May U.S. Primaries |OT| Glory to America
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So how's that superdelegate theory working for you, Bernie?
perfectchaos007
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Clearly the Establishment gave Guam delegates. They aren't even a state
googleplex
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Race was wrapped up a month ago.
DragonSworne
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Pretty much this. I wish Bernie would just end his campaign.
Bam Bam Baklava
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So let's just stick with 4-8 more years of the same thing we have now? Political stalemate? Either way, it's going to be a battle in the congress. THAT is the reality. At least Bernie's platform hopes to change all that. Even if it's detached. You can sit there with your defeatist attitude all you like. I'll stay trying
The only reason we have political stalemate is because the GOP has the House and Senate and a bunch of ideologues have taken over their party (sound familiar?) and stopped any kind of compromise from happening. You replace them with centrists dems and you get progress, it might not be leftist utopia progress but it would be infinitely better than what we have now.
Your post reeks of disingenuous deflection, you did nothing to address the FACT that centrist Dems are the only ones that will win swing districts in places like Arkansas and Texas, not to mention Senators that have to campaign in red states. If Sanders wants to apply a litmus test to who he thinks is worthy of his ideological purity, he's going to be facing a congress that's even more tilted towards the GOP because there's a lot of Democrats in there right now that won't win where they have to campaign by going hard left.
Bubblicious
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Just means this image will need to be updated to show the new targets.
Which of the upcoming contests are favorable to the Queen? I assume WV and OR will go to Sanders but can she win KY, PR and/or NJ? Is CA a looking like a close win or is it a toss-up?
Kentucky's possible, Puerto Rico is favorable (as are the Virgin Islands), New Jersey is pretty much guaranteed, and DC IS guaranteed. California and New Mexico are also favorable.
Though, of course, Sanders could win every single one and still lose because those margins needed are impossible.
Good guide, using that pic, the higher the expected win for Sanders the more likely he is to win. I'd say anything 45+ on that pic Sanders will win, anything sub 35 Hillary has in the bag.
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Grover Cleveland
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THE ESTABLISHMENT making up rules as they go smh
PhoncipleBone
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This has been all over my FB from people going, "Go, Bernie, go!"
http://usuncut.com/politics/maine-democratic-party-just-got-rid-superdelegate-system/
So Clinton loses one delegate, and Bernie gains one. Okay. Great victory.
This is more important long term, but means nothing to help Bernie.
http://usuncut.com/politics/maine-democratic-party-just-got-rid-superdelegate-system/
So Clinton loses one delegate, and Bernie gains one. Okay. Great victory.
This is more important long term, but means nothing to help Bernie.
Krauser Kat
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That is fucking hilarious.
soundscream
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They're utterly deluded, I can't believe that anyone who thinks Bernie has a chance is sound of mind. The supers are not switching, they have no reason (no, GE polls this far out are not a reason).
And he isn't winning enough, nearly enough pledged delegates going forward.
So let me see if I understand this...
The argument is that because she isn't going to have enough pledged delegates to win the nomination outright, that this will go to a contested convention??
Who comes up with this shit? Are they 12?
Pretty sure I've heard one of Bernie's campaign managers say this exact thing, if not Bernie himself
You know, I was beginning to wonder if he had lost it completely.
His 'strategy' of attacking the DNC, attacking Hillary, *suing* the DNC, and accusing them of disenfranchising voters only to kindly ask superdelegates to switch their vote was already a ridiculous plan- But now I think he's lost his goddamn mind.
Dash_Riprock
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I just think he believes his own propaganda at this point.
He does. He's been insisting for a while now that there will be a contested convention, even though that obviously won't be happening.
I can't tell...it looks like a joke, but takes itself seriously...
At this point? Barney Frank called out Bernie Sanders on being an unproductive ideologue within Sanders' first few months as a congressman.
This is Bernie Sanders. He's a professional protester and politician, not a great mind or revolutionary. His rhetoric has just happened to find new life with thanks to the same low information populist sentiment that has empowered Trump. The fact that Sanders is coming in second to Trump at riding that wave is especially telling.
I like how they say Hillary needs to get to 2383 (this is over 50% with supers), but then they say Bernie only needs to reach 2026 (over 50% without supers).
Yea Bernie only needs 611 delegates to cross the line (without supers counted), but they don't tell you Hillary only needs 321.
I think this has to be some sort of joke or parody.
Holy shit, that font.
I'll read the website when it's not written for 4 year olds.
perfectchaos007
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So what does the Bernie math look like tonight? He needs to win West Virginia by 50 points?
PhoncipleBone
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It's a red state so it doesn't count.
Ooooh, bern
Ideally he gets 100% in the state so he can grab all the delegates, but obviously that's not plausible. Bernie won't need to win by 50 points, but it would be ideal to have a high margin so he needs to win by less in later states.
davepoobond
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Among the people Bernie wins with, he is winning by 100%
Demigod Mac
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And here we go...
Whoops... Should've vetted those delegates more carefully!
FYI: Mother Jones started Romney's 47% scandal in the 2012 election.
Whoops... Should've vetted those delegates more carefully!
FYI: Mother Jones started Romney's 47% scandal in the 2012 election.
Benjamin_MFF
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With the election coming up, I was curious if anyone here has been a poll worker before, primaries and elections. what was it like?
I did, a few times. All I remember was being surrounded by old people (and the money was nice).
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I really don't think this election can be 47%'ed again.
Jorok Goldblade
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Low information southern voters.
Agreed. Romney was far more of an unknown quantity to GE voters in 2012.
Part of that is his bombastic manipulation of media headlines, part of it seems to be the media obsession with constantly pushing election coverage further and further back each cycle so they can begin the next horse race like, right after the previous inauguration.
She lost the primary.
PhoncipleBone
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She lost WV in 2008, and Obama lost it in the general election. So it will probably go Trump in the end anyways.
But, I am already seeing all the crazy Bernie supporters I know on Facebook post about his win. They are already forgetting the fact that they pointed out to me that Hillary winning Southern states means nothing since they will go red anyways. Funny how their tune changes when their candidate wins.
Racism in case you're wondering, lol. WV choice of preferred candidate goes white dude->white lady- minority candidate. West Virginia is conservative as fuck, and has unlike many Southern states, many Dems are more conservative than average too.
A convict won 41% of the 2012 primary vote, lol.
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
I don't believe this goes into effect until the next election cycle.
PhoncipleBone
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BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE!
It does make sense because they are feeling the math as opposed to seeing it.
DrForester
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Polls show he isn't doing damage by staying in. He wont win, but he has every right to go to the end.
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