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Clinton is the most intelligent, experienced candidate running and her values are consistent with the majority of Americans, not to mention that Obama is a popular President and she is perceived to be a continuation of that direction. It does surprise me how easily this is either ignored or disregarded when attempting to dismiss her for some reason or another. The majority of the country wants to vote for those qualities, regardless of anything else.

Except you have almost three decades of sexist red meat thrown at Clinton so a lot of people ignore all of that and just think:
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I love how me posting a map of the primary results celebrating the candidate I support's win in a primary thread is a drive by attack to you inferring I should be banned.

HILarious

Lol it is beyond ridiculous. Especially when you have Hilary supporters posting things like Yassss queen after every win. Even though it is a foregone conclusion she's going to win the nomination. But Bernie supporters being happy? God forbid we should have that shit in these threads.
 
Makes up for the Dems having Super Deligates.
Both sides are anti-voter.

The supers have yet to override the pledged delegate count, and if they ever do they better have a damn good reason for it.
 
And the same people complaining about Bernie staying in now were complaining about Hilary staying in then.

This isn't people picking on your candidate of choice.

Hilary was/is not my candidate of choice. I voted for Bernie and I think it's time for him to bow out.

Why is it that people assume if you feel this way you must be a Hilary supporter? It's no longer "just about the message". It's trying to paint Hilary as a crook and corrupt. I don't think that is healthy at all. I think it goes against what he promised when he first started this campaign. It's what I admired and now he's thrown that away. Because I don't see him as a god I'm able to actual be critical of him.

If he had stayed on his message then I would have said continue onward, but it's not the case anymore. He's poisoning voters who Hilary has to bring over. With what we're up against on the right, we need all the help we can get.
 
You should get over it, man. I'm not the one struggling to accept an uncomfortable reality. The reality is that he's in it til the convention. Why? To spread his message.
Okay "man". Please learn how US politics work before you start lecturing me about this kind of thing. Bernie has already got out his message and going to the convention won't change the effectiveness of it. He's staying in for purely selfish reasons and he's fooling people like you. Politics can be a dirty business.
 
NOBODY is talking about this sacred message of yours.

Factually incorrect and that's fairly evident at face-value.

The fact that "BERNIE SANDERS IS A SOCIALIST AND SUPPORTS SINGLE PAYER HEALTHCARE" isn't a CNN headline is your argument? No fucking shit policy positions aren't breaking-news in April during a primary. What a shit argument.

Guy spends millions campaigning in states. You think no one notices that? You think that doesn't affect anything? You think it doesn't sway the opinions of current and future voters? Give me a break.

He's staying in for purely selfish reasons and he's fooling people like you. Politics can be a dirty business.

Yeah, man. I appreciate your baseless take on Bernie's motivations.

but prodigal, it's may now. this clearly invalidates your entire point and you are banished to the shadow realm

Oh shit.
 
Look at r/politics, r/s4p, any pro-bernie news or editorial blog, TYT...the list goes on

These are the places where Sander's support is it's most fervent. Anytime you hear about these places, or go to them, what do you see? Reddit is constantly plastered with anti-Hillary bullshit, scrutinizing her use of finances, raising suspicion of voter fraud, of voter suppression. TYT does nothing but sit around shitting on Hillary for hours on end.

In mainstream media, when they talk about the democratic primary, for weeks now, every story that gets traction has a negative slant. Bernie's supporters allege this, Bernie's campaign claims that.

NOBODY is talking about this sacred message of yours. Whether you hold the man responsible or not, his campaign has turned negative. He is not a message candidate anymore. His supporters will continue to attack Hillary regardless of what he says, and it will only weaken her.

This theoretical woman you talked about who is so uninformed because her primary hasn't happened yet; what do you think she will see once she starts paying attention?

She'll see a stubborn old man shouting about the same crap he has been for MONTHS now, and behind him his uncompromising zealots who do nothing but try and tear down the only candidate who has a chance at actually doing some good in this country.

It's funny: I remember a common one-liner pro-Hillary argument used to be "Vote for her so that we don't get Trump or some other GOP crazy in the White House." And posters would respond that that wasn't compelling, because you have to give people a message of hope, give them something positive they can rally behind, catch more flies with honey, etc. etc.

It's sad that Sanders' movement has turned into the anti-Clinton movement. It's sad that his great message has given way to endless fanatical mudslinging with no positive end goal or concern for reality. It's really is.
 
LOL which he won't. By a huge margin, christ.

Closed New Jersey by 13 points? Closed Kentucky by 35 points?

And a tie in DC? I have better odds of being struck by lightning twice then for Bernie to be within even 10 points in DC. He'll probably lose it by 30 or more.
 
Makes up for the Dems having Super Deligates.
Both sides are anti-voter.
I really wish people had a fucking clue about why Super Delegates actually exist.

Before Supers it was pretty common to have a contested convention, at which time the party power brokers would decide who they wanted in closed rooms and force that person on the party.

Super Delegates have ALWAYS sided with the leader coming out of the primary in near unison. While it makes an outright pre-convention win on pledge delegates alone very difficult it also ensures that the decision is ultimately made based upon the results of the primary process.

It is the exact opposite of anti-voter. It is the last firewall that ensures the will of the voters is recognized without political deal making at the convention to steal the nomination.
 
The supers have yet to override the pledged delegate count, and if they ever do they better have a damn good reason for it.

Yep.

Hard to call superdelegates an inherently un-Democratic aspect of the primary process when they have ALWAYS gone for the candidate that wins the pledged count.

If the pledged totals were flipped at this point, I'd bet everything I own that Bernie Sanders would have more superdelegates than Hillary Clinton.
 
And a tie in DC? I have better odds of being struck by lightning twice then for Bernie to be within even 10 points in DC. He'll probably lose it by 30 or more.

You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning twice and then winning the DC primary yourself, than Bernie does of winning.
 
Welp, so much for "I'l do everything I can to help Democrats defeat Donald Trump." Didn't realize that statement was conditional--Sanders has the perfect chance to put his money where his mouth is, and chose stubbornness and childishness ahead of the values and principles he claims to stand for since he knows continuing won't net him the nomination at this point anyway and thus, if stopping Trump is really as critical to him as he says it is, now would be the perfect chance to show that, but yet... Guess they never meant much to him after all. Sad.
 

Hmm I see they are doing the exact opposite of what they should do. Take that establishment. And Trump as Clinton is now forced to defend against the GOP nominee and someone who has no perceptible chance of becoming the nominee (and before we argue turning super delegates based off the will of the people, well, Hilary has higher popular votes than Sanders and even Trump).
 
Not true, he only needs to win California 65-35 as long as he hits all these remaining targets.

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Anybody who actually believes this is going to happen has to either be drunk as all shit or voting for the first time and completely oblivious to how any of this works.
 
Welp, so much for "I'l do everything I can to help Democrats defeat Donald Trump." Didn't realize that statement was conditional. Had to perfect chance to put his money where his mouth is, and chose stubbornness and childishness ahead of the values and principles he claims to stand for. Guess they never meant much to him after all. Sad.

Guy says from the beginning he'll run his campaign until the convention.

Continues that path.

Suddenly he's a child with no principles.
 
Factually incorrect and that's fairly evident at face-value.

The fact that "BERNIE SANDERS IS A SOCIALIST AND SUPPORTS SINGLE PAYER HEALTHCARE" isn't a CNN headline is your argument? No fucking shit policy positions aren't breaking-news in April during a primary. What a shit argument.

Guy spends millions campaigning in states. You think no one notices that? You think that doesn't affect anything? You think it doesn't sway the opinions of current and future voters? Give me a break.

Yeah, man. I appreciate your baseless take on Bernie's motivations.
IT IS MAY AND HE ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF HIS MESSAGE BY GOING TO THE CONVENTION BEING IN SECOND PLACE AKA BEING A LOSER

How hard is it to understand? It's futile for Bernie or Hillary for there to be convention drama while the GOP falls in line for Trump.
 
Clinton is the most intelligent, experienced candidate running and her values are consistent with the majority of Americans, not to mention that Obama is a popular President and she is perceived to be a continuation of that direction. It does surprise me how easily this is either ignored or disregarded when attempting to dismiss her for some reason or another. The majority of the country wants to vote for those qualities, regardless of anything else.

Did you forget about her being investigated by the FBI? If it was anyone else they would be in jail already.
 
It's funny: I remember a common one-liner pro-Hillary argument used to be "Vote for her so that we don't get Trump or some other GOP crazy in the White House." And posters would respond that you have to give people a message of hope, give them something positive they can rally behind, catch more flies with honey, etc. etc.

It's sad that Sanders' movement has turned into the anti-Clinton movement. It's sad that his great message has given way to endless fanatical mudslinging with no positive end goal or concern for reality. It's really is.

The thing is people *have* been saying that and you get hit with the "I don't have to pick the lesser of two evils" line.

People shouldn't have to coddle and baby people into voting. If they feel she would be better suited to continue of the path of progression better than Trump, they should vote for her. If they don't feel that way, then don't.

I resent that I have to beg people to help keep these maniacs out of office. As someone who supported Sanders, I feel like it's a no brainer.
 
Surprised you are still getting away with drive by posting.
Posting a relevant graphic in the thread isn't drive by posting. But attempting to police other's posting is backseat moderation. Given the amount of Yas Qweening and gloating done on the regular, the idea that there's something wrong with someone else celebrating a win is bizarre. If you can't handle people celebrating a win for their candidate, regardless of the larger context, maybe it's time to take a break.
 
Lol it is beyond ridiculous. Especially when you have Hilary supporters posting things like Yassss queen after every win. Even though it is a foregone conclusion she's going to win the nomination. But Bernie supporters being happy? God forbid we should have that shit in these threads.

The problem with posting that is, he still lost. He needed a bigger win to be on the path to getting the nomination. So posting that is just inciting other posters.

Every contest from here on out where he does not meet his needed projections is a loss, it's that simple.
 
CNN guy is struggling to show how Trump could win in November.

You have to come up with some Unicorn style scenarios for Trump to win.
 
Guy says from the beginning he'll run his campaign until the convention.

Continues that path.

Suddenly he's a child with no principles.

People expected either a contested convention or for Trump to only get the nomination after California. Now that Cruz is out, Trump is now ALREADY the nominee. Things changed!
 
Guy says from the beginning he'll run his campaign until the convention.

Continues that path.

Suddenly he's a child with no principles.

He has always been an ideologue more concerned with his message and his platform than actually doing something positive for this country. There was a narrow window when the two coincided and instead of building on that he got drunk on the chance he might get the nom, turning negative in the process but achieving even less after doing so.
 
Did you forget about her being investigated by the FBI? If it was anyone else they would be in jail already.

Also, let's not forget her role in Bill's administration, where her actions alone forced a sitting president to commit adultery.
 
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