories, Sakurai/Sora, etc. just like Rare and Silicon Knights did.
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.

Yes, they have their own philosophies and own style but they are Nintendo employees and have even helped with development for internal Nintendo studios.
 
If you look at all if their games from afar with an extremely vagymue idea of what each game entails in its mechanics than you would be right, and that could be applied to every single video game developer.
 
Better take out those bananas in the OP then, cos DK is made by Retro and it's unfair to lump them under Nintendo.

Forget about that, how about Silicon Knights, who made Eternal Darkness, a game he just made a post about how awesome it was and why Nintendo can't make a game like that no more. Guess they don't count as Nintendo either then.
 
Seeing how this thread is becoming the usual frontline with the same gaf casting I think my "no?" was enough. Everybody here knows where this "discussion" will go and now we're at the stage of the "is it really a 1rst party studio?" & "but new ips!".
Open world AAA action adventure with rpg elements is porn gaming. Mario is a love affair.
 
Very, very few games achieve strong narratives, and most that try fail miserably. Gameplay should always come first, and that's where Nintendo games shine.
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.

They are a studio with their own flair, yes. But the company is 100% owned by Nintendo. For all intents and purposes, Monolith Soft is Nintendo. Don't let the name fool you.

3 minutes ago I didn't know Monolith Soft was wholly owned by Nintendo, but a brief review of Wikipedia and even I can see you're on the wrong side of this. Take the L.
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.

You have no idea in how many of Nintendo products Monolith is involved nowadays.
 
It's unfair to lump Monolith Soft in as being Nintendo. They're owned by Nintendo, but they're still their own company which makes games with a Monolith Soft touch.

You're arguing semantics now to downplay the fact that Xenoblade is a Nintendo franchise because you like it.
 
Forget about that, how about Silicon Knights, who made Eternal Darkness, a game he just made a post about how awesome it was and why Nintendo can't make a game like that no more. Guess they don't count as Nintendo either then.

Silicon Knights? They actually totally don't count as Nintendo tho. They were never owned by them.
 
It only counts as Nintendo if Myamoto has worked on it.

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What's the difference between Nintendo developing or publishing games to appeal to different audiences. Heck even stuff like the Resident Evil exclusivity back in the GC days is a move to appeal to a different base even if it's not directly made by them. Sort of like how Sony is associated with MGS or how they have SFV on their exclusive catalogue.

I would if I could. Maybe a better example would be Paper Mario but...not the new ones.

Honestly this post made me realise I want more narrative driven games from Nintendo. The few they do put out are so good but then you have all the most recent RPG's where they're either gutting the story entirely or just trimming it down to the most basic thing. "There are two of everyone! ...and Bowser kidnaps Peach go save her and those generic toads". yawn.
Was just naming Mother 3 as the bestest story (but not necessarily the easiest to be driven by narrative). But it's mostly Miyamoto's school of design where story takes a complete back seat with the exception of Zelda and Starfox. But other teams really do work a lot better in that regard and value it a lot more. My biggest dissapointment is stuff like them losing Cing (despite the new Kyle Hyde successor clone).
 
It only counts as Nintendo if Myamoto has worked on it.

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So...Splatoon is not counted?

And even if we did only count Miyamoto involvement, Steel Diver is considered "the same game since the 80s"?

This whole thread is pretty stupid.
 
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